Concerned i deleafed too early

JoeBlow5823

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Not according to what has been documented online, various websites. Sorry but I'll believe a more collaborative source compared to yourself
I could pull up more but just google "giant weed plants"
 

Kingkongbud

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For sure, already seen them. They are not common nor anywhere near the average grow. Like i said, for kong strain as an example, under perfect conditions you can get up to the 700's. Any other talk is for amateurs, pipe dreamers or tge rare case where people are able to invest many thousands for what you are talking when it comes to indoor growing
 

Kingkongbud

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Let us help the less fortunate grower instead of bragging
I'm not sure how much you smoke but that's only 25 square foot. Over here that would be gone up in smoke in maybe 2 months just saying, but thats because there's more than just one toker lol. I'm curious, what is your head space. I'm only able to get 7 foot here and I'm just lucky only one is about to hit the ceiling. The buds just end up bunching up up there lol, I prefer this over supercropping. To each their own.
 

iDab666

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IMO tuck as many as you can for as long as you can until it’s necessary to “SELECTIVELY DEFOLIATE” for light penetration or to stop bud sites from being shaded out .Or of leaves are laying on each other and you can’t move away from one another [no space].
 

P10p

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Only deleaf your plant according to its leaves deteriorating naturally, diseased or wind burned. You should not cut more than 1 fan leaf and a time unless they are the very bottom ones near the cotyledons, then up to 3 if they are old and show signs of yellow or dry crisp when feeling them. If your leaves are yellowing more than 2 leaves or 3 every several days, you have a problem with your plants health.if the leaves are not yellowing from the bottom up first, you've got a problem with your plants health. Here are my latest 3 King kong strains. 2 are hermie, but I have enough experience to manage them decently. I don't mind hermie because the advantage is they usually grow bigger and with massive top buds if you give them enough light up there. But even lower buds if you wnt them to get bigger too. When plants are tall, its even more important to have lower lights because of the limited range of high quality light. You can see the range with your hand, its usually lower than what light sellers claim. The shortest one is the only pure female, so far. The other relatively short one at the far end is hardly hermie, and the center tallest one is still a manageable hermie but starting to get annoying. I just trimmed a massive lower fan leaf on the center hermie, but I only trim right during watering time because cutting or injuring the plant helps it transpire, it also helps air get to the soil especially if they grow leafy like mine. Watering is best when the plant transpires more than usual and always cut early in the morning and try to keep waterings no later than early afternoon.
Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
 
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Kingkongbud

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Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
Actually, only 1 is tall and I actually love the tallest hermie. It no longer is making balls, i remove them ahead of time and these are only 3 out of many I've grown in the past. But its easy to make faceless assumptions, its all good, I make them too at times. Here's a pic of the tallest king kong just starting to yellow normally, bottom up. I let them get at least half yellow before I deleaf it. The other 2 are much shorter and therefore have much stronger female genetics. Also, what you call lanky has always turned out top quality buds just like what comes out of the legal dispensary except not as dry when I finish with it.
 

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Kingkongbud

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Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
Another thing not sure I ever said 3 herms. But if you have deep experience with weed, you'll know there's levels of hermaphroditing if that is, only to do with genetics. When I see that it's too strong in the growth, I dont even take the chance for the balls to get big, I chop it down.
 

Kingkongbud

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Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
The strong hermie actually has 3 times the flowers and 3 times the thickness given it was started and flowered at the same time and same strain. The medium height plant only made a few balls and never returned in over a week. Ive had this happen several times before. And the shortest one is pure female, well into 2 weeks flowering and no balls. They were all grown under exact same conditions. So I know it's the difference in genetics
 

Kingkongbud

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Another thing not sure I ever said 3 herms. But if you have deep experience with weed, you'll know there's levels of hermaphroditing if that is, only to do with genetics. When I see that it's too strong in the growth, I dont even take the chance for the balls to get big, I chop it down.
The strong hermie actually has 3 times the flowers and 3 times the thickness given it was started and flowered at the same time and same strain. The medium height plant only made a few balls and never returned in over a week. Ive had this happen several times before. And the shortest one is pure female, well into 2 weeks flowering and no balls. They were all grown under exact same conditions. So I know it's the difference in genetics
The strong hermie actually has 3 times the flowers and 3 times the thickness given it was started and flowered at the same time and same strain. The medium height plant only made a few balls and never returned in over a week. Ive had this happen several times before. And the shortest one is pure female, well into 2 weeks flowering and no balls. They were all grown under exact same conditions. So I know it's the difference in genetics
Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
People who know a lot about weed know how to maintain hermies and whether they're even worth it depending how strong of hermie they are. Don't just take it from me though, there are articles online which explain the science in this. Its not complicated
 

Kingkongbud

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IMO tuck as many as you can for as long as you can until it’s necessary to “SELECTIVELY DEFOLIATE” for light penetration or to stop bud sites from being shaded out .Or of leaves are laying on each other and you can’t move away from one another [no space].
Or due to lack of air reaching the soil particularly when the plant gets big and causes soil to stay wet too long. I always deleaf right when I water since the plant increases transpiration when you cut it, this is a good time to water it. Its also best to deleaf, in the morning. I don't even like the word deleaf, since it sounds too intense. I prefer cuttings. 1, 2 or 3 at once, no more than that.
 

Spazz24

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This number means nothing. People pull 4-5 pounds off single indoor plants. Just a matter of how much time you spend in veg and how much light and space you have.
It was out of a 2x4 tent with 1 hlg 320xl rspec light. I veg for a 1-2 months. That run I vegged roughly a little over a month and a half.
 
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Spazz24

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Just upgraded to a 4x8x7 tent myself. Once these in house genetics terple are finished I’m taking the 2x4 down and getting the big tent up. Haven’t decided on lighting yet. Been looking into these Verta8 lights.
 

Kingkongbud

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It was out of a 2x4 tent with 1 hlg 320xl rspec light. I veg for a 1-2 months. That run I vegged roughly a little over a month and a half.
Here's the 3 I'm growing. They are 1 month veg and around 1 month flower. The center one flowered way faster than the other 2 and was is most hermie. It is also losing its bottom leaves sooner but that's because its way taller. This is about 1000w layered setup. These are kingkongbud
 

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JoeBlow5823

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Here's the 3 I'm growing. They are 1 month veg and around 1 month flower. The center one flowered way faster than the other 2 and was is most hermie. It is also losing its bottom leaves sooner but that's because its way taller. This is about 1000w layered setup. These are kingkongbud
Not trying to make this a personal attack but you have got a lot of learning to do man.
This is what 1000w can do when you have half a clue what you are doing.... (my second grow ever)IMG_4158.JPG
 

Kingkongbud

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Not trying to make this a personal attack but you have got a lot of learning to do man.
This is what 1000w can do when you have half a clue what you are doing.... (my second grow ever)View attachment 4534883
I have perfect clue what i am doing and the training you have done which overall time takes much longer. To each their own. Some farmers believe in softer training and others none at at. It is only you disrespecting those growers who also have excellent end results, some way better than yours. What you had not considered as do most too quick to post is my area being used would not handle the width of any more plants in that narrow area without ninja crawling my way into it and i dont appreciate watering with leaves in my face. Not everyone has the growing area YOU are using and so we should be mindful that people can certainly grow good weed spending thousands less in initial costs than you, and if that's what they want to do, why disrespect that as you did?
 

Wattzzup

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Not trying to be rude but you shouldn't be giving advice based on those plants. 3 herms and all super tall and lanky. No offence.
This was my thought. You clearly stressed 2 out of 3 plants enough to hermie. So it’s kind of hard to keep reading after that line. I kept going but it didn’t get any better.
 
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