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giggles26

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No co2 I don't have a ppm meter bro I literally just go under what it says on the bag/box and a I foliar spray the girls 3-4 times a week with DM saturator with some armorSi and snow storm ultra. This is what my hygrometer usually looks like mon-friday.
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You're over thinking all this. Wanna see what my room is at? Here!
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DCobeen

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No co2 I don't have a ppm meter bro I literally just go under what it says on the bag/box and a I foliar spray the girls 3-4 times a week with DM saturator with some armorSi and snow storm ultra. This is what my hygrometer usually looks like mon-friday.
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39% is really low RH. as when they are yount they like 50% plus RH till you flip and stretch is over then what you have is right on. So where you are right now I would have 50% RH at lights out. for another 2 weeks then slowly drop to 35% at harvest even 45% harvest. but again that is just how I would do it. I think we have to each get a clone sent to us from say doc. rooted and same size. We each do it our way but have to veg so long then flip at same time. harvest same day. then we can see what RH really does. I can talk all night and means nothing till I prove it. And we then dry and bag up a bud and send back to the one who sent us the clone as the judge. you up for a challange. I will grow under same light as you in flower except led i dont have a strong enough one yet.
 

The Yorkshireman

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According to Subcool that male would most likely be the keeper of the pack. It is his theory that the last males to show sex carry the "drug trait". This is supported by the argument that without human intervention the plant would revert back to hemp. But our selective breeding techniques allow us to manipulate the genes.He says if we all stopped chucking pollen and just left her to her self, eventually it would go back to hemp (tall,no thc, all stems). So a shorty male that shows sex late is prolly good parental stock. Its worth a try. We just need to label everything and make it as scientific as we can.

According to Shantibaba......

1) Males that auto flower irrespective of daylight hours are normally eliminated to insure against hermaphroditism or unwanted male traits.

2) Males that flower too quickly or too tall are also not the best for breeding since they put too much energy into fiber production which is not the trait one is looking for in a medicinal plant.

3) Males that have large hollow main stems are sought out rather than males that are more pith-filled stems - the main reason are that large hollow stemmed males are better THC producers than other plants.

4) Males that produce tight floral clusters rather than airy sparse floral clusters are usually better to breed with.

5) Finally if you rub your fingers against the stem of a developing male and are able to get strong odors or aromas (terpines) you will be advised to use these males as trichrome production and flavor are directly related to plants that produce odors early on.


This is supported by his Msc in Biology and years in the game, from creating original cup winning strains that have been imitated ever since to helping pioneer high CBD strains and also commercial oil production for the cosmetic industry.
 

Enwhysea

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39% is really low RH. as when they are yount they like 50% plus RH till you flip and stretch is over then what you have is right on. So where you are right now I would have 50% RH at lights out. for another 2 weeks then slowly drop to 35% at harvest even 45% harvest. but again that is just how I would do it. I think we have to each get a clone sent to us from say doc. rooted and same size. We each do it our way but have to veg so long then flip at same time. harvest same day. then we can see what RH really does. I can talk all night and means nothing till I prove it. And we then dry and bag up a bud and send back to the one who sent us the clone as the judge. you up for a challange. I will grow under same light as you in flower except led i dont have a strong enough one yet.
Just let doc supply the clones and I'll be the taste tester as I have a younger pallet lol

Also how do you suggest raising my rh without spending any money if possible
 

DCobeen

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It's a good thing, trust me. I like to call it forty-fiving! Best is the double forty-five when they are angled up at the stem and the leaves themselves angle up and straight. It means straight happiness. Here look here, this girl is happy, you can't tell me that my temps and everything else isn't dialed in. It's pure happiness, if theres no curl and everything is in check then keep on.

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Don't trip bro, I've been at this awhile :D
Okay I am gonna say this so everyone understands me. When leaves pull up they are loosing to much moisture. not good. heat vs moisture ratio. Happy plants all. Think a minute about what I am saying. I cant explain it more. Happy leaves dont pull up. well not too much they will go a tiny bit up but not much.
 

shishkaboy

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I have a strain cheese bx2 f2 every feeding, I mean every single time as soon as they get some food the leave go straight up. I have never seen a plant pray this hard before. It starts to give off a stronger smell. imo it shows me that I am doing them right. The mother used to do the same think, im pretty sure I even mentioned it in my thread a long time ago. Watching a time lapse video would lead me to believe that they all pray,it just goes unnoticed.

@Giggles I was talking about the 47 day purple turning Maui x Harli. I smoke while looking at that picture.
@ DC If it were me I would keep his pollen seperate from the mixed pollen and do some testing on a known good female with a very different look. In order to help "see" which parent is more dominant and what traits are passed down.
@ All I see you all smoke joints. Blunts for me.
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Here s my bag seed f2's with the trifoliate mutant.
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I chopped off the head of the dog mom to try to get her back to some good veg growth.
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@ nyc HPS on the right and MH on the right.
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DCobeen

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According to Shantibaba......

1) Males that auto flower irrespective of daylight hours are normally eliminated to insure against hermaphroditism or unwanted male traits.

2) Males that flower too quickly or too tall are also not the best for breeding since they put too much energy into fiber production which is not the trait one is looking for in a medicinal plant.

3) Males that have large hollow main stems are sought out rather than males that are more pith-filled stems - the main reason are that large hollow stemmed males are better THC producers than other plants.

4) Males that produce tight floral clusters rather than airy sparse floral clusters are usually better to breed with.

5) Finally if you rub your fingers against the stem of a developing male and are able to get strong odors or aromas (terpines) you will be advised to use these males as trichrome production and flavor are directly related to plants that produce odors early on.


This is supported by his Msc in Biology and years in the game, from creating original cup winning strains that have been imitated ever since to helping pioneer high CBD strains and also commercial oil production for the cosmetic industry.
yes Brothers grimm has a similar guide as that. I need to follow it as they know what they are talking about. I am rookie/noob in breeding so thank you for posting this.
 

DCobeen

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Just let doc supply the clones and I'll be the taste tester as I have a younger pallet lol

Also how do you suggest raising my rh without spending any money if possible
2 tasters Is really needed. RH is huge. low is not good 39% max is low. I accept if he does.
 

DCobeen

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I have a strain cheese bx2 f2 every feeding, I mean every single time as soon as they get some food the leave go straight up. I have never seen a plant pray this hard before. It starts to give off a stronger smell. imo it shows me that I am doing them right. The mother used to do the same think, im pretty sure I even mentioned it in my thread a long time ago. Watching a time lapse video would lead me to believe that they all pray,it just goes unnoticed.

@Giggles I was talking about the 47 day purple turning Maui x Harli. I smoke while looking at that picture.
@ DC If it were me I would keep his pollen seperate from the mixed pollen and do some testing on a known good female with a very different look. In order to help "see" which parent is more dominant and what traits are passed down.
@ All I see you all smoke joints. Blunts for me.
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Here s my bag seed f2's with the trifoliate mutant.
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I chopped off the head of the dog mom to try to get her back to some good veg growth.
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@ nyc HPS on the right and MH on the right.
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None of them are praying. they look happy and happy. your plants I would love to have in my garden.
Look back a couple pages and see how they was pointing up. I know I am not wrong. I dont see that very often. Its always to low RH. the tops of yours do look stressed a bit. but hid lights can do that.
 

AlphaPhase

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That's what I mean DC, thanks, I think people take the praying differently, when I say my plants are praying I just mean they are perky and angled up 30-40 degrees or so, the bad praying is when they are almost straight up, that's when you should start looking for problems, that's why I don't want people getting confused because it's quite possible people that are wondering why their plants are praying, they are doing great, but there is a fine line between good and bad praying, all my hybrids do the happy pray, the sativas tend to grow loose and just hang like they are relaxed. A cool thing you can do is add h2o2 and the extra oxygen will make a plant pray for little bit 8-) I'm in hydro though, so my o2 on the root zone is always high,, in soil the roots really only get new oxygen when you water, that's why it's harder to get them to pray for long periods of time
 

Dr.D81

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I have a strain cheese bx2 f2 every feeding, I mean every single time as soon as they get some food the leave go straight up. I have never seen a plant pray this hard before. It starts to give off a stronger smell. imo it shows me that I am doing them right. The mother used to do the same think, im pretty sure I even mentioned it in my thread a long time ago. Watching a time lapse video would lead me to believe that they all pray,it just goes unnoticed.

@Giggles I was talking about the 47 day purple turning Maui x Harli. I smoke while looking at that picture.
@ DC If it were me I would keep his pollen seperate from the mixed pollen and do some testing on a known good female with a very different look. In order to help "see" which parent is more dominant and what traits are passed down.
@ All I see you all smoke joints. Blunts for me.
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Here s my bag seed f2's with the trifoliate mutant.
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I chopped off the head of the dog mom to try to get her back to some good veg growth.
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@ nyc HPS on the right and MH on the right.
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Rolling with a game it looks like;)
the old lady and me are blunt smokers. W.O. 24k, W.O. silver, and swishers are our preferred ones
 

DCobeen

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Thanks guys but before we have a dick swinging contest I just want to say we are all buddies here and mine hangs just like yours...hopefull
I agree, Dont get mad at me or hate me. I point out what I see. I am not fighting or saying I am better as I am not we are all human. So please dont take what I am saying in the bad way. I am a friend. i jsut want to see us all grow the best garden we can. If you see me doing something please please tell me. Shit I am not perfect and never will be. I am here to be part of club 600. so we all do better. If I need to shut up please someone pm me as I dont want ot piss anyone off.
 
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