coco experts pls help!

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Iceman8700

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bk78 said:
Your shits locked out due to blasting them with 1200ppm

feed half that with a proper ph’d solution

its not going to fix itself overnight either by the way

lift your lights, let them recover
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my mistake..im feeding at 1,2 ec i.e 600ppm..can i flush with plain ro water?
 
Creature1969

Creature1969

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Iceman8700 said:
my mistake..im feeding at 1,2 ec i.e 600ppm..can i flush with plain ro water?
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1.2 EC seems high for plants that size to me. I'd be around 0.8-0.9 EC with my nutes. I don't run Maxi.

Flush with what you want in the coco. If you want 0.8 EC, 6.0PH, feed that until runoff matches input.
Never flush with plain water, it will cause further issues by pulling Ca out of your coco.
 
TintEastwood

TintEastwood

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6 grams of maxibloom PPM breakdown.
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In my experience, big swings in feed EC (flushing espec.) can cause one time tip burn.
Tips aside, I see Mg def. Excessive Ca can lockout Mg, as can wrong PH.

Mg def. For me, feeding at PH of 6.2 helps with Mg uptake.
I've never use Maxibloom. Never plain water with coco.
Keep EC and PH consistent. (6.0 thru 6.3 is what I do normally)

not gospel
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I would be feeding and making sure runoff EC is proper. (not too high)

 
Scuzzman

Scuzzman

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do as BK said - things take time to repair-
you dont need 20-40% run off what a waste, I water 3 and 5 gallon fabric pots once every 2-3 days with a max 5 % run off , never let coco coir dry out , never measure runoff as its irreverent (bro science)
veg I never go over 550 ppm and flower never over 800 ppm , PH 5.8-6.3 100% coco coir -
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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run off is never going to match what you're putting in unless you're pouring it in so fast the plant doesn't have time to use it.
in a healthy hydro system, your ppm should be going down and your ph should be rising as the plants consume nutrients from the solution, watering to run off with fresh solution at the proper ph daily will keep all of that in the ranges it should be, without you having to do anything to keep it there...
 
myke

myke

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We get these threads daily of people having problems with drain to waste.The one common thing is when they show pics plants are always in saucers. When you see the pros pics you see elevated trays with drains.

Im having problems with my drain to waste plants please help me. But they don’t have a drain to waste. Wtf?
carry on rant over.
 
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Iceman8700

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myke said:
We get these threads daily of people having problems with drain to waste.The one common thing is when they show pics plants are always in saucers. When you see the pros pics you see elevated trays with drains.

Im having problems with my drain to waste plants please help me. But they don’t have a drain to waste. Wtf?
carry on rant over.
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Listen mate...I collect/remove the run off within an hour after feeding and I'm using air pots not fabric. The base in the airpot is elevated 2 levels from the bottom and in no way does the runoff water touch the base of the pot inside...nobody is ranting here..u probably misunderstood. Have a good day.
 
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oill

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BigfootsCousin said:
I don't know about all that scientific stuff to a perfection , but your plants are far from suffering . Lay of the watering until almost completely dry , make the roots grow more by looking deeper for water in the soil, then water . I myself make my own soil, and add this and that to get what I know works. The main things I focus on are topping, pruning, and trying to get maximum. I used to worry about PH my water, Add this , add that , more of this less of that ,flush flush flush ,But now I keep it simple. I grow from seed straight into 5 gallon from germination, I focus mainly on soil PH , Hell half the time I just give them Tap Water bahaha, and i only use these below , plus CO2 I make toward the end Flower w/ I think it's called Calcium Carbonate I cant remember , need order more.... basically what I figured out is a good medium , and keep it simple , don't over water , over heat , over light, over nute ..... Ok crap was going to send you pics of what I use now days but they are in with my plants that sleeping 12/12 ,I try later tonight remember.....Keep It Simple . Here's mine keeping it super simple ..





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Ignore this guy. (No offense but your talking about soil on a coco thread!)

Keep fertigsting every day. Coco needs food. What I see is a hungry plant. I feed my coco grows every day for 15 mins at ec 1.6 to 1.8. Your ph should be at 5.9 bit your 6.1 should be ok.... are you calibrating your ph meter?
 
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Iceman8700

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oill said:
Ignore this guy. (No offense but your talking about soil on a coco thread!)

Keep fertigsting every day. Coco needs food. What I see is a hungry plant. I feed my coco grows every day for 15 mins at ec 1.6 to 1.8. Your ph should be at 5.9 bit your 6.1 should be ok.... are you calibrating your ph meter?
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Ph meter is calibrated every week..using Hanna growline meter.
Ive been feeding mostly @ph6-6.1and yet facing problems. I read elsewhere to feed at ph5.2. I did try and it seems to be working but not totally...better than ph6 atleast. Still confused tho...
 
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Iceman8700 said:
Ph meter is calibrated every week..using Hanna growline meter.
Ive been feeding mostly @ph6-6.1and yet facing problems. I read elsewhere to feed at ph5.2. I did try and it seems to be working but not totally...better than ph6 atleast. Still confused tho...
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5.2 is too low.... your underfeeding! Stick to 5.9 and 1.6 to 1.8 ec....make sure you get plenty of run off


Also.what tems are you running? Led needs 26c
 
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Iceman8700

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oill said:
5.2 is too low.... your underfeeding! Stick to 5.9 and 1.6 to 1.8 ec....make sure you get plenty of run off


Also.what tems are you running? Led needs 26c
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At ph5.8-6 the leaves deteriorate faster..hence 5.2. I'm get 20-40% runoff and not exceeding 50ppm more than inflow..
Temps are 30-32c with quantum board led
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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My nutrient mixed is 6.2/6.3ph imo perfect 6.0/6.3 is my range 5.2 would have me in a fluster of PH up

30/32c coupled with high (ish) ec isn't a good mixture, ec is partially dictated by room temperature.
 
Star Dog

Star Dog

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Raising the light would be a good start just to rule it out, I've done a bit of damage to plants with light bleaching and I was using less wattage than you are.

From what you've said imo you're doing everything right it can't be much wrong, at least try it.
 
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Iceman8700

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jarvild said:
Over watered and to much light, plain and simple, there's algae growing on your perlite, Daily or multi-times feedings a day are for big plants in small pots once the roots are established in the pots.
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Pls scroll and see pics.. there's algae growing on the perlite and he's fertigating the seedling twice a day. Algae doesn't hurt the plants I suppose..
 
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Star Dog said:
Raising the light would be a good start just to rule it out, I've done a bit of damage to plants with light bleaching and I was using less wattage than you are.

From what you've said imo you're doing everything right it can't be much wrong, at least try it.
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Lights are 21" above canopy. Amd I use ac once every 2 hrs just to cool things down...normally temps are 30-32c
 
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Iceman8700

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Tbh...um feeding currently at ph5.2 ec1.2 and I'm seeing no further deterioration. I know the ph sounds whacked...but if it's working I thinks she's liking it. Growth wise it's not as I'd expect it to be but will keep you'll updated..time will tell..
 
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