Comparing - Air and Water - Cure (w/pics)

GreenphoeniX

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I don't know whether acid or basic would be better or worse but I have to think one of those would be bad, if not both. Sticking to 7.0 is smart until someone with some more biochem background knows better.
Definitely agree with that. However it is good to keep in mind that seen as THC is not water soluble it is unlikely to have an effect on that at all. But acidic or basic (alkaline) pH could effect the amount and/or rate that the 'bad' shite is extracted from the bud.
As stated, it may have more of an effect than that but at this stage it is unknown to me.

Cheers.
 

RKT

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I think i will definitely give that a try. Thanks! But my bud has a few seeds in it. Would a water cure still work or would the seeds rot?? And when yo take it out of the water to dry should i hang dry it with a fan on it?? Thanks again!
 

HazeyWorld420

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Has anyone ever tried to water your plants or cook with the water that you cure it with? I wonder if it would do anything good?
 

GreenphoeniX

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I think i will definitely give that a try. Thanks! But my bud has a few seeds in it. Would a water cure still work or would the seeds rot?? And when yo take it out of the water to dry should i hang dry it with a fan on it?? Thanks again!
You can water cure seeded bud, but yes it will fuck the seeds up. So if you want to actually use those seeds then do not water cure.

Has anyone ever tried to water your plants or cook with the water that you cure it with? I wonder if it would do anything good?
THC is not water soluble, that's how water curing works, the THC is left on the plant matter, uneffected, so the water wouldn't really do anything coz it would have almost 0% THC in it, apart from the odd crystal that dropped off but that wouldn't even be noticable.
 

Singularity

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1 gram of water cured bud is more potent than air cured because of the extra weight loss with the process, but if you took 2 identical samples of 10 grams of wet bud just trimmed and off the plant - would the end product of 1.5 grams of water cured bud be more potent than the 2.5 grams of air cured - would it contain more THC (could you get more highs)?

The reason I ask this is THC degrades quicker in air than in water, so it follows that there should be more THC in the same wet size sample of water cured than air cured. If there is a difference I imagine it's pretty small.

1. Do you guys find that the clorine in the tap water slows curing? Do you let your water sit 24 hours, the same as your plant water, or take it right from the tap?

2. Best water temperature?

3. Water to bud ratio - 3:1 or 4:1 - is that for osmosis for the terpins, chlorophyl and sugars or for the decarboxylation? I'd like to keep a bit more flavor and thought reducing the water:bud ration might help. I saw in Greenphonix's How To thread that he had a jar that was barely big enough for the bud.
 

GreenphoeniX

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1. Do you guys find that the clorine in the tap water slows curing? Do you let your water sit 24 hours, the same as your plant water, or take it right from the tap?

2. Best water temperature?

3. Water to bud ratio - 3:1 or 4:1 - is that for osmosis for the terpins, chlorophyl and sugars or for the decarboxylation? I'd like to keep a bit more flavor and thought reducing the water:bud ration might help. I saw in Greenphonix's How To thread that he had a jar that was barely big enough for the bud.
1 - I use water out the dehumidifier collection container or I run air (air stones) through tap water for 24 hours before using it, although I'm pretty sure the chlorine has little to no effect on the THC itself, I'd rather not be smoking any chlorine that could possibly be left behind.

2 - Temp doesn't matter in my experience, as long as it's not boiling haha, and if it's ice cold I suppose crystals would become more fragile and fall off easier.

3 - Water ti bud ratio: Fill your container with as much bud as is possible, then fill with water! :D ... The bud will absorb some water, and u'd be surprised at how much water will go in there. When using jars it's easier to cram the bud in there so it doesn't float (which it will do at first, until it absorbs more water). WHen using a larger container you can sink it with a wire mesh screen or something if you want, then you could have a water to bud ratio of your choice. I'd say as long as 50% - 80% of it's bud, it'll work fine, remember, there's a lot of spaces in bud that water can get to, just because your bud fills a container, doesn't mean water can't get into the air pockets etc. and seen as your changing the water everyday, as the bud shrinks from the water cure, there will be more space for water.

Cheers!
 

BudHawkins420

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good shit dude...couldnt you sell the water cured for a higher price because doesnt water curing make your buds more potent?
 

ultimate procrastinator

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good shit dude...couldnt you sell the water cured for a higher price because doesnt water curing make your buds more potent?
sure you could, its just that water curing bud is relatively never seen outside of personal grows and it may be tough to make people realize that you are not trying to rip them off. And also you'd have to find out the exact weight ratio so you know the equivalent rate.
 

Gillagansmoker420

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So i was thinking if you boil the water that you give your plant let it cool and then water your plant cause wouldnt all the cemicals get boiled out of the water?
 

GreenphoeniX

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sure you could, its just that water curing bud is relatively never seen outside of personal grows and it may be tough to make people realize that you are not trying to rip them off. And also you'd have to find out the exact weight ratio so you know the equivalent rate.
The 'exact' weight ratio is 15% of wet weight when water cured as a pose to 25% of dry weight when air cured.

E.g - you have 100 grams of wet bud... You air cure it, dry weight comes out as about 25 grams (25% of 100 grams)... If you water cure 100 grams wet bud, the dry weight will be around 15 grams (15% of 100 grams).

Water cured bud typically loses 85% of it's weight from jst chopped wet weight to dry weight.

Like the other dude said though, it may be hard to convince people your not ripping them off, however some people are willing to pay extra just coz it looks different and they think it's some rare exotic bud, but in my area people get what they're given, they don't like it, they can get their shit somewhere else.

So i was thinking if you boil the water that you give your plant let it cool and then water your plant cause wouldnt all the cemicals get boiled out of the water?
Do you mean just to recycle the water? I guess you could do that, I mean you could just get fresh water from somewhere, but if your into your recycling or water's hard to come by sometimes than I don't see why that wouldn't work mate.
 

Singularity

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I have to update my earlier post, after a couple of months of water curing experience.

My confession:

I find myself clipping buds every morning to dry on my ballast so I can have something enjoyable to vaporize that night.

Water curing makes great potent bud, quickly and removes the smell and taste for cooking and clandestineness for smoking ... but it sure sucks to vaporize/smoke.

I'm sure that I'll water cure some bud every harvest for a quick vap or cooking, but now that I have several plants harvested at the same time I'm air curing for the enjoyment of the taste and smell.

bongsmilie
 

flabbyone

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Many years ago, probably like 35 or 40 years ago, I had a kilo of Columbian Red Bud. I took half a K and bagged it for sale and tossed the rest of it into the washing machine cause I was in a hurry to go somewhere.
When I came home, I found the wife doing a load of laundry.
when asked what she did with the pot, she says "What pot?"
I immediately tossed open the washing machine door and started tossing out cloths until I found the huge, heavy, soggy bag of pot. I now had like 5 lbs of wet pot with suds.
I rinsed it off, put it in a cardboard box and set it in the yard to dry. Once it was dry enough to smoke, I tried it out and it was GREAT! I mean it was a whole lot better then the original cured red bud was and I increased the amount of pot that I had form a half a kilo or so to almost a kilo with the weight of the water.
I offered both the original cured pot or the wetter yet stronger pot and almost always people wanted the wetter pot.
My conclusion at that time was that the water and detergents washed out the almost narcotic high of the dry pot that would wipe you out and put you to sleep into a pot that made you very high but you wanted to do things on. I think it washed out the cannabinol as it is water soluble and left the THC which is not water soluble.
I have tried this experiment several times after this when I had pot that would make you more tired then high. It seems to really work for that, but now, in my old age and in chronic pain I have grown to like the knock out punch of the Cannabinol/THC combo and I now look for that type of product.
I don't know how much the washing detergent has to do with the final product, but I never used it when I would "wash" my pot.
 

GreenphoeniX

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Water curing makes great potent bud, quickly and removes the smell and taste for cooking and clandestineness for smoking ... but it sure sucks to vaporize/smoke
Why do you say it makes it suck to smoke?
Just the fact the taste and smell is mostly gone?
 

happyface

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this is a good thread man +reps...i will be trying this on a few of my buds.quick question.....when you let it sit for 7 days do you leave a lid with holes in it ON???
great tread tho.
happy growings.
 

Singularity

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"when you let it sit for 7 days do you leave a lid with holes in it ON???"

You've got to let the gasses vent - one hole or leaving the top cracked will do. Change water every day, I let my tap water sit for 24 hours to get rid of clorine and let the temp get to room temperature.

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1. "Why do you say it makes it suck to smoke?"

See question 2.

2. "Just the fact the taste and smell is mostly gone?"

Yes.

Tastes like hay, I find that I crave the dank taste for enjoyment. High is great with a good water cure though.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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good post ...i wont be trying this , as its that 'smell' that i love about smoking the herb for me , but i can see why people would use this method .
 

GreenphoeniX

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this is a good thread man +reps...i will be trying this on a few of my buds.quick question.....when you let it sit for 7 days do you leave a lid with holes in it ON???
great tread tho.
happy growings.
What 'Singularity' said pretty much, you want the shit that comes out of the bud to evaporate so having holes in the lid, or no lid at all is what you want. I only put a lid with holes in it on to drain the water out without losing bud when doing the daily water change, the rest of the time I leave the lid off.

1. "Why do you say it makes it suck to smoke?"

See question 2.

2. "Just the fact the taste and smell is mostly gone?"

Yes.

Tastes like hay, I find that I crave the dank taste for enjoyment. High is great with a good water cure though.
Hahaha, fair call mate! Personal preference. Can see why it's good for bad tasting bud or people who don't like the taste of 'standard' bud though aye! :D

good post ...i wont be trying this , as its that 'smell' that i love about smoking the herb for me , but i can see why people would use this method .
Yea mate, up to you. I'm just putting the info out there for people who want it!

See my How to Water Cure thread too if you haven't already fellas... and fella-ettes :) https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/102641-greenx-how-tos-how-water.html

Cheers All!
 
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