coffee? good or bad

swedmf420

Member
:confused: just wondering if it is a good fertilizer or not. ive grown outdoors in ohio for 5 years each year ive got roughly a quarter pound off each plant. never bought seeds but i use seeds from dank buds not schwag. i normally use fox farms big bloom and tiger bloom but i wanna go full organic. the coffee doent seem to hurt the plants but i dontwant to ruin my babies. also im in florida now , would tht have any effect what i use? thank you
 

millie

Active Member
Meh it has a bit of N. I dont personally use it for my compost... i think you would be better off using grass clippings. Definately do a bit of research on how to make a good compost before trying to go all organic.
 

chewberto

Well-Known Member
I read that juicing organic fruits and veggies in conjunction with organic coffee enemas can cure cancer...
You tell me?
 

Nullis

Moderator
Most of the acidity in coffee is removed during brewing. Spent coffee grounds are only very slightly acidic (depending on the water used to brew) to neutral. Grounds contain more nitrogen than phosphorous or potassium, as well as some minerals. For composting, the grounds would actually be considered a "green" material due to the nitrogen content.

It is popular in composting and vermiculture and seems to be a preferred food of earthworms. You can add spent coffee grounds to compost along with other green materials such as grass clippings, kitchen wastes, and brown materials like autumn leaves, shredded newspaper, sphanum-peat, wood chips\shavings and small twigs, etc.
 

b.real

New Member
Most of the acidity in coffee is removed during brewing. Spent coffee grounds are only very slightly acidic (depending on the water used to brew) to neutral. Grounds contain more nitrogen than phosphorous or potassium, as well as some minerals. For composting, the grounds would actually be considered a "green" material due to the nitrogen content.

It is popular in composting and vermiculture and seems to be a preferred food of earthworms. You can add spent coffee grounds to compost along with other green materials such as grass clippings, kitchen wastes, and brown materials like autumn leaves, shredded newspaper, sphanum-peat, wood chips\shavings and small twigs, etc.
would it be better get coffee beans and grind them yourself? they would probably have more nutiritional value that way since they went through one less step of processing.

ill bet you that a seed has a lot more nutritional value than grass clippings.

to make a simple compost i use grass clippings, dried leaves, manure and i add myco to get my pile started.
 
Your better off with spent coffee grounds (ground coffee that has had hot water poured through it) Are all coffee grounds created equal? I went exotic last year with a special guatamalin import, that I think is the best there is for drinking. Used it and other organics for my corn and tomatos. They didn't turn out any better really then when I used Miracle Grow as fertilizer...
 

Nullis

Moderator
I see absolutely no point going out of your way to change your coffee-drinking habits or obtain beans exclusively for growing Cannabis. You shouldn't use fresh grounds because they will contain much higher levels of alkaloids that may have a negative effect (caffeine). It is just that coffee grounds are a very common organic by-product... ultimately it is organic matter.

Grass clippings actually have more nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium; probably other minerals as well, maybe with some exception. They are both nitrogen sources, but the grass clippings will undoubtedly be more abundant (and pragmatic) for composting than coffee grounds, unless you are getting spent grounds from a coffee shop.

Coffee grounds are convenient food for earthworms because they are already really ground up. But, just like grass clippings, banana peels, tealeaves, vegetable peels, etc. they need to be composted (thoroughly decayed by microbes) to get the most benefit from them.
 

b.real

New Member
alkaloids and caffeine are good for life processes.

by you telling me theres more alkaloids, thats a good thing, and an indication that its better than ground beans since:

Alkaloids are a group of naturally occurring chemical compounds that contain mostly basic nitrogen atoms. This group also includes some related compounds with neutral[SUP][2][/SUP] and even weakly acidic properties.[SUP][3][/SUP] Some synthetic compounds of similar structure are also attributed to alkaloids.[SUP][4][/SUP] In addition to carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen, alkaloids may also contain oxygen, sulfur and more rarely other elements such as chlorine, bromine, and phosphorus.[SUP][5]

all of these elements are good for plant growth, as well as the mildly acidic ph alkaloids offer. [/SUP]
 

Nullis

Moderator
:roll: They can also be quite toxic. Why don't you Google caffeine plant growth experiments, they've been done.

You see, just because something has "alkaloids" doesn't make it a good source of nitrogen, or anything else in this case. These are just compounds that feature nitrogen, carbon, are made by plants, and very typical affect animal physiology (nicotine, morphine, atropine). Sometimes they might feature an atom or two of some those other elements. This hardly indicates any of those elements will actually be available for uptake by the plants at all.

Plus coffee is freaking expensive. But, :roll: Whatever man.
 

b.real

New Member
You could be right, im not god, i dont understand such low level functions, but i do know that beans are a super high quality form of a lot of macro and micronutes for humans.
 

swedmf420

Member
Look im not a jacka$$. Like i said ive grown before. I use the coffee to water my plants i brew 3 table spoons with 3 cups of water then add that into agallon jug. Dilute that and use it as FOOD once a week my plants seem like they love it and show no discoloration nor droopyness. As for my soil i just use .10 .10 .10 bag soil nothing special. I might not be a pro at growing but all my buds have turned out very full and dense not that stringy airy bull$h!t. If my crops decide they no longer like the coffee ill just go back to fox farms products.
 

swedmf420

Member
Yeah but most people on here are jackwagons and dont understand. Im not using it as compost. Im using it as a fertilizer like adding it to my water and it seems like it does wonders so ill find out late october when them bad girls are ready to be dried and cured
 
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