Consequences for Opporating without Business License Incorporation etc!

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iwantmedibud

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What happens if I get caught as a delivery service opporating without a buissness licene, incorporation, DBA, sellers permit separate bank account etc. I will only sell to 215 holders but I cant afford all the legal stuff, at least not at first. Am I facing a cease and assist order, fine, jail time, rape you in the ass prison time?
 
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iwantmedibud

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How so? What responsibility do they have? How would they know, or be responsible for knowing? I have never asked to see all of my collectives legal paperwork! You have?
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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If you cant afford a business license you shouldn't be out driving around? do you have car insurance? they will give a business license to just about anyone and they are only like 75 dollars. what kind of business or delivery service cant cough up 75 dollars to make themselves legal? You can do it all online! you don't even have to get off your lazy a**. I feel bad for the people you want to supply, If you cant afford 75 dollars they probably aren't going to be getting that good of a deal! That's just what everyone needs! another kid that knows nothing about it, trying to pay the bills reselling his meds! I bet you'll be like a few ads i've seen selling only eights. LOL! Your other posts say you are new to your area and don't even have a grow setup, so that means you are going to be reselling meds and if you cant come up with the cash for a business license you don't have much money to pick up, so you'll probably be picking up ounces or less and wont be selling big sacks. plus the fact that people don't really like outsiders in your new area I don't think you will get much business!

http://www.ehow.com/how_5025048_california-business-license.html
 
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iwantmedibud

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No nuts?You clearly know nothing about business! You don't just need a business license to start a delivery service ($50 here). You need to incorporate $1,000, plus you need a permit from the chief of police in Redding 700$, plus you need a building, as you cant run a mmj delivery service in Redding from your home, (.005% of Redding is zoned for it) $5,000, plus you need a sellers permit FREE, plus a fictitious business name $35, plus business cards, fliers, labels and pay to post on weed maps and CA NORML $200. Plus you think I need to start with pounds 6,000 for2. Plus gas and GPS $200. Plus doc u pen $200. That is $13,380!!!! Over 6,785 just to be legal! Not $75. Most people start of small. Eventually I would be legal and have a variety of pot.

99% of people only want 2-4 eights anyway and if they needed more I could just go get it for them! And people would be getting A GOOD DEAL $50 for an eight of the bomb, like I have payed since I was a teen and like most places! How would they not be getting a good deal? Most vendors on weed maps sell oz for $200 I sell them in eights for $50 make $200 profit then go by two oz. How would my customers know and or care, they are getting the same pot they would at the same price as any collective, delivered free! Most collectives buy from vendors. Many successful delivery devices only sell 1 or 2 different variety's of pot, watch the medical marijuana boot camp videos on you tube, they talk about it there. I would not be Reselling my meds, as if I would go to a club and buy weed to resell. I buy from vendors, mostly growers. Like most business, the people who produce a product sell it for WHOLESALE to retailers who sell it for RETAIL price! If someone wanted an oz or qp they could just go to the vendors ( look on weed maps).If you want a 5 gal bucket of BBQ sauce you can go to Costco and get it for a cheaper price than at a traditional grocery store. However most people are living pay check to paycheck and can't afford hundreds of dollars all at once to buy there meds, plus who want a 5 gal bucket of BBQ sauce?

PLEASE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT RESPOND TO THIS POST! DON'T TELL ME ALL YOU NEED IS A BUSINESS LICENSE TO OPEN A COLLECTIVE, THAT IS JUST FUNNY.
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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iwantmedibud said:
No nuts?You clearly know nothing about business! You don't just need a business license to start a delivery service ($50 here). You need to incorporate $1,000, plus you need a permit from the chief of police in Redding 700$, plus you need a building, as you cant run a mmj delivery service in Redding from your home, (.005% of Redding is zoned for it) $5,000, plus you need a sellers permit FREE, plus a fictitious business name $35, plus business cards, fliers, labels and pay to post on weed maps and CA NORML $200. Plus you think I need to start with pounds 6,000 for2. Plus gas and GPS $200. Plus doc u pen $200. That is $13,380!!!! Over 6,785 just to be legal! Not $75. Most people start of small. Eventually I would be legal and have a variety of pot.

99% of people only want 2-4 eights anyway and if they needed more I could just go get it for them! And people would be getting A GOOD DEAL $50 for an eight of the bomb, like I have payed since I was a teen and like most places! How would they not be getting a good deal? Most vendors on weed maps sell oz for $200 I sell them in eights for $50 make $200 profit then go by two oz. How would my customers know and or care, they are getting the same pot they would at the same price as any collective, delivered free! Most collectives buy from vendors. Many successful delivery devices only sell 1 or 2 different variety's of pot, watch the medical marijuana boot camp videos on you tube, they talk about it there. I would not be Reselling my meds, as if I would go to a club and buy weed to resell. I buy from vendors, mostly growers. Like most business, the people who produce a product sell it for WHOLESALE to retailers who sell it for RETAIL price! If someone wanted an oz or qp they could just go to the vendors ( look on weed maps).If you want a 5 gal bucket of BBQ sauce you can go to Costco and get it for a cheaper price than at a traditional grocery store. However most people are living pay check to paycheck and can't afford hundreds of dollars all at once to buy there meds, plus who want a 5 gal bucket of BBQ sauce?

PLEASE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT RESPOND TO THIS POST! DON'T TELL ME ALL YOU NEED IS A BUSINESS LICENSE TO OPEN A COLLECTIVE, THAT IS JUST FUNNY.
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I'm glad you're a dumbs*** and will never actually open one! There are plenty of small delivery services that would never have that kind of money to start. If redding makes you go through that extra shit that is because they don't want dipshits like you there! so 5700 of you "6785" is just because of your stupid city rules! of course I'm not going to be up on every cities rules! And the state of california isn't going to charge 1000 to incorporate a non-profit! http://california-incorporation.legalspring.com/Cost-to-Incorporate-in-California.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_(business)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation
maybe you should learn a few things! give up the pipe dreams and move on to something that will actually get you out of the trailer park! Yeah you said in your other post it's not nice to make fun of people in trailer parks, well I think it is! the show trailer park boys is very funny! Come to think of it you are really starting to remind me of one of them! you could always grow your moms in the broken down car next to your "luxurious RV"! lol!
[video=youtube;dK9FVB9hLQE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK9FVB9hLQE&playnext=1&list=PLF300FCD400BA2301[/video]
 
1gamma45

1gamma45

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DBAs should be a simple filling fee at your city clerks office. After that you really dont need anthing else unless you want protection and posable buisness credit or plan on growing to the point were you will have stock holders and a board aside from the leagal protection of your personal property there is no real need to go beyond a DBA unless your busness reqs some other licincening and or insurance.

My DBA was 50$ I think it was no big deal. And on top of that it extreamly easy to form a CO. or LLC on your own. Dont buy the hype unless again your some huge major CO with C.E.O. and stuff its way more then you need. Unless you plan on getting sued at some point an LLC or CO will portect your personal stuff. Otherwise if your not your just looking at getting taxed out the wazzoo. IE I didnt do any buisness lastyear due to an injury I still owed the Fed almost 1300.00$ in taxes cause I have A Corp.


I would start with your own state google search and call or go talk to you City clerk.
 
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iwantmedibud

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In the state of California in Redding you must be incorporated to LEGALY be a cooperative. No you can not run a delivery service from your home, "a home based business" is not allowed for medical marijuana collectives, it is illegal here in Redding! You are getting your facts from out of my state or county, not the city of Redding. Everywhere is different and has a unique set of laws and regulations! You cant go to some website and expect for it to apply to your city, county and state! Call the city of Redding permit division and they will confirm everything I have told you.
 
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Fadeleaf Farms

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I'm not a legal expert (sorry) but I have researched doing something similar to what I think you're talking about doing and I have worked for a legit medical marijuana delivery service and dealt with some other people working in the industry so maybe my observations will be helpful to you.

It seems to me that police (local level especially) lump marijuana business people into one of two catagories: You're either an upstanding citizen with a full array of properly filled out forms and paper work and you're providing a valuable medical service to your community (with the communities support), OR your a drug dealer and they can and will treat you as such.

There is huge fat steaming piles of "grey area" written into the laws in CA right now and I think everyone involved on both sides of the issue is aware of the problem. Until there is a better solution, it looks to me like the way things seem to turn out for most people who get in trouble is that those that are able to prove that they've done everything they can to comply with the laws to the fullest extent they can and that they are a contributing and positive force in their community are left alone and able to run successful businesses. Those that can't prove they've done everything they could to be legit, are treated as drug dealers by and usually end up locked up or at least in a world of hurt. And using the expenses and complicatedness of the system as your excuse for non compliance wont work, especially since your non-compliance could be potentially putting your patients at risk and many government, police and lawmaker types would even argue that "your non-compliance creates danger for the community at large." (regardless of how silly that argument might be, I sure wouldnt want anyone thinking/talking of me as a "danger to the community" come trial time...)

In other words, from what I've seen, In the eyes of the law:

following all the laws and getting all the right paper work makes you a legit medical business person and you're usually treated as such. (which hopefully means a successful legit business)

not following all the laws andnot getting all the right paper work makes you a drug dealer and you're usually treated as such. (which usually means prison)
 
alotaball

alotaball

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Really your worried about your delivery business.. you cant even spell.. Take some time .. do things the right way! Medical MMJ is not a way for half ass dealers to pretend to be caregivers or providers.. just makes all the people doing the actual leg work look bad. Sorry if this seems insulting but I hate all of these half ass providers.. If you wont take the time to fulfill legal process.. then why would I want to trust you with my meds? How much effort are you going to put into your product?
 
d.s.m.

d.s.m.

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iwantmedibud said:
PLEASE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT RESPOND TO THIS POST! DON'T TELL ME ALL YOU NEED IS A BUSINESS LICENSE TO OPEN A COLLECTIVE, THAT IS JUST FUNNY.
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You seem to know everything about this, so what exactly is your question?
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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iwantmedibud said:
What happens if I get caught as a delivery service opporating without a buissness licene, incorporation, DBA, sellers permit separate bank account etc. I will only sell to 215 holders but I cant afford all the legal stuff, at least not at first. Am I facing a cease and assist order, fine, jail time, rape you in the ass prison time?
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yes, all of the above. They can strait up arrest you for dealing.

Go to a corporate lawyer, form a mutual benefit non-profit corporation. They should be able to hook you up with the sellers permit, tax id #, etc. It doesn't take long and should cost less than $2k. Depending on where you live you may or may not need a business license.

Don't do this through a MMJ lawyer, they will try to ass rape you for $10k. A corporate lawyer should be able to do this in a few hours. Cost me $1800 and that included copy-writing the corporate name.

After that all you have to do is ask to see the doctors rec of the people you sell to and make them sign a collective agreement (just copy another collectives agreement and put your name on it). You must do this BEFORE you bust out any buds. A trick cops like to pull on delivery services is to say they'll give you your paperwork after you show them a sample. The second you hand them a sample before they join your collective you're broken the law and they arrest you. Don't fall for that.
 
NoGutsGrower

NoGutsGrower

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I wonder how hard it would be to find an alex that lives in a trailer park in redding? Not to many of them!
google trailer park redding ca. it looks like a lot show up but most are outside redding, He did say his name is alex and lives within redding! that cuts it down to around 10 or so.
http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVSA_enUS431US431&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=trailer+park+redding+ca#q=trailer+park+redding+ca&hl=en&rlz=1C1AVSA_enUS431US431&prmd=ivnscm&source=univ&tbm=plcs&tbo=u&ei=J9rXTfzFHIGosAPT-rmxBw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CFgQtwMwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9d48d3b0c206fd1d

not saying I'm going to waste my time going up there, but with the info you put online I wonder how much you tell everyone else. My guess is you get busted for something!

haha just thought, anyone could just call the parks and say hi this is officer john doe with the redding police and tell them about what is posted online and I bet the park managers would give you up quick!
 
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