the butane scares me. Its as if something is making me paranoid.
Compare these 2 buds. How do get this result
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I understand that we need to decarboxylate it in the oven. But what is the purpose of freezing it after the oven, then heating it again?
MerionMatt
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It's pretty easy but i can understand you're concern. I for one would love to be able and find that much Kief 
have you looked into a "Rosin Press?"
have you looked into a "Rosin Press?"
GroErr
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Not sure really, haven't seen any science on it. Supposed to bring out more cannabinoids is one thing I read in a couple of spots. I use that process and it works so I don't screw with it, could work without freezing just as well.
Try the method I use in a previous comment. Just a 4x4 tent should net you at least 50g from just trim.It's pretty easy but i can understand you're concern. I for one would love to be able and find that much Kief
I followed the recipe exactly but I'm not really feeling anything from the capsules. And in reading online a lot of other people are not getting good results.. This is probably because it's not fully decarboxylated. Is there a method to tell if the kief is fully decaboxylated before mixing it with the oils?Take that kief, use the attached recipe, make some 100mg caps and give every customer that buys your bud a couple of caps to try, they'll be back looking for those caps, they sell for $3.00 each in bulk
BobCajun
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Kief wouldn't be decarbed unless it was purposely heated. It would however be a good source of THCA, for those who want medicinal effects without the mental effects.
GroErr
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Yeah if you're not feeling anything then it's most likely not fully decarbed. If the kief is fresh and still has a lot of moisture that can happen, add another 5 minutes to the decarb and bake times, that should do it.
GroErr
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That's actually what that recipe calls for and works fine if the kief is dried/cured. I've noticed sometimes with fresh kief a little more time at that temp helps.
BobCajun
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Actually it seems odd that decarbing could take place when the resin is inside trich heads. How would the CO2 escape? Same would apply to weed. Apparently it does happen but wouldn't it have to burst the trichs like balloons? Just an oddity that came to mind.
BTW, I was reading a thing about stability of extracts and it showed that even at room temp in the air they only lose a little over 20% of the THC per year, so it's more stable than some might expect. They lose only slightly less, like about 1% less, when stored cold. Another thing is that it degrades considerably slower if the extract is passed through a column of charcoal before the solvent is evaporated. Granted, it's unlikely that it would be around for longer than a few months at most anyway.
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GroErr
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With sift or otherwise the quality of the starting material including potency is a variable you have to account for. In other words you're not going to get fire caps from shwagg or really old trim. I'm always working with fresh material within 3 months at most of harvest so never concerned about losing potency but definitely something to keep in mind with older stock.
Dr.Nick Riviera
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keif makes for GREAT rosin, just sayin.
If we weigh
To decarb you just have to break the carboxyl bond from the THC it doesn't necessarily have to escape the trichomes
GroErr
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Yeah, not sure of the science, I've been doing it for long enough to tell whether it's decarbed or not just by looking at it.
Worth mentioning, there's another variable people should check if decarbing or baking edibles, your oven temps. They can easily be off by as much as 25F-50F one way or the other. Good idea to check your oven with a cheap oven thermometer at intervals as they can fluctuate up/down if they're older elements. I had to offset mine (it's programmable) when I had the main coil blow on me, the new one was running ~15F higher than what the actual temps were.
BobCajun
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Well it does produce CO2 gas. In fact with extracts you can visually monitor if it's done or not by if it's still bubbling or not. Maybe the amount of THC in a trichome is so small that it just doesn't make much pressure, or maybe trichs are stronger than one might imagine and can hold it in until it gradually dissipates through the outer membrane. What I would expect to happen though would be like popcorn, microscopic popcorn that is.
What are good temps and times to ensure its decarbed?
GroErr
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I mentioned earlier it depends on what I'm running. If I have cured/dried the kief for a bit 250F for 30-35 minutes tends to work fine. If it's fresh I'll bump it up to 255F and run it 35-40 minutes. Once you get it down you can play a bit with the temp and time on the 2nd/3rd cooks. For instance bumping up the time by 5 minutes and 225F will typically make it heavier, good with heavy indicas for sleeping pills.