did you factor in the height into your equation put a 600 18" from a plant and a 1000 18" from a plant that 88,000 lumens per watt changes big time the more you place a 600 up the faster you lose its lumen ratio i beleive a 1000 watter 18" from tops still gives plants full power penetration is what its all about why does a 1000 watter run hotter cause it produces more power period more power = bigger yields now if your looking at effiency yes 600 watter run better per watt but if your looking for yield 1000 smoke 600's away don't care what anyone saysAn EYE Hortilux 600w puts out 88,000 initial lumens. The same in a 1000w puts out 145,000. That makes the 600 put out ~147 lumens/ watt. The 1000 would be 145 lum/ w. Pretty much the same ratio. 600's are the most efficient overall, but a 1000w isn't that much more inefficient. Bringing the heat both can produce is a different matter.
Put half my plants into 12/12 yesterday. I'm expecting big things around these parts in 7-8 weeks!!!
to each there own and your right it comes down to factoring enviroment i run my 1000's 12 - 14 " from my tops but then again i got over 3k in power just working on my enviroment dialings and again my experiment was not just with a few plants it was total of 160 plants and 12,000 watts of lighting power as well as another 6 k in room venting and fans etc big difference when a room is so dialed in as to if you fart it detects itLighting, your screen name would have me believe you understand lighting.....and what you said is true, but nothing new info wise. This vert style is all about efficiency, and 1000w arent always as efficient as 600w. My buds are little bigger with a 1000w, but they arent as solid. 2 600w yield about the same as a 1000w for me, and the 600 buds were the same size as the 1000w. It all depends on how you utilize the space.....hence this vert club. you asked if jig factored in the "height", but height isnt what vert is about. the "space" between the buds and the light will always effect the buds size/density. With experience comes the know how, of how to effect the plant to give you better result. IE, if your getting alot of popcorn buds, you should lollipop the plant to allow only the buds that get the light penetration to have the opportunity to grow. But you do know how lighting works, so where is your vert grow? because if you know what you know, you should know vert is the way to go.
as for the buds shriveling when they dry, my 1000w buds shrivel waaay more than my 600w buds. one day I will be using 600s again, because I liked the results better.
i may not grow vert doesn;t mean i can't achieve yield per sq foot ) my averages are 1160 dry grams per 1000 watt that's 4640 wet grams vert has it's purpose don't get me wrong but being a vert thread lets talk about vertical lighting compared to horizontal with reflector as your aware most city street lights are horizontal why is this could it be they want light shining down onto the street rather then straight across does the sun go between the plant ??? no it rather as well beats down and on the side opf the plantso you dont grow vert then? my man jig is the master of space/lumens/yield. read through his journal. and yeah "to each their own" , but this is a vert thread.
No disrespect, but your analogy of the street light, as well as your diagram, is irreverent in correlation to growing bare bulb vertical.i may not grow vert doesn;t mean i can't achieve yield per sq foot ) my averages are 1160 dry grams per 1000 watt that's 4640 wet grams vert has it's purpose don't get me wrong but being a vert thread lets talk about vertical lighting compared to horizontal with reflector as your aware most city street lights are horizontal why is this could it be they want light shining down onto the street rather then straight across does the sun go between the plant ??? no it rather as well beats down and on the side opf the plant
Lets face it we cannot bend lighting in our grow rooms here are some diagrams of actual vertical loss
I hope we are all aware light that hits under the plant leafs are not good right
So that's where you are coming from. Was wondering what your issue was. I don't think anyone in this thread is out of control making ridiculous claims. Nor do I think anyone in this thread is responsible for the entire vert section. Maybe you should caution everyone with your own thread to save them from disaster.the vert section has gotten out of control as far as hyping vert over horizontal......
this^^is some good info,it is always better to crawl befor you can walk,that is the point of this thread.well were i am from and prob 99 percent of everyone plant count dictates jail time so in order to get good yields you need big pots root mass = yield
i believe in vert>horizontal but the vert section has gotten out of control as far as hyping vert over horizontal......
youll watch the majority of those cats fail miserably cause they get caught up in ridiculous expectations.
the combination of high numbers, weak clones, and vert lighting is a recipe for disaster if you try to run before you can walk.
Damn bro those musta been some big girls 463 outta 3 BBK!!I jarred up my most recent harvest and with just four plants, I have 463gm of BBK (3 plants) and 97gm of DK (1 plant).