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DoubleAtotheRON

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aaron have u ran promix of anything from them I've heard good things I'm not sure.
No, we haven’t.. just BM7 and/or C25. Only reason I like them is cost, and the fact that they are clean slate mediums with no amendments. But!, always in the hunt for something better as always.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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But it is research done by the manufacturer.
And maybe I'm a bit too suspicious, but I don't always have a lot of faith in that.
Not because they lie or withhold the truth.
But because they often don't do proper research.
Or because there are other factors that influence the research.

I would love to see a study done by an independent institution under scientific supervision.
I'm not saying the device doesn't do what the manufacturer says it does.
But I would still like to see a little more evidence concerning the botrytis and mildew.

Bothrytis and mildew costs the agricultural industry several millions of Dollars/Euro's each year.
I just wonder why nobody came up with a similar device in all these years?
If they would have invented it last month... ok. But you are saying that they are doing tests with it for many years.

There is research done on the use of ozone for preventing diseases and the results are not clear yet. Manufacturers say of course they do work, but scientists say there is no finale conclusion yet. Ozon for example also can have influences on other factors (for example breaking down iron chelates).
It is an interesting field, and I welcome every company that is battling it.


It's nice that your clothes smell fresh. :)
But I wouldn't buy the device for that. In addition, there are also cheaper ozone devices for sale. But why hide the scent from a legitimate company? I would only buy the device to prevent botrytis and mildew.
But I think it is still too expensive for that.
Let me be more correct: If it would prevent botrytis and mildew, it is not too expensive. Not at all.
But for a device that in my eyes has not proved itself in a scientific way, it is.
Maybe it is too expensive for what you get, but that is irrelevant. Research and development cost a lot of money.
It is also not yet available in the European market.
I can buy it in the US of course, but I would like local warranties under EU law and service close by. Not across the ocean.
It’s still to be determined of course. We will see if we have any mold at the end of this run. I did notice that my evap cooler is staying much cleaner since the install. No funk or gunk building up on the tray like it normally does.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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On this 6th run at the end of week 6 veg and they seem to be lovin’ all that’s going on. Environment is set as you see on the Spartan, and in the green on Vpd. .. not that I follow it that strictly, but it seems to be doing well. Gonna set up the frame in the next couple of days, we got a lot of construction going on, .. a new 30x40 building, expanding the current building to an office/packaging area, a bigger dry room that we can use as storage as well. We both believe we have COVID-19, and it’s a struggle to get the inventory fed without passing out. ... on the mend tho, I’m getting better every day, but the first 7 days was hell.. luckily we had just flushed and fed everything before we went down for the count. If we don’t make it out of here alive, all my stuff goes to..A17AAFFE-0728-40BA-BC93-65159CD062E5.jpeg1BDBCE09-40D6-4ED2-ADCD-C8405E60835F.jpeg939976F5-313C-4C76-90A3-21FB20AA4EDE.jpeg
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Day 3 after the flip. 1200ppm of CO2 is really getting the job done. Great investment!.. other than that, feeling strong today. Got a lot of shit done. Starting to feed in Tiger Bloom, Cal Mag and Mammoth P at 900 ppm to begin with. Next feeding, I’ll raise that up to~1200 ppm and see how that does. Otherwise, I tuck and tie down as needed for training as they stretch every day.


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Keesje

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Your room looks like everybody on this forum would like to have it: Big and clean!

I think that in the future you could change to nutes from professionals like Peters or Yara.
Way cheaper, and you can adjust the nutrition and different elements much better to the needs of your plants and your strains.

Many of those cannabis nutes manufacturers buy from the big boys, repackage it and put a fancy label on it. Especially with (proven) substances such as silicium. Aptus charges a few hundred bucks for a liter for stuff that is widely available for around $ 10 a liter. (Silicate)
You can buy it for around $ 100 for 4 or 5 gallons (at least where I live) from Yara. It is called Sikal. You can also buy it as a foliar spray from Yara. Called Actisil. These are just examples, but every large manufacturer of professional nutrient has it.

Anecdote: I did a test with Actisil on my clones.
A liter of Actisil is around $ 100 perhaps. But you have to dilute it 1 in 1000. So you can make 1000 liters of foliar spray with 1 liter.
I had 2 Cloners.
One sprayed with Actisil (I did 10 ml in a liter of water, which is too much. 1 ml in a liter is enough) and the other cloner just water.
I could see significant better results with the clones sprayed with Actisil.
This is a test done by an institute.
And this is also a nice read.
Problem is that I can't find Actisil for sale in the USA. Weird.

Long story, sorry. Just trying to help fellow growers out. :)

@DoubleAtotheRON :As long as the stuff and nutes you now use work, don't change them too fast.
If you change too many things at the same time, at a certain point you no longer know which change benefited the result and which affected the result.
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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Your room looks like everybody on this forum would like to have it: Big and clean!

I think that in the future you could change to nutes from professionals like Peters or Yara.
Way cheaper, and you can adjust the nutrition and different elements much better to the needs of your plants and your strains.

Many of those cannabis nutes manufacturers buy from the big boys, repackage it and put a fancy label on it. Especially with (proven) substances such as silicium. Aptus charges a few hundred bucks for a liter for stuff that is widely available for around $ 10 a liter. (Silicate)
You can buy it for around $ 100 for 4 or 5 gallons (at least where I live) from Yara. It is called Sikal. You can also buy it as a foliar spray from Yara. Called Actisil. These are just examples, but every large manufacturer of professional nutrient has it.

Anecdote: I did a test with Actisil on my clones.
A liter of Actisil is around $ 100 perhaps. But you have to dilute it 1 in 1000. So you can make 1000 liters of foliar spray with 1 liter.
I had 2 Cloners.
One sprayed with Actisil (I did 10 ml in a liter of water, which is too much. 1 ml in a liter is enough) and the other cloner just water.
I could see significant better results with the clones sprayed with Actisil.
This is a test done by an institute.
And this is also a nice read.
Problem is that I can't find Actisil for sale in the USA. Weird.

Long story, sorry. Just trying to help fellow growers out. :)

@DoubleAtotheRON :As long as the stuff and nutes you now use work, don't change them too fast.
If you change too many things at the same time, at a certain point you no longer know which change benefited the result and which affected the result.
Thanks! and thanks for all the info!.. this feed schedule is the same that I have done for the past couple of years, but this is only my second time to do it with CO2. I just don’t know if 1200ppm feed is going to be enough yet.. gonna keep an eye on them. I’ve not nute burned anything yet, but I’ve flown very close to the sun at points lol!
 

Keesje

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Not sure if you already use any silicon product.
@Renfro does (I think)
Of all the 'amazing products' this is perhaps the only one that has a proven and scientific background.
It helps roots and stems to become stronger for example, and in that way plants are also less vulnerable for bud rot and mildew.
 
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