Closet 2.0: Dialed in. Back with more PAR T5's, Sannies Genetics, Earth Juice, ++

AltarNation said:

I haven't decided yet really... I'd rather not do the tent because the noise is louder when the exhaust is running in the room with me... I've isolated the noise from the closet pretty well, would be a shame to introduce more noise now... on the other hand, I'm not entirely sure I have enough horizontal space to give the screen breathing room on the sides. I wan to make sure there's a good 5" clearance on each side so that I can get colas growing out the sides... I feel like, IF I can get the screens positioned correctly, it should be no sweat to fill the side screens and the top screens with the four plants...

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plus it feels so crampt (sp) in tents

AltarNation said:

Sweeeeet... I can't tell you how thrilled I'd be to just have a house where I can do work like that, haha. I'd be building up individual rooms and havin' a ball...

Have fun, haha. I'd be growing in a tent up in a bedroom while I'm working, but that's just me

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yeah im excited this old 2 car garage is a failed recording studio between teh kitchen and the new garage
the people who sold the house to me had a recording studio it was a maze of weird shaped rooms with noise damping materals on teh walls and no 90 deg angles at all little windows and tubes to feed the wires
so im goign to re sheet rock the whole thing and add a closet with extra spot for veg right infront of the 9x9 flower room that was teh drum room that way i have a better flowright now i ahve veg in upstair office bathroom its a floor of about 3x4 but i have to wait till kids are asleep and hope they dont come and see what im doing or wait til they are away to get from room a to room b
plus u never know when one of them go into the "maze of doors" to play hide and seek and scare teh crap out of you when your checking light temps etc

AltarNation said:

Milking my vape pen cartridges for all their worth, lol. I'm down to the last of the last working one. I still have one cartridge that doesn't work, full of oil! I don't know how I'm gonna get it out. On one end there's a very small hole and a little plug... I can pull that and could probably get some out with a pin or something, but would rather not have to pull it out drop by drop... I was thinking I could heat it and then maybe it will dribble out, but it's not going to really roar out like I want even if it's warm. Maybe I could puncture the tube near the top to let air in and then it'd pour out the bottom. Definitely needs to be nice and warm for that... and I need a nice little glass dish to catch it in...

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would love to try one of them

AltarNation said:

Milking my vape pen cartridges for all their worth, lol. I'm down to the last of the last working one. I still have one cartridge that doesn't work, full of oil! I don't know how I'm gonna get it out. On one end there's a very small hole and a little plug... I can pull that and could probably get some out with a pin or something, but would rather not have to pull it out drop by drop... I was thinking I could heat it and then maybe it will dribble out, but it's not going to really roar out like I want even if it's warm. Maybe I could puncture the tube near the top to let air in and then it'd pour out the bottom. Definitely needs to be nice and warm for that... and I need a nice little glass dish to catch it in...

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can you get a clean needle from diabetic? that might work

AltarNation said:

Don't have an electric skillet... have an electric stove so I could do it on there in theory, just didn't want to fill the house with iso fumes, heh. I had an electric burner in my camper I should have brought up with me when we moved here... could use that on the porch where I can let it fume out the windows easily...

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use candy theometer and heat pan of water put masen jar in water keep it at 170 the iso boils at 170 do it in teh masenjar and then pour into your vile might be able to also do in vile

only71 said:

use candy theometer and heat pan of water put masen jar in water keep it at 170 the iso boils at 170 do it in teh masenjar and then

pour into your vile might be able to also do in vile

can you get a clean needle from diabetic? that might work

would love to try one of them

yeah im excited this old 2 car garage is a failed recording studio between teh kitchen and the new garage
the people who sold the house to me had a recording studio it was a maze of weird shaped rooms with noise damping materals on teh walls and no 90 deg angles at all little windows and tubes to feed the wires

so im goign to re sheet rock the whole thing and add a closet with extra spot for veg right infront of the 9x9 flower room that was teh drum room that way i have a better flowright now i ahve veg in upstair office bathroom its a floor of about 3x4 but i have to wait till kids are asleep and hope they dont come and see what im doing or wait til they are away to get from room a to room b
plus u never know when one of them go into the "maze of doors" to play hide and seek and scare teh crap out of you when your checking light temps etc

plus it feels so crampt (sp) in tents

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condense my friend dont be rude think first then type.

Haha. That's an ironic statement in this thread Poly, this whole thread is like one run on sentence. no worries guys, it's all good, lol.

Sounds like an interesting set of quasi-roos you are working with Only. Sounds like a lot of fun to work with actually!! Wish I owned a house, lol.

Sorry guys, I will get some new pics soon. I'm not seeing "end of flowering swelling" yet, I'm probably going to let them go at least another week past the 7 point. But I do have to get in and feed today, will take some pics.

Actually i was glancing and I would say I do see some swelling on one of the jackberry plants at least. The one next to it still seems slim. Not sure about the one behind. Gonna go in and feed now, will bring my camera.

polyarcturus said:

condense my friend dont be rude think first then type.

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sorry if i was rude?

polyarcturus said:

condense my friend dont be rude think first then type.

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and this was several replys using teh ipad app from this forums and it sucks and totally fucked up like 6 post and made one that was insane when read together ok will not be using the app anymore wow

ok the app was fine you just didnt feel lik escrolling past several replys for several days of previous posts

and u said i was rude wow

if you can tell me how to delete my post i will

Okay I got some new pics. I've decided that my shorter-flowering plants all want less nitrogen overall than my others. I'm going to have to do a solid dose of N with next feeding for all the kolossus and the anesthesia. They are yellowing like the dickens. It's got to be N. The jackberries were burning with the N while the kolossus and anethesia's have been suffering for lack. I think that's what's been going on. I am finally convinced to stop using one nute mix for all my plants when I grow multi-strain, heh. Luckily my next batch is going to be all rasp. cough together, that will be a lot easier.

Hmm, what else. Well... i got my new little bong I ordered off grasscity.com... it's got a simple diffuser and I got an extract bowl for it. Little did I know that the bong was so cheap because it doesn't have a real down stem, lol. It has a down stem and bowl in one, unfortunately, so now I can't have a downstem with the replacement bowl unless I rig somethin' to the bottom of it or something. Probably won't bother... I gave it a test drive hitting it "dry" with just the diffuser for a little bubbling and I got a fat hit of some nice wax my buddy out in Cali sent me.

I'm using my DBV vaporizer modified... took the glass off and am using the rest of it as a soldering iron or herb iron, basically. Worked surprisingly well, except for the one problem that the very tip of it doesn't seem to get quite as hot as the part just below. It still vaped pretty well, but I'm probably gonna look into a wide-tipped design or something for a soldering iron so that I can get more surface area directly on the extract.

Oh, and I went FLYYYYYING. Tolerance down for a week now, and I will tell you, I had a really good high. Really good. I spoke directly with God. That's how good. I had a one on one conversation with God for about fifteen minutes, I shit you not. I really needed this, it gave me the trip I was looking for. Got me real grounded. I feel real good about everything right now... and I've been down for a while, so it's not just the weed.

okay I gotta pee while these pics import... will be back in a few with pics!

Order's a little hap-hazard... sorry, don't have time to organize right this moment... enjoy!:


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Your Grow continues to impress..

Thanks man. I am glad to get some positive feedback on these for sure. Everyone seems to be giving a lot of thumbs up but I am totally not satisfied, hahaha. I guess that's how it goes sometimes. I am learning a lot each round, and have yet to have a round that I would say are truly staying nutrient-balanced and healthy right to the end. These included.

The jackberries are doing pretty well, but all three other strains have shown a lot of wear and tear... I am looking forward to starting over yet again, because I'm sure I'm off-track somewhere here and could have gotten a lot more bud for the wattage I've got going. Maybe I'm wrong and it's more than it looks like... or maybe the buds will be a lot denser than before because of the extra light, but it just doesn't look like 1000w worth of bud to me. I really expected more. But maybe it's the tiny footprint not doing me any favors.

looks dense like some dense ass nugs.


what was the soil mix/feeding schedule this round?

also putting kolossus on my to get strain list.

AltarNation said:

Thanks man. I am glad to get some positive feedback on these for sure. Everyone seems to be giving a lot of thumbs up but I am totally not satisfied, hahaha. I guess that's how it goes sometimes. I am learning a lot each round, and have yet to have a round that I would say are truly staying nutrient-balanced and healthy right to the end. These included.

The jackberries are doing pretty well, but all three other strains have shown a lot of wear and tear... I am looking forward to starting over yet again, because I'm sure I'm off-track somewhere here and could have gotten a lot more bud for the wattage I've got going. Maybe I'm wrong and it's more than it looks like... or maybe the buds will be a lot denser than before because of the extra light, but it just doesn't look like 1000w worth of bud to me. I really expected more. But maybe it's the tiny footprint not doing me any favors.

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Sounds like the result of chasing greatness bro! I hope you find that sooner than later!
i like to think I'm in pursuit of the same thing...So when everyone else is satisfied but you're not, you'll continue to work and push for new answers and results!
shit I wish I had a setup to work with like yours.....as close to complete lighting as it gets, given your sides and bottoms are well lit!
looking good bro! I read a lot recently that more tops aren't always better...ESP if they won't produce like the main colas, so maybe look into mainlining, or topping to get 4-8 dominant colas..I'm def head in that direction at this harvest, just to take advantage of the space restrictions ya know?, good luck bra. You got it

polyarcturus said:

looks dense like some dense ass nugs.


what was the soil mix/feeding schedule this round?

also putting kolossus on my to get strain list.

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Yeah Kolossus is a sick strain... so hairy... and them buds are pretty big so far, compared to the others. It will be interesting to see how they finish out.

The soil mix and feeding schedule were poorly managed as usual, LOL. The soil mix is basically LC's soilless mix basics (5:3:2 Peat/Perlite/Worm Castings, plus 2 TBSP dolomitic per gal.) but I put extra worm castings in towards the bottom, which I think wasn't a good idea, haha. I thought it would pay off by giving extra nitrogen late in life, but I think it just fucked with the ph balance of the bottom of each pot and added to my headaches. I'm done with trying to cover nutes in soil, I'm probably going to stick to adding nutes, and maybe even strip back to a truly nutrient-less mix after the next run.

Soil's already mixed for the rasp coughs, it'll be the 5:3:2:dolomite combo again, but pure this time, no extra additives at the bottom. Hope that helps keep things more balanced and easier to manage.

As for the feeding schedule, jeez, it was a mess. And I didn't track it too well either. I'm going to be much more careful in the future to taper up slowly, for one thing. I think I brought it on too fast, and too late. I didn't start adding any N at all until very late in veg, and I think that I am hurting for it now, as my longer-running strains are both very yellowed up for where they're at.

I also feel that I really did myself a disservice by mixing the same nute batch for all the strains instead of selectively adjusting for each strain!

Sincerely420 said:

Sounds like the result of chasing greatness bro! I hope you find that sooner than later!
i like to think I'm in pursuit of the same thing...So when everyone else is satisfied but you're not, you'll continue to work and push for new answers and results!
shit I wish I had a setup to work with like yours.....as close to complete lighting as it gets, given your sides and bottoms are well lit!
looking good bro! I read a lot recently that more tops aren't always better...ESP if they won't produce like the main colas, so maybe look into mainlining, or topping to get 4-8 dominant colas..I'm def head in that direction at this harvest, just to take advantage of the space restrictions ya know?, good luck bra. You got it

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Thanks man, you are absolutely right, chasing greatness. I will not be satisfied until i am growing crazy donkey dicks all over, lol.

I am liking your ideas of topping. I stuck to FIM in the past because it seemed less wasteful to me, not losing much of any established growth. But it does encourage side-branching like a motherfucker, somewhat to the plant's detriment, too many colas perhaps, like you said. If there's going to be so many colas I need a longer veg. time to accommodate the extra growth on each cola that is needed to establish a decent amount of nodes.

But yeah... I dunno, I always worry about being able to maximize the light exposure if I don't do a lot of colas! My plan for this next run is to stick with lots of colas, but to SCROG them to make sure the light surface area is all utilized. I will be vegging for two months solid this time, too, so hopefully there will be enough time developmentally to utilize the extra branching effectively.

I am planning to start with a mainlining arrangement on each plant to maximize distribution of colas widely, since there will only be 3 plants instead of a whopping 7 that I had to squeeze in there this time. But I am going to encourage a lot of extra branching still, because I have a lot of screen to fill up and only 3 plants to do it with.

I like the way you're thinking though. If I had 7 plants again this run, I would absolutely try to limit the colas to no more than 4-6 per plant.

And I'm thinking I am going to take a shot at topping this time, because I want to take clones during veg. instead of waiting til flower next time. My monster-cropped clones still haven't rooted, and I don't have super high hopes for them. So I will probably do some topping to get the mainlining going, and get clones of all three plants going to assure I can keep the strain going after the fact if I so choose. At this rate I probably lost my strains, save for Kolossus which I still have some seeds for.