Club 315w lec

since1991

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Yup i think the overlap would have better results than only one lamp as I have tried out. I've been considering 630 DE CMH but leaning more toward 1k DE HPS as I can also confirm those thouies are go to for production. But Im in no rush to invest lol
I run 8 x Gavita 6/750's in my main flower room. If i monocrop a production cut of a high yield og variant (diamond) or my Santa Cruz Blue Dream I can hit 16 to 18 pounds trimmed dried and cured SOLID buds a run on the 750 watt setting for each lamp. It was way more difficult to hit that back in the day with 8x 1000 watt single ended hps fixtures. Alot more work and attention to detail. The most minor of hicupps and i would see it in the bottom line. Anyways...I highly doubt 15 or even 20 315 watt cmh lamps crammed together would touch them numbers. Granted..the power is way less so there is that..but at 400 plus dollars a fixture...iam gonna wait a few and see how the double ended cmh lamps play out before I pull the trigger. Iam all for a less power bill like everyone else bit there are other factors to consider. One thing is certain...If i do buy a bunch of them...they will be used with hps lamps together.
 

augusto1

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I run 8 x Gavita 6/750's in my main flower room. If i monocrop a production cut of a high yield og variant (diamond) or my Santa Cruz Blue Dream I can hit 16 to 18 pounds trimmed dried and cured SOLID buds a run on the 750 watt setting for each lamp. It was way more difficult to hit that back in the day with 8x 1000 watt single ended hps fixtures. Alot more work and attention to detail. The most minor of hicupps and i would see it in the bottom line. Anyways...I highly doubt 15 or even 20 315 watt cmh lamps crammed together would touch them numbers. Granted..the power is way less so there is that..but at 400 plus dollars a fixture...iam gonna wait a few and see how the double ended cmh lamps play out before I pull the trigger. Iam all for a less power bill like everyone else bit there are other factors to consider. One thing is certain...If i do buy a bunch of them...they will be used with hps lamps together.
What is the size of the room that you have the 8 Gavitas 6/750 and with how many plants are you getting 16 to 18 pounds?, thanks in advance.
 

since1991

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What is the size of the room that you have the 8 Gavitas 6/750 and with how many plants are you getting 16 to 18 pounds?, thanks in advance.
The room is 14 x 22. But the lights are 4 to a side (4x 16 of canopy every 4 lamps - each lamp covering 4x4 with a two tiered net trellis) with a 2 foot aisle down the middle. 2 feet of walkway down the wall ends. 2 feet in back. And about 4 or 5 feet soon as you open the door for shelving. Santa fe dehuey and tools..brooms..pedestal fans. Carbon scrubber with inline etc. I also have wall mount fans 3 to a side. 15 inchers mounted on the side walls. My mitsu split blower is mounted up at the far end. I try to pack 4 to 6 plants under each 4x4 sometimes more but no less than 4 plants. I run a perpetual more or less of several strains. Something always coming and going. If i get real focused I try and run each side a month to 5 weeks apart. I also have another room next to this one running 4x 1000 watt single ended hps lamps. I try and run this in the cooler months. Its not always cranking like the Gavita room. I have several cultivars in the stable including the usual suspects like Dream...Glue...Og variants...plus a bunch of Sin City Seeds gear and a few others.
 

since1991

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The room is 14 x 22. But the lights are 4 to a side (4x 16 of canopy every 4 lamps - each lamp covering 4x4 with a two tiered net trellis) with a 2 foot aisle down the middle. 2 feet of walkway down the wall ends. 2 feet in back. And about 4 or 5 feet soon as you open the door for shelving. Santa fe dehuey and tools..brooms..pedestal fans. Carbon scrubber with inline etc. I also have wall mount fans 3 to a side. 15 inchers mounted on the side walls. My mitsu split blower is mounted up at the far end. I try to pack 4 to 6 plants under each 4x4 sometimes more but no less than 4 plants. I run a perpetual more or less of several strains. Something always coming and going. If i get real focused I try and run each side a month to 5 weeks apart. I also have another room next to this one running 4x 1000 watt single ended hps lamps. I try and run this in the cooler months. Its not always cranking like the Gavita room. I have several cultivars in the stable including the usual suspects like Dream...Glue...Og variants...plus a bunch of Sin City Seeds gear and a few others.
Iam dealing with a short clearance Michigan basement. So i need every inch i can get. But i would like to ditch all the walk ways...reposition the lamps all together for maximum overlap (and a definite increase in yield from it) by using short as hell run off tables mounted on caster roll around wheels to get to the canopy for maintenance and working. But i tried that and iam losing height so I have to settle for traditional production rooms with walkways to get to the plants. But a buddy has a similar setup with an 8 foot tall basement and does the table/frame with wheels and has all the lamps and canopy bunched together and really bangs out the numbers with weight. If he has to get to a certain spot in the garden...he just rolls a section out the way for working...then rolls it back. Sweet. And I wish I could do the same. Having no walkways and all the light together really increases final weight.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Iam dealing with a short clearance Michigan basement. So i need every inch i can get. But i would like to ditch all the walk ways...reposition the lamps all together for maximum overlap (and a definite increase in yield from it) by using short as hell run off tables mounted on caster roll around wheels to get to the canopy for maintenance and working. But i tried that and iam losing height so I have to settle for traditional production rooms with walkways to get to the plants. But a buddy has a similar setup with an 8 foot tall basement and does the table/frame with wheels and has all the lamps and canopy bunched together and really bangs out the numbers with weight. If he has to get to a certain spot in the garden...he just rolls a section out the way for working...then rolls it back. Sweet. And I wish I could do the same. Having no walkways and all the light together really increases final weight.

I have only 6'4" to the old beams in the ceiling of my basement. I struggle with how to finally set up down there like you.

Even in the spare bedroom upstairs in my old converted cabin house I don't even have 7 feet.

So I use single ended 600's and Grow 30" bushes max and try to bud them down to bottom.

I am trying to add the 315 in between to increase quality and yield in the same space.
 

since1991

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I have only 6'4" to the old beams in the ceiling of my basement. I struggle with how to finally set up down there like you.

Even in the spare bedroom upstairs in my old converted cabin house I don't even have 7 feet.

So I use single ended 600's and Grow 30" bushes max and try to bud them down to bottom.

I am trying to add the 315 in between to increase quality and yield in the same space.
Are you running drain to waste drip setup in pots? Cuz if you are i can tell ya how to get the lowest clearance possible and still get that waste water out and away without running tables or shop vac (PAIN IN THEE ASS) saucers automated with the least amount of work.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Are you running drain to waste drip setup in pots? Cuz if you are i can tell ya how to get the lowest clearance possible and still get that waste water out and away without running tables or shop vac (PAIN IN THEE ASS) saucers automated with the least amount of work.
Actually I run a plant staggered every 10 days or so and harvest around the same to stay in plant and meds on hand counts. So all the plants are different sizes and stages. All different strains from seed usually.

I hand water and mix nutes individually for each plant for best results and even monitor their runoff and keep a log.

Not a very high yielding technique I know. And very time consuming. But variety and quality are outstanding.

I have been getting a pound to 22 oz per month with 2 600's and 250 watts of fluorescent in veg.

I ran the 315 as a 3rd area over the winter but it got too hot the way I had it set up in the little room in summer.

I have a ventilation plan now and really liked the mixed spectrum with the 315 added to the Hortilux super hps so 2 600's and 1 315 in the middle over a 3.5' x 7' area should up my output by bulking up my 8 little bushes more.

Here is one with the leaves stripped for harvest to give you an idea.

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And a pic with the 2 600's.

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I am thinking of either hanging the Phillips 315 in between and just below the glass of the reflectors or fitting the sun system remote reflector in the middle. Which means I have to relocate all my inline fans for space on the light stand I built.

There are only 6 plants at the time of this pic. Usually 8 are present.
 

since1991

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Actually I run a plant staggered every 10 days or so and harvest around the same to stay in plant and meds on hand counts. So all the plants are different sizes and stages. All different strains from seed usually.

I hand water and mix nutes individually for each plant for best results and even monitor their runoff and keep a log.

Not a very high yielding technique I know. And very time consuming. But variety and quality are outstanding.

I have been getting a pound to 22 oz per month with 2 600's and 250 watts of fluorescent in veg.

I ran the 315 as a 3rd area over the winter but it got too hot the way I had it set up in the little room in summer.

I have a ventilation plan now and really liked the mixed spectrum with the 315 added to the Hortilux super hps so 2 600's and 1 315 in the middle over a 3.5' x 7' area should up my output by bulking up my 8 little bushes more.

Here is one with the leaves stripped for harvest to give you an idea.

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And a pic with the 2 600's.

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I am thinking of either hanging the Phillips 315 in between and just below the glass of the reflectors or fitting the sun system remote reflector in the middle. Which means I have to relocate all my inline fans for space on the light stand I built.

There are only 6 plants at the time of this pic. Usually 8 are present.
If yer getting 22 zippers per month on 2 sixers on a perpetual staggered...your shit is on point. Period. Damn all the extras...thats just work and how a grower approaches said work. Not many can nail almost 3 units every 60 days with 1200 watts of hps. Good job.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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If yer getting 22 zippers per month on 2 sixers on a perpetual staggered...your shit is on point. Period. Damn all the extras...thats just work and how a grower approaches said work. Not many can nail almost 3 units every 60 days with 1200 watts of hps. Good job.
Thank you. It took a lot of practice. And you're right. It's a lot of work.
 

ttystikk

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If yer getting 22 zippers per month on 2 sixers on a perpetual staggered...your shit is on point. Period. Damn all the extras...thats just work and how a grower approaches said work. Not many can nail almost 3 units every 60 days with 1200 watts of hps. Good job.
I think it's a total of 2400W but still nothing to complain about.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I think it's a total of 2400W but still nothing to complain about.

I have never had 2400 watts including veg and even the air conditioner I use in summer.

2 600's in flower room. (May add back the 315)

10 24 watt 2 foot t-5 tubes in veg tent.

I had added a 315 and a 3x3 area during winter to the flower room. But I had 4-5 plants per month production then. Not the 3 plants per month I get the 16-22 oz dry nugs with.

There is also a 1/4 pound of leaf trim and loose buds each month for edibles and concentrates not included above.

My journal posted at rm3 dot com showed these results documented clearly.

Thanks for your input. Although incorrect.
 

ttystikk

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View attachment 4000678 does anyone know if these can be hooked up to operate 120volts when they say 240volts or do they come in 120volts with 8 outlets
You don't want to get one with 8 outlets on 120 volts, bro.

Here's why; someone will want to plug 8 x 1000W into it, which at 120V is 67 amps! That's a recipe for disaster.

Better to run the same 8000W load on 240V and half the amps, plus some headroom for safety, that's why they come in 240V and 40A max draw.

I have several of those very units from Titan Controls, the Helios 8, and they're affordable and robust.

If you absolutely must pull that many watts at 120V then you really need a 40A sub panel with 240V in and lots of separately fused 120V plugs, evenly split between the two legs of your 240V service.

Since you're asking this question, I strongly recommend you find a qualified electrician to help you design and install your power, so you don't fry some wires and burn your place down. Seriously.
 

Mr.jojodancer305

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@ttys I bought a titan light controller box that's a 4 plug 240 volts for my lights...2 315lec and 2 600 watt hps. I was thinking about another titan for my air pumps,water pumps, a.c., exhaust ran and co2. All input is needed and wanted my friend
 

ttystikk

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@ttys I bought a titan light controller box that's a 4 plug 240 volts for my lights...2 315lec and 2 600 watt hps. I was thinking about another titan for my air pumps,water pumps, a.c., exhaust ran and co2. All input is needed and wanted my friend
Ok so low wattage stuff, then. Get a circuit breaker protected power strip and put everything except the AC unit on it. Pumps, fans and the CO2 relay won't draw much juice.

How big is your AC unit in terms of output and power draw?
 
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