coco experts pls help!

Star Dog

Star Dog

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Iceman8700 said:
So then, considering my humidity, is it better I water less often? Allowing the medium to dry out a bit..say once a day?
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I can assure you that you can't over water a plant that size in coco.
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Roots won't grow like that if it's getting to dry, I'm feeding 3x daily, it's absolutely fine they love it.
 
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higher self

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I have plants that have been in solo cups for awhile, I only water once a day & the plants are healthy. They don't get completely dry so their good & my ppm stay around 300-400ppms in veg with Dyna Gro products. I was using only Floranova Bloom but my results with Dyna Gro have been a lot better & especially in veg.
 
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jonnynobody

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jarvild said:
1 part Cyco dry professional nutrients at 600 ppm, pH to 6
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I didn't realize anyone was dumb enough to buy that bullshit. Give yourself a pat on the back. Do better next time. 20 kilos for $541. I have a feeling the guys running that company had a sit down pondering how dumb the consumer is and how much they can rape said consumer for simple elements. Looks like they hooked at least 1 ;)
 
jarvild

jarvild

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jonnynobody said:
I didn't realize anyone was dumb enough to buy that bullshit. Give yourself a pat on the back. Do better next time. 20 kilos for $541. I have a feeling the guys running that company had a sit down pondering how dumb the consumer is and how much they can rape said consumer for simple elements. Looks like they hooked at least 1 ;)
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But yet it still cost me less than $90 per pound produced and that's including all lighting and environmental controls along with nutrients and media, so what's your complaints? That someone isn't using your same nutrients line ? Did you hear me say anywhere that Jack's was shit ?
 
flipwon

flipwon

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jarvild said:
But yet it still cost me less than $90 per pound produced and that's including all lighting and environmental controls along with nutrients and media, so what's your complaints? That someone isn't using your same nutrients line ? Did you hear me say anywhere that Jack's was shit ?
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Whatd he say?! Get him!
 
Dr. Drake227

Dr. Drake227

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jarvild said:
But yet it still cost me less than $90 per pound produced and that's including all lighting and environmental controls along with nutrients and media, so what's your complaints? That someone isn't using your same nutrients line ? Did you hear me say anywhere that Jack's was shit ?
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im running 550 ppm rn on a mix I copied from advanced. Question is I see crystals on my leaves in veg and idk if its salt or trichs. Seems like they sweat out salts and im confused why people like dankemshunter run 3ec. My leaves are a perfect green, I boosted potassium nitrate to make it 750 ppm and it really made the salt looking stuff more pronounced so I backed off. Instead of arguing over brands and yall saying theyre just salts, why is athena not getting this with theirs at 3ec when I’ll get it at 1ec. Makes me feel like theyre cutting it with something lol I see no reason to add any more salts it looks like im maxed out to the point I might just run this straight through flower and see how it does. My mix costs me 140$ for 25lbs of each ingredient a total 100lbs. Learn this stuff jarvild its easy and all I did was find a bottled nute that worked perfect for me, run the percentages and used these salts to get the same ratios. Boom easy peasy
 
flipwon

flipwon

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Dr. Drake227 said:
im running 550 ppm rn on a mix I copied from advanced. Question is I see crystals on my leaves in veg and idk if its salt or trichs. Seems like they sweat out salts and im confused why people like dankemshunter run 3ec. My leaves are a perfect green, I boosted potassium nitrate to make it 750 ppm and it really made the salt looking stuff more pronounced so I backed off. Instead of arguing over brands and yall saying theyre just salts, why is athena not getting this with theirs at 3ec when I’ll get it at 1ec. Makes me feel like theyre cutting it with something lol I see no reason to add any more salts it looks like im maxed out to the point I might just run this straight through flower and see how it does. My mix costs me 140$ for 25lbs of each ingredient a total 100lbs. Learn this stuff jarvild its easy and all I did was find a bottled nute that worked perfect for me, run the percentages and used these salts to get the same ratios. Boom easy peasy
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Plants are not humans and do not transpire salt and sugars like we do. Just water.
 
Dr. Drake227

Dr. Drake227

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@bk78 im not joking. Ive tried your floraflex mix and it doesnt work for me. Room is 80f with 1k ppm co2 Tried 1g each, 1.5 each, 2 they looked half as good as they do right now. Flipwon im not 100% its salts but when I boosted it was so apparent I had to hit them with a scope to see if there was bugs or pm. I doubted it could be pm Ive never had a hint of mold ive had my dehuey go out and next morning all the walls dripping and so moist it broke my humidity/thermometer. Still never got pm and also when Ive ran 3ec for fun to see what happens I seen what I saw. Looks like someone sprinkles salt on the leaves and they feel dry. Im not trying to argue just want some knowledge any of you guys see that? I feel 550 is still pushing it for veg. Some of my best looking indo plants I was feeding 100ppm in ocean forest and tap. Im now using ro and the 550 ends up at 5.6 ph after feeding in coco it raises to 5.8. I was cutting ro with tap to raise ph but was getting calcium deficiencies, runoff was coming out 6.8
 
bk78

bk78

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Dr. Drake227 said:
@bk78 im not joking. Ive tried your floraflex mix and it doesnt work for me. Room is 80f with 1k ppm co2 Tried 1g each, 1.5 each, 2 they looked half as good as they do right now. Flipwon im not 100% its salts but when I boosted it was so apparent I had to hit them with a scope to see if there was bugs or pm. I doubted it could be pm Ive never had a hint of mold ive had my dehuey go out and next morning all the walls dripping and so moist it broke my humidity/thermometer. Still never got pm and also when Ive ran 3ec for fun to see what happens I seen what I saw. Looks like someone sprinkles salt on the leaves and they feel dry. Im not trying to argue just want some knowledge any of you guys see that? I feel 550 is still pushing it for veg. Some of my best looking indo plants I was feeding 100ppm in ocean forest and tap. Im now using ro and the 550 ends up at 5.6 ph after feeding in coco it raises to 5.8. I was cutting ro with tap to raise ph but was getting calcium deficiencies, runoff was coming out 6.8
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Can you post a pic of the salts your plants are sweating out?
 
Dr. Drake227

Dr. Drake227

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bk78 said:
You’re not foliar feeding are you?
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No sir the whole ph fiasco helped a lot. I plan on using dosers so I was trying to find a way to have a perfect ph. I wasnt leaving my ph pen, apera 60, submerged between uses so when I was taking readings it was saying 6.2 with the half ro, half tap. It wasnt tho in reality it was 6.6. Theyve been recovering great since that
 
flipwon

flipwon

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Dr. Drake227 said:
@bk78 im not joking. Ive tried your floraflex mix and it doesnt work for me. Room is 80f with 1k ppm co2 Tried 1g each, 1.5 each, 2 they looked half as good as they do right now. Flipwon im not 100% its salts but when I boosted it was so apparent I had to hit them with a scope to see if there was bugs or pm. I doubted it could be pm Ive never had a hint of mold ive had my dehuey go out and next morning all the walls dripping and so moist it broke my humidity/thermometer. Still never got pm and also when Ive ran 3ec for fun to see what happens I seen what I saw. Looks like someone sprinkles salt on the leaves and they feel dry. Im not trying to argue just want some knowledge any of you guys see that? I feel 550 is still pushing it for veg. Some of my best looking indo plants I was feeding 100ppm in ocean forest and tap. Im now using ro and the 550 ends up at 5.6 ph after feeding in coco it raises to 5.8. I was cutting ro with tap to raise ph but was getting calcium deficiencies, runoff was coming out 6.8
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Thats fine I'm just telling you that they don't do that is all, so there has to be another explanation.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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Dr. Drake227 said:
im running 550 ppm rn on a mix I copied from advanced. Question is I see crystals on my leaves in veg and idk if its salt or trichs. Seems like they sweat out salts and im confused why people like dankemshunter run 3ec. My leaves are a perfect green, I boosted potassium nitrate to make it 750 ppm and it really made the salt looking stuff more pronounced so I backed off. Instead of arguing over brands and yall saying theyre just salts, why is athena not getting this with theirs at 3ec when I’ll get it at 1ec. Makes me feel like theyre cutting it with something lol I see no reason to add any more salts it looks like im maxed out to the point I might just run this straight through flower and see how it does. My mix costs me 140$ for 25lbs of each ingredient a total 100lbs. Learn this stuff jarvild its easy and all I did was find a bottled nute that worked perfect for me, run the percentages and used these salts to get the same ratios. Boom easy peasy
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I'm not needing help with anything in my garden, been growing for 40 years and it doesn't matter what nutrients I use once you learn what the plants wants it's as simple as that,
 
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