Club 600

Joker209

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Just to kick things off, heres a list of items you need to build a DIY cloner.

1. A heavyduty black 12 gal storage tote. The size isnt That important. Just depends how many clones you want to poduce. Mine is a 12 galllon and i can produce 200 clones at a crack. And as few 1.

2. A dual port high output aquarium pump.

3. 4 12" airstones.

4. Foam root plugs. You can make your own out of foam building blocks, or anything flat and spongy.

And thats all there is to it. I put a drain spout on mine to change the H20 easier. All said and done you can build one for under $50.


Im sorry to report that this is the only cloner pic I have at the moment. As you can see its really a simple machine. The airpump is mounted to the side. the hoses fished through a few drilled holes and rest in the bottom of the tote where they are attached to 4 12" airstones. I was running the pump on a timer at first but have just let it run 24/7 with better results.

Thats really all there is to my magical clones. I fill the tote full of water to within 1" from the stems of the clones. I have found that rooting hormones are not needed but do help. I use rootone brand, just a light coating and put them in the cloner. Now depending on your strains I have had clones root in a little as 3 days and have had some take as long as 2 weeks. As long as they dont dry up they will root. I check the water level in mine every time I water my mothers, and change the water every 2 weeks. The water in the cloner will evaporate and leave the lil yins starving. So check daily or every other day. Thats it.

Now the only real hard part is cutting the holes for the root plugs. As I mentioned you want a HEAVY DUTY tote. And the reason is because the amont of water it takes to fill it up will bow out a cheapo tote and will let in light which will cause algae to grow and thats not any good for clones. This is also the reason for purchasing a black colored tote. I have been trying to find a shallower tote so not as much water is needed, but cant find one that suits my needs.

So the idea with "bubble cloning" is the air coming in through the pump and airstones create oxegenated water. When the bubbles burst on the waters surface they make a misting action to the stems of the cuttings. To take cuttings from a doner plant youll want to cut a clone that is about 4-6 inches tall. I take mine at about 6" in height. I strip all but the top 2 sets of leaves. Dip in water then in rootone. easy peasy. I have put as many as 300 clones on this unit at once and rooted 95% of them. A few will die off no matter what. But hey 95% is a good turn out. I have also been experimenting with adding a low dose of veg nutes to counter some of the yellowing which occurs just before the roots start popping. So far it seems to have helped. But im not endorsing this procedure just yet.

A more detailed version of this rant to come. As i said i deleted all my old pics last week or id be able to show yall step by step. Gimme a few days to gather some parts and ill build one documentry style. peace and hope this has helped for now. 1BMM
Nice set up man only problem I see with it is your pump location. If you were to ever have a power outage your pumps would probably fry. All and all though good system. You can check mine out here
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/348036-cloning-made-easy-1-2-a.html
and see that I only run a cheap $40 cloner :D
 

stelthy

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When I fire up the 600 damn! .. its so bright I'll post my light test pic, I am sure you all already realise how bright 600s are but coming from previously only growing with CFLs and LEDs I was suprized at just how much brighter MH and HPS actually is .. the plants will love it I can tell :) - STELTHY
 

Heads Up

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No, but it plays the best and tastiest high you can get from smoking.

Thanks for the links, you can't get it at half baked goods, only parts.
 

Heads Up

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Not entirely true, with decent genetics and tender love and care, that number is easy to hit. Remember my last Blue Kush run, 3 plants, 1 600w light, got 16oz3g and that was all buds, I had over 2 ounces of popcorn that I made bubble hash out of.
Integra, you are the exception to the rule. I would think two ounces a plant is more reasonable. Your yields are why I would nominate you for the golden grow award...with a few others on here.
 

1badmasonman

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Nice set up man only problem I see with it is your pump location. If you were to ever have a power outage your pumps would probably fry. All and all though good system. You can check mine out here
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/348036-cloning-made-easy-1-2-a.html
and see that I only run a cheap $40 cloner :D
Why indeed I will Joker. I never claimed to know all. Always down for a good read. Be right over And thanks for the link.

If I had a table grow going, integra's grow would be the one I compared mine too, in hopes of being that good. Those are some beautiful nugs.
I couldnt agree more. That is quite impressive Integra. Nice big buds everywhere...

1BMM outy
 

Integra21

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Integra, you are the exception to the rule. I would think two ounces a plant is more reasonable. Your yields are why I would nominate you for the golden grow award...with a few others on here.
Thanks. But I think everyone can hit those numbers with experience and the right strain. I know I can improve upon them because that last grow wasn't problem free, my co2 only worked for the first 3 weeks of the grow, and Blue Kush isnt a heavy yielder, more on the average to slightly lower side. So ones I get a nice heavy yielding strain its on, Im really hoping to hit the gpw.
If I had a table grow going, integra's grow would be the one I compared mine too, in hopes of being that good. Those are some beautiful nugs.
Thanks bro, they do look good just like all the other top notch herb that gets posted in here.
Why indeed I will Joker. I never claimed to know all. Always down for a good read. Be right over And thanks for the link.



I couldnt agree more. That is quite impressive Integra. Nice big buds everywhere...

1BMM outy
Thanks Mason. Yours are looking great. Cant wait till it gets cold out and you get your bubbles going.
 

DST

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Welcome home DST, glad to hear you had a good time.

Today I fimmed (hopefully) my plants that are three weeks old. I have two lemon skunks and one LA confidential that are two weeks old that did not get fimmed. I had to start a couple of beans late since all of the original ones didn't germinate. Generally I don't post pics of plants in veg, what's there to see?

On another topic, I'm looking to get a vaporizer. I don't want to spend the money for a volcano, I think they are overpriced. I'm looking for a forced air system that blows up a bag and can be passed around. I'm open to all suggestions so anyone who has what they consider a decent vaporizer, please share. Here's a picture of mine. If anyone knows where to get this vaporizer, let me know. I can't find it anywhere. It's a Digi-Vapor VP500
welcome home DST,glad you had a good time.
Welcome back DST. Glad your girls are still alive. Trip must have been a blast. Was it hard to find herb there?
Glad you are safe and sound, guess we won't have to try to raise bail!
(if it had been over a couple of hundred dollars, I'm afraid you might have to wait)
You've got to give a recap of your adventure.

:peace:
cof
Indeed my brothers. I will start a thread dedicated to cloning. Ughh I wish i hadnt erased all my pics from over the winter. I will just build another cloner and take pics as i go. Its so simple you guys wont believe it. Ill drop a link soon as i start the thread. And thanks for admiring my clones. It took me alot of trial and error before i got it down.



Welcome Cowboy. My purp strain is having that exact same circular leaves thingy going on. Its strange. It must be in the genes thats all i can figure. Looking hella good though bro.





Welcome home D. Glad you had a great trip. Hope your ladies pull through for ya bru. Looking forward to your updates.
Thanks all. Trip was awesome, will share some of the pics with you all in a bit. Got a zillion photos as you can imagine.....also a Giant vuvuzela, hahaha...

Think I'll pop out to my guerilla site today to see if anything is left. My girls seem a bit happier today...the clones we will need to wait and see!

Peace, DST
 

Don Gin and Ton

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welcome back to the 6 DST! fingers crossed on the outdoor. should be a good size by now.

trippy pics masonman like it haha fat nugs ftw

stelthy man that looks more like somethin out of a sci fi movie than a grow chamber. nice
 

Heads Up

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My one reflector gives me trouble getting a metal halide bulb into it. I bought a new bulb months ago when I was in flower mode. I tried to put it into the socket when I put my new babies under their big lights the other day but couldn't get the bulb in, I thought it was defective so I ordered another. Couldn't get that bulb in either.

So here's the question, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get a bulb into a socket that doesn't want to allow it to fit? They have the same base as my hps lamps but I can't get it into that one fixture but the hps lamps fit fine.

Any suggestions? I try putting it in when it's cold with no success. Is there some type of electrical lubricant I can put on the base of the bulb and into the socket?
 

Trollin

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Since my last post, i broke the door off my cupboard. ha clumsy me! and ive also covered the cupboard with white mylar.

when the light is on it can get to about 30 degrees C and 30% humidity. it normally sits at 40 Humidity :)
and when the lights are off it can drop to 10 degrees C with 80% humidity. it normally sits at 15 degrees C. Anyone have advice on that?

I was having problems with the fans and noise, so i wrapped it around an old shirt and 1 around a shopping bag. It has seemed to dull the noise a little :)
Ive also put my light on a chain to adjust to height to where ever i see fit :)

Also, how much do u think i will yield?

All positive and helpful comments and suggestions will be rep'd :) :hump:

Here are the pictures! Enjoy :)
 

Heads Up

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Here's what I see. That fan, it's gotta' go, or, use it at the bottom of your box for an intake fan. Get you a decent four inch inline fan instead of that duct booster fan you are using, and exhaust it out of your box, not into the top with the doors closed. You are going to cook your girls with your current set-up. I just did my first bag of some arjan's haze so I'm pretty blazed so bear with my rambling. I'm speaking for myself, nothing is written in stone and I''m no pro like some of the others on here...and ya'll know who you are, the golden growers...anyway I drift. Heat, it's a killer for our green friends. It will affect your plants in so many negative ways you'll have no idea what's going on. Bring in cooler air from the bottom, exhaust your hot air from the top and out of your box, and finally you need air movement inside of your grow space. A six inch oscillating fan would help, and get rid of that white sheeting, with a fan inside of your grow box it blows it all over the place. Just paint the inside of your box with two coats of the whitest white paint (flat or matte) you can find. Ceiling paint is extremely white and cheap. You don't need expensive paint, just a real white paint and two coats. You'll have no paper blowing around in there or seams coming lose and it's almost as reflective. Good luck.
 

Heads Up

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And who is the lovely person that came onto the six hundred and gave me some bad rep? I am formally protesting the charge.

Anyone else getting hit with it?
 

Trollin

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Here's what I see. That fan, it's gotta' go, or, use it at the bottom of your box for an intake fan. Get you a decent four inch inline fan instead of that duct booster fan you are using, and exhaust it out of your box, not into the top with the doors closed. You are going to cook your girls with your current set-up. I just did my first bag of some arjan's haze so I'm pretty blazed so bear with my rambling. I'm speaking for myself, nothing is written in stone and I''m no pro like some of the others on here...and ya'll know who you are, the golden growers...anyway I drift. Heat, it's a killer for our green friends. It will affect your plants in so many negative ways you'll have no idea what's going on. Bring in cooler air from the bottom, exhaust your hot air from the top and out of your box, and finally you need air movement inside of your grow space. A six inch oscillating fan would help, and get rid of that white sheeting, with a fan inside of your grow box it blows it all over the place. Just paint the inside of your box with two coats of the whitest white paint (flat or matte) you can find. Ceiling paint is extremely white and cheap. You don't need expensive paint, just a real white paint and two coats. You'll have no paper blowing around in there or seams coming lose and it's almost as reflective. Good luck.
I only just bought all those things, and cant afford to buy any more things. I know its bad to have it all in the box, but otherwise i will get light leaks? is that white paper that bad? I bought it from a hydro store and it doest wave around when my fans blow.

anyway, what you would sugest is that i drill a hold in the bottom side and put the intake fan at the botton. and have the out-take fan at the top on the side? So its getting fresh air. am i right?

+ rep for the feedback :)
 

Heads Up

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Correct. Fresh air in from the bottom and hot air out from the top. You can get a piece of duct and get that fan out of your grow space completely. That would cut down on the heat a bit. Put the fan outside of your box and run a piece of duct into the grow box instead of the fan being in there. Just make sure the fan on top is sucking out.

Thanks for the rep.
 

Trollin

Active Member
Correct. Fresh air in from the bottom and hot air out from the top. You can get a piece of duct and get that fan out of your grow space completely. That would cut down on the heat a bit. Put the fan outside of your box and run a piece of duct into the grow box instead of the fan being in there. Just make sure the fan on top is sucking out.

Thanks for the rep.
Its all good, you deserve the rep :)
Mind me, but im still newb and have no idea what you mean by

"You can get a piece of duct and get that fan out of your grow space completely" and "run a piece of duct into the grow box instead of the fan being in there. Just make sure the fan on top is sucking out."

Can you please explain in easy terms. haha >< :hug:
 
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