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VictorVIcious

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And since your gonna be using a good fan anyways, you might as well run ducting through everything, and throw the filter in there too, using one fan to pull air through your filter, to cool the tube, and for exhaust. You can run one fan to do all of this.
Dude, you are seriously wrong in this instance. Your first assumption, that you need a a high volume fan to cool the light depending on the wattage is wrong. Now before you get your panties in a wad, let me explain. I have used floro's, t-5's, hid's and a $600.00 led light, I will not just be discussing theory. I recently installed a 1000watt hps light over 2 of my tables. I have a 200cfm axial fan that I bought at Menards for $28.00, and I ran the ducting so I can put another light in it, and made an extra 180 degree bend in it to take care of the light leak. I have more feet of ducting in this sytem than he could fit in his room. The 1000watt light replaced 2-4'-8bulb t-5's, 440 watts each, and the temperature of the room dropped 2 degrees. You do not need a high powered fan to air cool the light and they don't get much bigger than a 1000 watt light.
In order to use a carbon scrubber you will need a can fan. The reason is the airflow resistance of the carbon filter, Period. You can not add more airflow with out changing the size of the ducting, you would have to end with at least an 8" duct, should be 10" and every bend is a flow restriction. All of the joints would need to be 'Y' connections not 'T''s.
How much does a 8" or 10" can fan cost? Fan, ducting, fitting etc for my 6" line, including the two vents, about $125.00. He could do his with 4" aluminum for a lot less and he already has a bathroom exhaust fan for his 'fresh air' system. I just hope he remembers the oscillating fan too.

You are better off seperating the systems, that is science. If you start with 4" ducts and use the old pi-r-square rule you will need 3x4xpi to exhaust air from the room at the rated cfm with no flow restrictions. no obstructions ( like a carbon scrubber ). It will cost more and be less effective for him to do what you suggest. One of the things you want to keep in mind, you need to create a slight negative air pressure for a carbon scrubber to be effective if you are using passive air intake. If you don't the air in the room will replace itself, some will flow out the intake or any small hole you have without ever going thru the carbon filter.
If you look at cutaway views of the 3 types of inline fans, you will see that a "can fan" is just that, a fan in a can, the circumference of the fan is larger than the ends. As an example a 4" can fan might be about 6" around. You could move just as much air with a 6" duct and an axial fan. Creating a flow restriction to have positive air pull?? In addition to that this places your fan in the warm air stream from the light, not the right place for it, that is a whole-nother story. VVbongsmilie
 

jnyce1320

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Cool tubes are the way to go. I have mine exhausted by 6" ducting and a 6" 424 cfm fan. Works great!
 

Spicolli

Active Member
So, the picture that shagman supplied is almost exactly how I was planning on running my light, but I`ve had this nagging voice telling me to listen to the experts and follow logic and keep the cooltube and exhaust systems separate, so that`s what I am going to do.

intake from eaves of house > fan > cooltube > bedroom (winter) or roof (summer)

and

Ona block > small, quiet fan > exhaust out roof

Will this work if I have the fan right above the Ona or will it deplete the Ona too fast

Hey Vic, thanks again for the tips. I am on my first grow and I have 6 clones from a friend. Unfortunately he has lost track of what plants are which strain, so I tried to get a clone from each and will weed out (ha ha) the ones that perform the worst for me. So I may or may not have Hash plant, S plant, Blueberry, Jack Herer, and Northern Lights. They are all under a month old and one of them is already stinky, she may be cut out of the next round.

Hope Im helping with the thread and not hijacking too much.

Aloha, Spicolli
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
hey, no panties bunching here, when your right your right. your obviously way more experienced than i am, i was just giving advice via my own personal experience. What i have goin on is a Growbright jr carbon filter, with a vortex lookalike 540cfm fan. I have the filter on one side of my tent, followed by 4" ducting. i ran the ducting to a flange enlarger/reducer, to change the ducting size to 6", so it would fit around my fan. From there, more 6" ducting, feeding directly into my cooltube, and out the other end, with more ducting going out the exhaust hole in the tent. And for air intake, i have an 80 cfm fan pulling cool air into the tent, which does a pretty good job, although im thinking about installing another 80 cfm fan that i have, for extra fresh air. Like i said, i dont know a whole lot, but the only vent holes that arent being used are the two at the top of my tent, which i leave open half way, so all the warm air can rise and exit the tent from them. I dont know if what im doing is completely right because im using this setup for the first time, but its working out - the room stays nice n even, at a nice 75 degrees, and the cooltube is cool enough to where i can move my 600w MH about a foot away from my seedlings.

So i guess i should be asking YOU, lol, do you got any advice for ME TOO?? *bows down* . Im the 1st one to admit when im wrong, or know less than someone else man. No offense taken at all. :D
 

MedicineIsGood

Active Member
I'm on my 2nd grow of NLxS and so far the smell has been extremely minimal if anything at all. I started on making my carbon scrubber months ago, but haven't even had to hook it up. I thought for sure things would get stinky during flowering, but right now i'm 6 weeks into flower and unless I rub the buds, the only thing I can smell with my nose right up to the plant is a tiny hint of pine.
 

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grow1

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you can easily make a vented hood for less than $30. glass from home depot cut to size, sheet of aluminum from ace hardware $12,sheet mettal screws $2.99. you can make nice bends using acouple pieces of wood. and youll need a pair of tin snips to cut with. i made my own and i works great. you can even polish the aluminum for a great reflector
 
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