Coco question.
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nuckyt
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Like a 50lb bag will fill 8 of them if that helps. It should usually tell on the bag. I switched to coco for the same reason but learn from my mistake and don't over feed
lol. Light feeding got me thisView attachment 2597341 a much healthier plant. I'm hooked on coco now I would get a little extra if i were you. Happy growing!Cronnoisseur
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not sure what the conversion is but the 5 kg brick I got has filled 6 3 gallon pots and I still have about half, maybe a little less of the brick left.
Miss.Rabbit
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A word of advice with coco...
After a month it will charge up and you need to FLUSH MONTHLY no exceptions. Otherwise you run the high risk of burning the shit out of your ladies! I love the coco though perfection!
p.s. Don't forget to add sweetlime (I usually do a 1tbs per gallon of medium) and perlite to the mix! Good luck!
After a month it will charge up and you need to FLUSH MONTHLY no exceptions. Otherwise you run the high risk of burning the shit out of your ladies! I love the coco though perfection!
p.s. Don't forget to add sweetlime (I usually do a 1tbs per gallon of medium) and perlite to the mix! Good luck!
Cronnoisseur
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Ive heard this too but I wonder if its as necessary if you are watering to 20-30% runoff every time?
Trousers
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If you are feeding properly you do not need to flush. Flushing coco (I take this to mean running a bunch of plain water through the coco) will stress your plants. If you must flush, give it low nutes. Coco is inert, just another form of hydroponics.. If you do not give it any nutes, the plant can not live.
If you are over feeding, then a flush wouldn't hurt, I guess.
I water to waste most of the time with much less nutes than people think they need.
In flower I have been feeding my blue Moonshine at about 500 ppm and it is loving it.
Check the ppm before you water and then check the ppm of the run off. (The ph of the run off is irrelevant)
If the run off is lower, the plant is eating. If it is higher, then the plant isn't eating as much as you are feeding.
The most common issue I see people have (soil or hydro) is over feeding. The recs on the bottle would not kill my plants, but would cause a lock out and most likely the plant would throw bananas.
I could easily grow great yielding plants with less than 50% of what GH recommends.
I run Lucas formula for coco and almost never feed full strength.
I keep the ph about 5.8 during veg and about 6.0 during flower.
If you are over feeding, then a flush wouldn't hurt, I guess.
I water to waste most of the time with much less nutes than people think they need.
In flower I have been feeding my blue Moonshine at about 500 ppm and it is loving it.
Check the ppm before you water and then check the ppm of the run off. (The ph of the run off is irrelevant)
If the run off is lower, the plant is eating. If it is higher, then the plant isn't eating as much as you are feeding.
The most common issue I see people have (soil or hydro) is over feeding. The recs on the bottle would not kill my plants, but would cause a lock out and most likely the plant would throw bananas.
I could easily grow great yielding plants with less than 50% of what GH recommends.
I run Lucas formula for coco and almost never feed full strength.
I keep the ph about 5.8 during veg and about 6.0 during flower.
Cronnoisseur
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Do you feed with nutes every time you water? Ive been feeding every other time I water with half what GH recommends, I use distilled water btw. The times I water with just distilled water I add 1/2-1 tsp of Cal mag plus so they are still getting a little something and to prevent the deficiencies Coco is known for.
Ive heard mixed thoughts about the flushing of coco with plain water stressing the plant so I have been hesitant to do any type of flush as of yet but Im at the point recommended to do it (about a month)....what to do what to do.
Miss.Rabbit
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This is correct i'm sorry for not being more specific! By flushing I mean running a solution of 200-300ppms; Tap water works well in my experience and I usually do a 2/1 water/coco "flush" monthly
I feed once a week with nutes and an extra feeding with azamax and if necessary blackstrap molasses 2tbs per gallon. You can also make up for the calcium deficiency in coco by adding roughly 1tbs of sweetlime per gallon of coco when you mix
you still occasionally need calmag but not very often.
nuckyt
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Good I'll stop flushing it then, it's a hassle but half say do half say don't. I feed half or a quarter of Canna A-B and a little Cal/Mag. Canna says feed A-B every watering through out the whole life of the plant.
Trousers
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Flushing stresses your plants, so of course I feed every time. Coco is inert. It holds nutes pretty well. If you are feeding properly, then flushing is not needed and will stress your plants.
Plain water in coco does not make sense at all. Coco is hydroponic. Hydroponic require nutes, period.
I have been feeding with GH Lucas Formula for coco, but at between 25 and 50% strength.
It depends on the plant. Measure you check ppm before you water and then check the runoff. If the ppm is lower, the plant is eating. If it is higher, you are setting your self up for lock out.
I have heard of people that do not have any runoff with coco and do fine.
Some use blumats with no run off.
hydrocropper420
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i kilo brick fills my 2 3 gallon pots, so i would get 2 kilos for 3 then some extras for needbe
lykarckstar420
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Will growing in a medium like fox farms or diff like soil make a huge yield difference for the cost. A huge bag of soil is lika $10 or so give or take as compared to coco
hydrocropper420
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hydro will always yield higher under the right growing environment, so the yield difference is more hydro vs. soil than what soils to use, but coco is cheap for the amount you get, i filled 2 3 gallon buckets, for $10, thats a whole grow
joe blow greenthumb
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Soil is the lowest yielding method unless its outdoors.
lykarckstar420
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well allright. I guess my 2nd grow will be with coco and not soil. Is it much harder than with soil ? I read that with coco using low nutes are key but also essential as the coco has no "built in" nutes as far as I know.
your questions have already been answered in this thread my friend.
hydrocropper420
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simple man, fill the pot with coco, mix your nutes to perfection according to the directions, get your ph at or between 5.6-6.0, no higher no lower, and feed them, coco has zero nutes, its only purpose is to hold the plant in place and hold the nutes youve fed it, or whatever kind of hydro feeding system you go with, youve seen mine, its very easy and gives ahell of a yield, i hope this is what you needed to hear man!!
lykarckstar420
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I do an for sure had that plan in mind given the coco use. I read to make sure you really dial back the nutes and not OVEr feed them , I think in soil you can get away with over feeding them more than you can in coco.... thats just what I have come to understand.
also with the soil i never bothered to check my PH , guess I will need a PH monitor and or a PPM tester... added $$$ but if i can get more than 182 grams of mostly clear trichs LOL and more dense , harder buds WHY the fuck not.
also with the soil i never bothered to check my PH , guess I will need a PH monitor and or a PPM tester... added $$$ but if i can get more than 182 grams of mostly clear trichs LOL and more dense , harder buds WHY the fuck not.
Cronnoisseur
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Hmm sounds like I need to start feeding every time...im guessing I should use half of what I've been using every other water if Im going to start feeding every time? Or do I keep it same strength?