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curious old fart

curious old fart

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Ferdinand the Bull was grazing in the pasture when a new, young bull ran up to him and asked. "are you Ferdinand the Bull?" to which he replied "yes". The young bull then said, "Why don't we run down the hill and jump the fence and screw some of the cows?" Ferdinand looked at the young bull and said, "Why don't we walk down the hill, thru the gate and screw all of the cows?" imp. you remind me of the young bull. :peace: cof
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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hornedfrog2000 said:
You would need tons of clones, like 50 of the same plant, share the same reservoir, separate the lights, and then have a lab test the results. Then you would have to do it about another 10 times to see if it is consistent with other genetics, phenos, indica/sativa. An actual legitimate grow study like this would take a lot of time and effort to get actual conclusive results.
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That's what I was going to say, but I got long winded and you beat me to it.
;-)

Would be a waste of time for all involved to just run a party cup of a different strain each, all from seed and not clones from the same mother, using different soils, environments, etc..
The only thing we'd get from it is some buds grown in party cups, but there would be no useful info regarding the question at hand.

Is mH grown bud more potent?
I don't know.
How long is a string?
How deep is a hole?
How high is stoned to the bone?
;-)
I only mentioned that I was growing my current batch under mH from beginning to end because it's the only bulb I have right now, and I'm not going to buy another HPS until this bulb is ready to be changed out.
And I might not even do it then, if I'm satisfied with the results.
While you may not have done any grows under anything but an HPS bulb, many of us have run each to compare, and some, like DST's friend, run both types of bulbs at the same time.
And many of us experiment with our grows to see what's what.
I've only been growing for 6 years, and am still experimenting.
As for believing hype, most of us in the 600 don't fall for it.
We are skeptics with open minds, and we experiment to know for sure.

I saw nothing insulting in hornedfrog's post about the need for a large controlled experiment to have a better idea as to the efficacy of mh vs HPS. He was just stating the facts.
No need to be rude and insulting.
;-)
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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Anecdotally, whodat, I remember a run of your (I think) SB (or ?PxSB) when you tried to go for a horizontal 360 scrog a couple of years ago and ran them under an mH instead of an HPS and they were by far frostier than when run under HPS.
I remember they were so damn frosty that I jokingly accused you of sprinkling sugar on them before taking the pics.
;-)

edit:
or did you use dual bulbs for that one (mH & HPS together)? I could swear it was just mH, but then... I smoke a lot of the herb ;-)
 
budolskie

budolskie

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Well baked could be an early one, shite on tv as usual think the ps3 is coming in and a movie or back on shameless series
 
hornedfrog2000

hornedfrog2000

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Impman said:
Or like 25 people participating in a grow off. Not science but certainly good for bragging rights. Kinda like girls vs boys or shirts against skins. HPS vs MH. nothing to get mad about just a competition. you got picked last in sports, didn't you?
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I'm not mad friend. I'm just pointing out why your challenge is not very practical.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Scottyballs used a waterfarm and CMH to get great results (1lb). LordJin and FlowaMasta are getting monster yeilds with their MH/HPS systems. Good grower+good system+good genetics=Da Kine buds.

Better yet - stick a seed in the ground and let God do the work for you. I hear she grows the best plants :)






Cheers,
Mo
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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Who's panicking?
And how would you know if mH does or doesn't add crystals if you've never run one yourself?
You are not doing a good job of making your presumptions believable.
You are just coming across as someone who wants to argue about something that you have no practical knowledge of, and making challenges who's results will have no bearing on the real world.
In one breath you say you don't have resources for an experiment, and yet that is what you propose and are eager to participate in it, even though it would be a total sham of an experiment.
No one's arguing, either.
So far we are all only discussing.

Having done a whole bunch of Extrema for over a year (I'm small-time as I need to keep within legal limits regarding number of flowering plants at one time, so I've only grown about 40+ Extrema plants: 30 from seed and 10+ from clones), but, so far, I am seeing more trichomes running this batch of Extrema only under a mH than I did running it only under an HPS.
But I am only a few weeks into flowering and have 4 to 5 weeks to go before harvest, so time will tell as to frostiness, aroma and potency.

edit:
And, this is my first grow where I went 12/12 from start to finish, which means there is no real way for me to accurately compare this grow under mH with past grows using mH for veg & hps for flowering, or just HPS from start to finish.

There is much more to having fun in life than competition, unless the competition is with one's own self.
I challenge YOU to go buy a mH bulb with an enhanced spectrum (like the Eye Hortilux is an enhanced spectrum HPS), and see for yourself.
Document it thoroughly in text, photos and video, and show us your results.
While you're at it, run some under LED, and some under CmH, and some outdoors under the sun.
Until you do, you're just basing your statements on hearsay from others and anecdotal evidence of buds you seen, bought & smoked from dispensaries/clubs.
And you'll get more cow vagina by sauntering rather than charging, regardless of age.
;-)
;-)
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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Mohican said:
Scottyballs used a waterfarm and CMH to get great results (1lb). LordJin and FlowaMasta are getting monster yeilds with their MH/HPS systems. Good grower+good system+good genetics=Da Kine buds.

Better yet - stick a seed in the ground and let God do the work for you. I hear she grows the best plants :)






Cheers,
Mo
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I might have to consult my lawyer to see about suing for bodily injury, because every time I see one of your outdoor ladies my jaw hits the floor.
;-)
 
DoobieBrother

DoobieBrother

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Alrighty, then.
I've been awake far too long for my own good.
Time to pop my leuky pills and try to get some shut eye and saw some logs for a bit.
July will be the start of a 3-month break from treatment to re-gain strength before starting up again in October, and I'm sure looking forward to it.
Good night, you crazy kids, and assorted old farts!
:-)
 
whodatnation

whodatnation

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Good night doobs bongsmilie May your dreams be filled with dank and happiness...
ps, always laying it down like a boss :-)


I need physiatric help from mo's plant,,, it haunts me in my dreams.....

[video=youtube;7folk931tZU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7folk931tZU[/video]






And sorry for posting these same pics from time to time..... but...... point in case, plants dig a divers spectrum. Diversity, diversity, diversity.




 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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I am one bored sob. I have broken down my forge sold my lathe and packed my exotic wood I carve. My beads my leather all packed. All I have is the tv. I hate tv!
 
Impman

Impman

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DoobieBrother said:
Who's panicking?
And how would you know if mH does or doesn't add crystals if you've never run one yourself?
You are not doing a good job of making your presumptions believable.
You are just coming across as someone who wants to argue about something that you have no practical knowledge of, and making challenges who's results will have no bearing on the real world.
In one breath you say you don't have resources for an experiment, and yet that is what you propose and are eager to participate in it, even though it would be a total sham of an experiment.
No one's arguing, either.
So far we are all only discussing.

Having done a whole bunch of Extrema for over a year (I'm small-time as I need to keep within legal limits regarding number of flowering plants at one time, so I've only grown about 40+ Extrema plants: 30 from seed and 10+ from clones), but, so far, I am seeing more trichomes running this batch of Extrema only under a mH than I did running it only under an HPS.
But I am only a few weeks into flowering and have 4 to 5 weeks to go before harvest, so time will tell as to frostiness, aroma and potency.

edit:
And, this is my first grow where I went 12/12 from start to finish, which means there is no real way for me to accurately compare this grow under mH with past grows using mH for veg & hps for flowering, or just HPS from start to finish.

There is much more to having fun in life than competition, unless the competition is with one's own self.
I challenge YOU to go buy a mH bulb with an enhanced spectrum (like the Eye Hortilux is an enhanced spectrum HPS), and see for yourself.
Document it thoroughly in text, photos and video, and show us your results.
While you're at it, run some under LED, and some under CmH, and some outdoors under the sun.
Until you do, you're just basing your statements on hearsay from others and anecdotal evidence of buds you seen, bought & smoked from dispensaries/clubs.
And you'll get more cow vagina by sauntering rather than charging, regardless of age.
;-)
;-)
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shhhhhhhhh shhhh shh. breathe . i can run a one or two dixie cup exp. under my system and have them off to the side. i will have the same if not more crystals. it would all be in good fun. competition is a scary word for some pot heads i see. we are all winners, is that better?

i am totally going to go buy a MH bulb this weekend. fo sure. I have no science back round or experience or tests. just a few small grows and one big one. Ive failed more than succeed too.
 
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