Club 600

i love my 600mh, keeps them short and boy do they grow

OK guys I need your help bad!!!! I have two plants in my tent that are both been in flower for more than 65 days and they dont look done or like they are maturing at all anymore....what can I do with them??? I dont want to just throw them away. Can I just cut them down and turn them both into hash using bubble bags??? They have trichs on them but I just dont know what to do............They look like they are dying and the "buds" on them are just really weak.....hahaah I know one of you awesome growers has some insight......... +reps to the solution hahahaha

BongKong420 said:

OK guys I need your help bad!!!! I have two plants in my tent that are both been in flower for more than 65 days and they dont look done or like they are maturing at all anymore....what can I do with them??? I dont want to just throw them away. Can I just cut them down and turn them both into hash using bubble bags??? They have trichs on them but I just dont know what to do............They look like they are dying and the "buds" on them are just really weak.....hahaah I know one of you awesome growers has some insight......... +reps to the solution hahahaha

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Pictures would help


cof

1badmasonman said:

Looks like a mighty haul of goodness on your hands D. Ill bet your crib just fkn wreaks of the ganj, haha. Nice freaking work bru. Love that circular cone of cheese too. I do indeed see how the vert ripens up those lower bud sites. Many applause bru. 1BMM

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Hey 1Bad, thanks bru, actually my house doesn't smell at all unless I bring some weed into it and leave it open in a jar, or open my patio door and get a whiff of the outdoor monster, hahaha.....my grow room is seperate from my house, you need to go outside first to get to it. The carbon can I have is about a metre long and seems to do the trick reasonably well, all the air that is pulled out of the cab goes straight out of the roof through my house's ventilation system at the moment. So not a snifter mate! You could stay in my pad and if I didn't show you the cab you wouldn't know I was growing. The only way my wife will put up with it to be honest.

Dezracer said:

Yeah you've got my attention now on the vertical grow. I'm now wondering how much trouble it would be to change mine around after this round is finished. I was thinking of giving scrog a go and now I'm considering a vertcial since I've got 7' of height to work with.

I only have one 600 and a 400 though, looks like you're using 2 or 3 600s to make that go.

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No trouble at all imo lad. If you already have an inline and a cool tube you just need to hang it dofferently, and then figure out the best way to get your plants using the 7foot of space (that's your new canopy effectively. And you can still SCROG. In fact by the way my cheese is going I think that's the way.

As far as lights, I use the 2 600's i got in there, previously the 600 and the 400. Then during the day (12-6 for the plants) my MH400 comes on for a bit of exta spectrum. I went from averaging around 10oz-12oz to around 22oz by utilising the extra space. DO IT BRU!!!

0tolerance said:

hmm so im new to the site and new to the 600 club,
ive got a 600W hps with a cool tube and some fluro tubes just to raise my seedlings and clones.
plants definitely shoot up under the hps, im considering buying a mh for veg instead of just hps all the way.
is there ALOT of difference or is it marginal?

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If they are seedling you should be fine with the HPS, most HPS have some sort of dual spectrum in them, check your bulb out. I fthey are stretching then move the cool tube closer to them. Seedlings can actually take a reasonable amount of heat. And with a cool tube you will be fine. If you have cash then I would still got for the MH for veg.

jigfresh said:

From what I've seen it's more than marginal difference in stretch between vegging under MH vs HPS. I think it's worth the extra bulb.

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Agreed.

mcpurple said:

on my first grow i vegged under a HPS and the plants had the titest node spacing i ever seen, and they were very short and stocky, and i had 5 strains going. im not saying it is better then MH cuz i have never vegged under those only CFL. when i start growing i want to veg some plants with MH lights and a HPS to show what i mean cuz i had some people hating real hard on me about vegging under a HPS.
i actually liked it but thought it was to much for seedlings

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Ach man, always haters around if you do something that is different.

las fingerez said:

i love my 600mh, keeps them short and boy do they grow

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Like weeds eh mate!!!

BongKong420 said:

OK guys I need your help bad!!!! I have two plants in my tent that are both been in flower for more than 65 days and they dont look done or like they are maturing at all anymore....what can I do with them??? I dont want to just throw them away. Can I just cut them down and turn them both into hash using bubble bags??? They have trichs on them but I just dont know what to do............They look like they are dying and the "buds" on them are just really weak.....hahaah I know one of you awesome growers has some insight......... +reps to the solution hahahaha

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curious old fart said:

Pictures would help


cof

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Like brother cof said, pictures would indeed help bru. I think you posted before about this problem so come on, let us help you out lad, get that pic up. Sounds just like poor genetcis to me though, or a weak plant like you said.

Peace and HAPPY MONDAYs

no worries youre right Ill post some pics tomorrow I gotta find the camera....

BongKong420 said:

no worries youre right Ill post some pics tomorrow I gotta find the camera....

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Cool, we will be here.....

now im scratchin my head a bit, would i neeed a whole new mh balast if i got a mh bulb?my veg rooms been running at first hps and now i have a venture light crossover bulb but its just as orange as the hps lol.

mr west said:

now im scratchin my head a bit, would i neeed a whole new mh balast if i got a mh bulb?my veg rooms been running at first hps and now i have a venture light crossover bulb but its just as orange as the hps lol.

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I run my mh and my hps on the same ballast....works fine.

back to trimmin leaves, leaves everyfekking where, lol.

same here runs from the same ballast

mr west said:

now im scratchin my head a bit, would i neeed a whole new mh balast if i got a mh bulb?my veg rooms been running at first hps and now i have a venture light crossover bulb but its just as orange as the hps lol.

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It's not what your eye sees but what the plant recieves. The mh should be fine in your ballast.


cof

if I'm not mistaken, you would need a conversion bulb. meaning a mh bulb that runs on an hps ballast. Unless you had a switchable ballast.

jigfresh said:

if I'm not mistaken, you would need a conversion bulb. meaning a mh bulb that runs on an hps ballast. Unless you had a switchable ballast.

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This is what would be the right way to do it. However, the pulse rates between the HPS and MH differ in such a way that a MH bulb will actually fire on a ballast designed for HPS. It probably won't work the other way around though. The thing is, and someone will no doubt want to dispute this because they've been using a MH in a HPS ballast for a while, the ignitor in your ballast will burn out prematurely when trying to fire a MH bulb and the bulb may not last as long as it should.

I know the pics are crappy but I think this plant may be a Hermie. Whadya think brothers?

DST said:

I run my mh and my hps on the same ballast....works fine.

back to trimmin leaves, leaves everyfekking where, lol.

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yep thats what im doing and every things cool

The plant I took the pics of is the only Raspberry Cough in the flower room starting to form flowers at this point. It has the little hairs that indicate a female but I also see theese little chingaros in a few spots too.

There's two other RC plants that as of now are looking like they'll be male but I'm not certain yet. I still only have one Afgan Kush that's for sure female.

Dezracer said:

I know the pics are crappy but I think this plant may be a Hermie. Whadya think brothers?

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i don't know about hermie but those are definately some balls on there. get rid imo

hey lads, got a quastion for you experienced grower. i wanted to know if my plant is mature in veg now so i can flower it. well some nodes are still oposite each other and most are alternating nodes, do all of the nodes have to be alternating for the plant to be mature?

ghb said:

i don't know about hermie but those are definately some balls on there. get rid imo

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I haven't had any male plants yet but figured that's what tose were. I say I think it's a hermie though because there's definite female signs on the plant too. There's even normal looking little buds starting to from. I already separated it from the rest of the plants so I guess I'll go bag it and trash it now.

Bummer seeing as how I'm pretty sure two others are male. That's 3 out of 5 so not very good.

nas2007 said:

hey lads, got a quastion for you experienced grower. i wanted to know if my plant is mature in veg now so i can flower it. well some nodes are still oposite each other and most are alternating nodes, do all of the nodes have to be alternating for the plant to be mature?

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you can flower a plant when ever you want.

you flower from seed if you really wanted to.

Sure can. I had some seeds sprout yesterday and they're going in the flower room today so I can try my hand at the 12/12 from seed grows. I am also growing the same strains by vegging them for a normal time period too so I can see what the difference in yield is.

What's important to know though is that the plant won't flower right away if it's not mature. A plant can't flower until it's mature. Plants will sometimes mature quicker if grown 12/12 from seed though, not always but sometimes. After reading up on some 12/12 from seed grows it looks like plants still average 10-12 weeks from seeds to harvest depending on strain and conditions.