Club 315w lec

gr865

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That post was for thccbdhealth, he said that the Nanolux would not restrike after power outage. I would like to find out where he got his info.
 

thccbdhealth

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That post was for thccbdhealth, he said that the Nanolux would not restrike after power outage. I would like to find out where he got his info.
Personal experience and speaking with nanolux.
it will try to fire the bulb, but there is not an internal delay timer, nor does it not try to fire a still warm bulb.
it will try to ignite 10 times, and if the power was interrupted shortly the bulb hasn't had enough time to cool while those 10 false ignitions take place.

Mine will not reilluminate untill I unplug the ballast from the wall, and replying it in, after power has been temporarily interrupted via service provider.

I also spoke with hydro builder who told me both galaxy and phantom ballasts do have an auto restrike timer and would eliminate this issue.
however they will not ship to me..
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Personal experience and speaking with nanolux.
it will try to fire the bulb, but there is not an internal delay timer, nor does it not try to fire a still warm bulb.
it will try to ignite 10 times, and if the power was interrupted shortly the bulb hasn't had enough time to cool while those 10 false ignitions take place.

Mine will not reilluminate untill I unplug the ballast from the wall, and replying it in, after power has been temporarily interrupted via service provider.

I also spoke with hydro builder who told me both galaxy and phantom ballasts do have an auto restrike timer and would eliminate this issue.
however they will not ship to me..

I had not heard what you just said about Galaxy. I thought only the phantom was advertising re-strike.

I wonder if you use a light controller with its own shutoff circuit and fuse if yours would simply count down the waiting re start period and come back on with the controller?

I didn’t see the restrike feature on the galaxy paperwork. The Grow amps I have from them both have “soft restart”.
 

gr865

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Personal experience and speaking with nanolux.
it will try to fire the bulb, but there is not an internal delay timer, nor does it not try to fire a still warm bulb.
it will try to ignite 10 times, and if the power was interrupted shortly the bulb hasn't had enough time to cool while those 10 false ignitions take place.

Mine will not reilluminate untill I unplug the ballast from the wall, and replying it in, after power has been temporarily interrupted via service provider.

I also spoke with hydro builder who told me both galaxy and phantom ballasts do have an auto restrike timer and would eliminate this issue.
however they will not ship to me..
So, Nanolux tells me one thing and they tell you another. That is interesting shit, I will call them again tomorrow and address this. I hate being lied too, and I hope you are wrong. I have not had this issue with either of my NC's.
I know nothing about the Galaxy 315, except I have a 400W ballast (MH & HPS) that I used previously that work well.
Know nothing of the Phantom.
 

Bad Karma

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I also spoke with hydro builder who told me both galaxy and phantom ballasts do have an auto restrike timer and would eliminate this issue.
He was half right, a Phantom CMH will reignite after cool down, a Galaxy CMH will not. I own both and the auto restrike topic has been well discussed during the course of this thread. I've spoken to Growers House where I purchased the Galaxy CMH ballast at, and to Galaxy themselves, and that ballast is NOT designed to restrike at all.
 

gr865

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He was half right, a Phantom CMH will reignite after cool down, a Galaxy CMH will not. I own both and the auto restrike topic has been well discussed during the course of this thread. I've spoken to Growers House where I purchased the Galaxy CMH ballast at, and to Galaxy themselves, and that ballast is NOT designed to restrike at all.
That is what I was told by Nanolux, will reignite after cool down.
I am not a lighting person, but I know that this light works for me. I have had no issue's as of yet.
 

thccbdhealth

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He was half right, a Phantom CMH will reignite after cool down, a Galaxy CMH will not. I own both and the auto restrike topic has been well discussed during the course of this thread. I've spoken to Growers House where I purchased the Galaxy CMH ballast at, and to Galaxy themselves, and that ballast is NOT designed to restrike at all.
Thats what i had read and the reason for the phone call, phantom ballast isn't a typical hid cord socket.... and the galaxy is...
Seams as if i should grab a phantom for the secound ballast and a titan 15 minute delay timer for the nanolux.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Thats what i had read and the reason for the phone call, phantom ballast isn't a typical hid cord socket.... and the galaxy is...
Seams as if i should grab a phantom for the secound ballast and a titan 15 minute delay timer for the nanolux.

Hydrofarm lamps have a different ballast plug than the rest of the industry. It’s on all their hid’s

There is an adapter to make a Hydrofarm reflector fit a non Hydrofarm ballast.
 

ISK

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Thanks everyone for your feedback on the Phantom 315 CMh.....although not everyone has a positive experience with this product, I still made the purchase today from my local hydro store for $540 CND ($420 USA) c/w hood, ballast, power cords and one 315W/930 Philips master greenpower bulb.

The instructions say "NOTE: for proper break-in on new lamps, we recommend that you run the ballast & lamp for at least 12 hours straight after initial startup. This will improve lamp life & performance.

A few questions:

1) I never heard of breaking-in a light bulb...it this a normal practice?

2) The instructions also say use at least a 15 AMP timer ....I only have a 13 AMP timer, is this a problem, considering the lamp only draws 3 amps

3) the grow store dude said to keep about 18 inches between the bulb and the top of the plant....this seems very high to me, as I keep my 600 watt HPS about 10 inches away....how much distance do you folks keep between a mature plant and a 315w CMh bulb

thanks
ISK

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Pmbreno

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20 inches has been perfect for me for light distance with 315s. On a side note in regards to the discussion about ballasts restriking or not, the ss with the built in ballast has the restrike feature. So I came in one day to a light being off and unplugged and plugged back in the lamp, luckily I was able to actually see the bulb so I immediately noticed the inside bulb go grey and the ceramic bulb turn completely black. This was after two years of use so it went its life expectancy but I did inspect the bulb before trying to refire and noticed nothing out of the ordinary.
 

Bad Karma

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Thanks everyone for your feedback on the Phantom 315 CMh.....although not everyone has a positive experience with this product, I still made the purchase today from my local hydro store for $540 CND ($420 USA) c/w hood, ballast, power cords and one 315W/930 Philips master greenpower bulb.

The instructions say "NOTE: for proper break-in on new lamps, we recommend that you run the ballast & lamp for at least 12 hours straight after initial startup. This will improve lamp life & performance.

A few questions:

1) I never heard of breaking-in a light bulb...it this a normal practice?

2) The instructions also say use at least a 15 AMP timer ....I only have a 13 AMP timer, is this a problem, considering the lamp only draws 3 amps

3) the grow store dude said to keep about 18 inches between the bulb and the top of the plant....this seems very high to me, as I keep my 600 watt HPS about 10 inches away....how much distance do you folks keep between a mature plant and a 315w CMh bulb

thanks
ISK

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1. Yes, for CMH bulbs this is normal, so follow the directions.

3. During veg I keep it around 2.5'-3' and in flower between 16"-20".

Enjoy your new lamp.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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@Carolina Dream'n you like the daisy chain?
How is the heat so close to the ceiling without a remote ballast ?
I do not daisy chain my lights together. Putting extra resistance and heat on your ballast never made any sense to me. Every light comes with its own cord for a reason. And light controllers are not expensive in anyway.

There is a 1-2 inch gap between lights and ceilings. They run cool enough that I don't worry about any fire hazards from overheating the ceiling.
 

NugHeuser

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anyone think a 630 cmh over a open 3x4 would be overkill? I have been heavily using LED and think these might be worth looking at. I just picked up a double ended 630w unit. Other then this thread, there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot on this subject matter.
I don't think that's overkill. I have one but I have several other lights crammed in on my canopy as well so technically mine covers probably 2.5 x 4 feet. I know of a couple people running one in a 5x5 tent and are happy. In an open space though I'd say it's solid for about 3x4.

This is for the growers choice 630. They have a smaller hood on theirs, I think it should be bigger but that's the coverage I see for this one.
 
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