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so im just hanging out in my garden checking out my first pistols ever!!!

i cant describe how stoked i am

So its OFFICAL i let my Iced Grapefruits die i didnt go down their to put water in the tank for 3 days i come down today and they are both shriveled up like a dick in the pool lol. Makes me kinda sad but it motivated me to clean the shit out of my Grow room and now its just Purple Urkle By herself. I think she likes it like that lol Anyway this is why i need a grow friend so i could just pass these 2 Massivly half dead plants to somebody. They are still alive but i dont want to put water in the rez just for them to be neglected more and waste nutes ETC on something im just going to use for hash. ANYWAY how my 600w bros doing on this Friday morning GIVE ME SOME GOOD NEWS lol im bord and there is nothing to be done in the garden at the moment Maby the Veg room in due for Vacuuming and a PM spray down

wally nutter said:

so im just hanging out in my garden checking out my first pistols ever!!!

i cant describe how stoked i am

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is it Pistol or Piston?????? Im confused lol But congrats bro

Hotsause said:

is it Pistol or Piston?????? Im confused lol But congrats bro

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Niether. Pistil.

Hotsause I wish I knew some growers around my neck of the woods too.

tip top toker said:

Niether. Pistil.

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thats funny

I'm wishing now that I would've kept a male Raspberry cough plant to try harvesting pollen from. I want to have more seeds on hand so I can do more experimenting with 12/12 from seeds, party cup grows and stuff like that. I just don't want to use any of the seeds I have currently for it. This Raspberry Cough strain seems to have quite large plants too so could be a nice deal.

Do you guys think I could get the same quality of pollen from a plant if it's grown 12/12 from seeds or does the way the male grows have anything to do with it? I do still have 5 reg Raspberry seeds and I'm sure I'll get at least 1 male from them. I was thinking I could get them germinated and grow them all 12/12 from seed and once they show sex, either put a male in a box on his own with some CFLs or put a male and female in a box together and them them go at it. This way I'd either end up with some pollen for breeding, a shitload of seeds of either Rapsberry Cough or a cross if I was to put a different strain female in with the male. I suppose I could try to harvest some pollen from a male AND let him do his thing with a female or two if I wanted.

I was just thinking I could do a cardboard box grow with them separate from my current grow so as to not pollenate the other girls. Start them off in the flower room and separate them once they show sex.

Good idea or bad? Is there a lot of risk in getting seeds in everything in the vert room by even having the box in the same garage as the vert room or would it be pretty safe as long as the box is nowhere near the intakes of the other rooms?

Dezracer said:

Good idea or bad? Is there a lot of risk in getting seeds in everything in the vert room by even having the box in the same garage as the vert room or would it be pretty safe as long as the box is nowhere near the intakes of the other rooms?

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There is a lot of risk of cross contamination imo. I have seperated two DPQ's this run and had them both in a black bag with an oscillating fan (the bag was tied up and I didn't do it in my grow room either) I then after spraying lightly put the DPQ back into the flower room ( I see a lot of cross pollination now on my cheese plant) Next run I will do the same but after pollinating the females, run them in a seperate box, (was thinking see-through tote box or something like that - with an air sock/filter and fan for circulation.)

DEZ-the cheapest way I found to make a vertical setup was with 4" white irrigation drain pipe. The 4" white clean water pipes will cost about $140 a tier, but the irrigation pipe will cost about $140 for 4 tiers...big difference. Any way you go with PVC, make sure you use glue primer before using glue. I have yet to have a leak from either of my octos. hope this helps.

EDIT:If you are thinking about cross pollenation, I would not do it in a vertical grow. I need a few fans in my room to keep the co2 and air circulating around. When I get nanners popping anywhere, I get seeds everywhere. Vertical has less room for error, but once you get it, you got it.

strictly seedleSs said:

DEZ-the cheapest way I found to make a vertical setup was with 4" white irrigation drain pipe. The 4" white clean water pipes will cost about $140 a tier, but the irrigation pipe will cost about $140 for 4 tiers...big difference. Any way you go with PVC, make sure you use glue primer before using glue. I have yet to have a leak from either of my octos. hope this helps.

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Thank you. I am familiar with working with pipe , j/k. Seriously though, I do use PVC and ABS pretty regularly (hazards of trenching through schools and parks) and that's why I have some just sitting around. I've got bundles of smaller stuff and then I have some 3", 4" and 6" stuff too. The 6" would be awesome but it's going to be too pricey and most sytems are 4" anyway so I'll most likely be going with the drain pipe, like you said.

DST said:

There is a lot of risk of cross contamination imo. I have seperated two DPQ's this run and had them both in a black bag with an oscillating fan (the bag was tied up and I didn't do it in my grow room either) I then after spraying lightly put the DPQ back into the flower room ( I see a lot of cross pollination now on my cheese plant) Next run I will do the same but after pollinating the females, run them in a seperate box, (was thinking see-through tote box or something like that - with an air sock/filter and fan for circulation.)

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So you think it would be okay if I let them finish in a separate box though? Never return them to the regular flower room? I mentioned a cardboard box but could use this bigass black tote I've got too if the plants were grown 12/12 from seed since they'd stay small. A clear one would be great I think.

I really want to start having some seeds without having to spend $50-$150 every time I want some so I think I will germ the 5 RC seeds and grow them 12/12 from seed. I think I might just have them go start to finish in a tote or box with CFLs though and never put them in the vert room at all just to be safe. I'll have to stick a couple plants of other strains in ther too once I have a stud for some variety.

It'll be one or two of the following since it's what I have going:
- Jack Herer
- White Widow
- Purple Haze
- Cataract Kush
- Headband
- DOG
- Aghan Kush

I'll just root a clone of each of whichever strains and stick it in there with the male RC and one female RC and let em go.

jus ordered some beans. attitude is giving away killer seeds!!

so anyway heres the list.

5 fem Sativa Seeds Hawaii Maui Waui

10 reg TGA Subcool Seeds The Third Dimension

freebies include one of each:

UFO#3 Kannabia Seeds Big Band Feminized

UFO#1Kannabia Seeds Kannabia Special Feminized

UFO#2Kannabia Seeds Power Skunk Feminized

Dutch Passion Blueberry Feminized

Dutch Passion Orange Bud Feminized

Dutch Passion Mekong High

Dutch Passion White Widow Feminized

Dutch Passion Skunk #11 Feminized

well i want to make some canna butter to make into plain brownies. so i had a few questions, i only want to make enough butter to make brownies so how much butter do i use, also i want very strong ones, so ho much bud should i use. and do i use the same amount of canna butter in the brownies as reg butter.
i basicly know how yo make strong browneis

mcpurple said:

well i want to make some canna butter to make into plain brownies. so i had a few questions, i only want to make enough butter to make brownies so how much butter do i use, also i want very strong ones, so ho much bud should i use. and do i use the same amount of canna butter in the brownies as reg butter.
i basicly know how yo make strong browneis

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If you have a brownie recipe, you want use however much butter the recipe calls for. Substitute the same amount of cannabutter as you would reg butter. If you're wanting to make just enough for your one batch of brownies, just put however much the recipe calls for plus a little extra in the pot with your weed. You'll lose some butter during straining and some will stay on the utensils, etc. That's why I say to put a little extra.

Example: If therecipe calls for 1/2 cup or 1 stick, put 3/4 cup or a stick and a half in with your weed and you'll end up with just over what you need. I use 1 1/4 stick of reg butter to make 1 stick of cannabutter and it usually comes out just about perfect.

If you want them strong, use 1/4oz of weed to 1 stick of butter. It's the ratio I like to use and my butter is typically pretty strong, makes much stronger edibles than the edibles from a club.

I told DST I'd post this here. Like him, I hate to waste any part of a plant so when I topped a seedling I put the top in the bubble cloner. It's comedy to me really since it's soo small. There's only about 3/4" of stem sticking out the bottom of the neoprene, LOL. It's been in there for a few days or so now and it looks better than before I cut it from the plant. No roots yet and I'm not sure they'll ever show but either way I thought it would be a fun little experiment.

Wally, Maui waui, you ever smoke a good sativa? If not you're in for a treat. And speaking of sativa, tomorrow is chopping day for some acapulco gold and red diesel over at stupid's house. I am looking forward to smoking some gold, haven't had it in decades. Stupid is on this no smoke kick, he tries to only use his vaporizer. He stopped smoking cigs about ten years or so ago and since he's getting old, like me, he worries about his health. I tell him I don't know why, he is going to die just as surely as I am, why worry about it, when the day comes, you're gone. Back to the point, outside of a couple of hits, all the scissor hash will go home with me.

Dezracer said:

If you have a brownie recipe, you want use however much butter the recipe calls for. Substitute the same amount of cannabutter as you would reg butter. If you're wanting to make just enough for your one batch of brownies, just put however much the recipe calls for plus a little extra in the pot with your weed. You'll lose some butter during straining and some will stay on the utensils, etc. That's why I say to put a little extra.

Example: If therecipe calls for 1/2 cup or 1 stick, put 3/4 cup or a stick and a half in with your weed and you'll end up with just over what you need. I use 1 1/4 stick of reg butter to make 1 stick of cannabutter and it usually comes out just about perfect.

If you want them strong, use 1/4oz of weed to 1 stick of butter. It's the ratio I like to use and my butter is typically pretty strong, makes much stronger edibles than the edibles from a club.

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thanks for the info, how long to i cook the weed in the butter for, and is theri a tempo i dont want to go over in the oven

So I got me some neem oil, I have no idea why, I don't know how it's used, so I'm reading up on its uses. This is for everyone who has problems with powdery mildew and spider mites...

Pyrethrum has been used to kill mites. It is a natural pesticide produced by a close relative of the chrysanthemum. The problem with using it is that many races of mites have developed immunity to it. However, it is the first miticide you should try.
Cinnamite comes as a concentrate that is diluted and sprayed on the plants. It contains a miticide derived from cinnamon oil. It is very safe and is rated least hazardous. It is quite effective but it doesn't kill the eggs. It should be used every three days for two weeks to make sure all the mites are killed soon after they hatch. It is a contact spray so plants should be dipped or sprayed on the leaf undersides. It is also effective against powdery mildew.
Neem oil is a natural miticide derived from the nuts of the Neem tree, which is found in India. It is a mite repellent as well, so some gardeners use it as a prophylactic, spraying it on a weekly basis. I mix neem oil with Cinnamite to eliminate small infections. Cinnamite and neem oil are also used against powdery mildew.
For growers who distrust anything commercial, try an ?herbal tea? that acts as a miticide. To each quart of water use a tablespoon each of ground cinnamon, ground clove and 2 tablespoons of ground Italian seasoning. Heat the mixture until it starts to simmer, then turn off the heat. Add 2 tablespoons crushed fresh garlic when the water cools to warm. Let the tea sit until it cools. Strain and save the water using a cloth or coffee filter. Add a few drops of liquid soap or dishwashing liquid to the water. It is ready to be sprayed on the leaf undersides. After spraying the mites off with water, spray it on the leaf undersides. It will eliminate the mites if it is sprayed every three days after the wash. Within two weeks the mites will probably be gone.



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Then we have this home-made remedy from what I presume is a fellow grower out there on terra firma...



Here is a remedy I just started with and it seems to work fine. It is also very inexpensive and seems to be very safe as far as not damaging the plant. I first used it on aphids and then tried it on some spider mites on my cannabis plant.
Try doing this:...chop up about 10 habanero peppers and several cloves of garlic. Put them into a bottle of water and let set for a few days until the water is very hot, pepper wise. You could also chop up other types of hot chilis but habaneros are the hottest.
After allowing to soak for several days strain the water and you're ready to start spraying. I call it "habanero hell". It's totally natural with no dangerous chemicals. It seems to kill them instantly and will probably make the leaves too hot to suck on. I just started this so will see how it goes.
I found this idea while "googling" on treating for aphids. Any really hot peppers will probably work.


I do know that hot chilies are used in gardening to repel pests, maybe it works on our hobby???

Scotch Bonnet are the same as habaneros, they also are not the hottest pepper on record...and it's not the ghost chili either, I just read some Brit came up with a new pepper that is 350k scovill units hotter than the ghost chili.

i use neem to kill mites and it works great it is easy to use as well.
ive also done the peppers, and garlic chopped up and boiled and then sprayed on but i liked the neem oil better

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