Club 600

I kinda feel bad for my buddy, only two of his clones have rooted and four of mine have. One of mine got broke in half though so I mended the stem and stuck it in a solo cup to keep track of which one it was. I don't think it will make it but who knows for sure. I don't really understand why the rest of the clones haven't rooted by now but maybe another couple of days and they'll show roots.

I didn't touch them so it wasn't me! Isn't it funny how wives don't want to give us money to grow but when there is money in the shoebox they're real quick to hold out the hand for that!

and when there pipe is cashed there is the hand again

420 oil

Don't even get me started!

The wife & I just had this conversation/argument(?) two nights ago when I let her know I'd be getting a small AC unit at the end of the month for the grow tent in the garage.
Then it's all about how it seems I'm always spending thousands of dollars on my grows, this & that, yada yada yada.
I spend so little on my grows that it actually hurts my grows.
I made her admit that the "thousands" I spend on my grows are cumulative over the last 7 years, and when you amoratize that out it comes to about 700 a year.
The argument fizzled out right about then.

Well, we hashed it out and came to the conclusion that I can spend $250 on a portable AC unit.
In the apartments, I could always locate the growbox near a window for cool air ducting, but the garage has no windows.
I did add garage door insulation this Spring, and now the garage gets only about 10-degrees hotter than outside, but when it's 85f or more outside that means it's 95f and more in the garage, and add 10f or more to the inside tent temperatures.
Without AC I might as well not even grow this summer.
With AC, I should be back to full gonzo.

And, I have enough wood left over & sheetrock to make a permanent grow space in the garage, too.
That's why I'm cleaning the garage out.

it's about time for a vacation

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cof

My husband honestly does not give a shit how much I spend.

We don't dicuss Grow expenditures. I discuss it with myself in front of him.

Just decided to buy a 400w hps/mh to keep my moms and veg plants. Also another small fan filter combo.

Talked through the numbers of increase. From 3 grows a year to 4.8 grows a year. 20-40 bucks extra a month in electricity, but an extra 2 oz a month. Not too shabby.

I honestly don't think he would give a shit until bills weren't being paid.

FP

I swapped a 400 mh for a 6 bulb florescent t-5 for my mothers and veg. It gives out more light and is cooler. just my 2 cents.


cof

That is awesome COF, it is indeed time to take a trip to the islands. Or at least that island. Hey mon.

Link on lights?

High Tech Garden Supply
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-SlimStar-4-Foot-6-Lamp-High-Output-T5-Fluorescent


A SlimStar 4 Foot 6 Lamp High Output T5 Fluorescent
Product Number: GL-GB-4F6L-FT5




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The SlimStar 4 Foot 6 Lamp fixture utilizes the new high output T5 fluorescent lamp (5,000 lumens per lamp, 30,000 total lumen for this fixture). The SlimStar provides high-lumens with low heat output for a fixture that can be placed closer to plants for maximum yields. The SlimStar is also extremely lightweight and easy to hang. The innovative High Yield Lighting design places an air-gap in between the lamps and the ballast housing, allowing the unit to operate at cooler temperatures and provide increase lumen production when compared to similar fixtures.

Measures: 3" tall x 47.5" long x 21.5" wide



Lamp spectrums may be easily changed or combined for growth, bloom or mixed spectrums for different stages of horticultural production. This allows the SlimStar to be a complete, start-to-finish plant growth lighting system.



Comes with six High Output T5 bulbs. Select which spectrum bulbs you want below.



Features:

• Reflector constructed of 95% reflective aluminum for the ultimate in reflectivity and light dispersal
• Parabolic reflector shape isolates each lamp for maximum light output
• Low profile, and lightweight for easy hanging
• 10’ grounded power cord, 120v, plugs into standard household outlet
• Solid state, digital electronic ballasts provide cool, quiet operation
• UL Listed
• 1 year warranty

Customize your product
Select the Bulb Type:
6 Bloom (3000K) Spectrum Bulbs ($0.00)
6 Grow (6400K) Spectrum Bulbs ($0.00)
Mixed - 3 Bloom (3000K) Bulb And 3 Grow (6400K) Bulb ($0.00)
Do you Need Spare T5 bulbs?:
No Spare T5 bulbs ($0.00)
3 Bloom (3000K) And 3 Grow (6400K) Bulbs - Spare ($26.95)
6 Bloom (3000K) Spectrum Bulbs - Spare ($26.95)
6 Grow (6400K) Spectrum Bulbs - Spare ($26.95)
Reflector Hangers:
No Reflector Hangers ($0.00)
1/8" Rope Ratchets - 75lb Max ($11.00)
Hi-Lo Reflector Hangers ($12.00)
Steel Wheel Reflector Hangers ($13.00)
Timers:
No Timer ($0.00)
Single Outlet Mechanical Timer - 120v ($10.00)
Dual Outlet Mechanical Timer - 120v ($15.00)
8 Outlet Timed Surge Protector - 120v ($19.00)
Dual Outlet Digital Timer - 120v ($20.00)
Add a Light Rack:
No Light Rack ($0.00)
AgroMax Light Rack ($29.95)
Optional Extended Warranty:
Standard Warranty ($0.00)
Extended Protection - 2 Full Years! ($40.00)
Price:
$178.95


I have this and a 4 bulb unit with rope rachets.
Also available from your local electric supplier. Ask for a T- High Bay.


cof
cof

meh... i haven't had good luck with htg lights. Their tek light was supposed to give out 10k watts for a 2x2 light.

Plus the cost almost the same amount as a hps, or more!

then try cheaphydroponics More light, less $'s

http://www.cheaphydroponics.com/product-p/spg108.htm





List Price: $252.00

Our Price: $169.00
Savings: $83.00


Florescent lights run cooler with less energy cost than a 400 mh...and it puts out more usable light. Effective range of a 400 is about 2 1/2' X 2 1/2'. A 6 bulb unit will cover a 4 1/2' X 2 1/2'



cof

some good lights but t-5 plant growth vs mh plant growth is what you have to take into account...what kind of growth in plant you want.

how fast do you want clones from your moms?
how big do you want them to be? or how compact do you want them?

i am switching to led and an almost done. one more harvest and the last veg area is set. i had much better growth than the floros and less heat. i found a house and am putting the deposit on it in the morning. no more divorce drama for me thank you

i want to use led but idk which one i look for about 4 plants or 2 plants at a time and i wanna use a 400 led

i hear good things about LED, but man my T5's kick ass.. I get great big fan leaves and really quick growth in veg

The T-5 HO is a fierce bulb indeed!

I have two on my clone table and it is rocking some sprouts:


JD

i use a 125w cfl for veg plants, mothers and cuttings, it is like the opposite of growing weed!. i want them to grow as slowly as possible i like to keep them alive and healthy but not enough to out grow the little 4x4 tent.

i can't use the 400cmh, it makes them grow wayyyy too fast, if i ever get a bit panicked that my flower room is going to be sparse i'll put the 400 over the veg plants to give them a kick but things usually work out very well so it doesn't get used often. if i had a proper grow to run it would have to be mh for veg, they kick absolute ass.