Cornel West Isn't Impressed With Barack Obama, Either
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DIY-HP-LED
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The kind of changes you seek and the country needs are beyond one man, it will take a couple of new political parties. Almost forty percent of the country still support Trump for fuck sakes, remember what Obama was up against. Imagine if Obama tried or said 1% of what Trump did, they'd lynch him on the Washington mall. Remember his wife's arms were too strong for fuck sakes! For the kind of change you want someone will have to do the tough slog of breaking the two party system state by state and it will take a long time.
Look how easy it is for an incompetent idiot like Trump to break the American political system, if he had a brain he'd be dangerous. Republican members of congress are ready to throw the country and constitution under the bus for the great leader, party and power before country. These republican fools are going to the wall for Trump and treason.
The midterm elections will lead to a new reality, Trump might be gone before then, he's getting too heavy to carry, even for these assholes.
dagwood45431
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I feel a little squicked out by your use of the term "orifice". When you capitalize it that way, are you referring to an orifice you have named? Does it get taped? You have an odd relationship with one particular orifice. I suggest you refrain from using that word because in your case -- here -- when you write orifice, 90% of us (wild assed guess) think of duct tape.
ttystikk
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Not one useful thing coming out of that Orifice today, I see. Just like usual.
I'm by now pretty sure you never have intelligent comments on thread topics because you just can't think.
trippnface
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I would like to see that poll.
You would think with a majoirty of Americans supporting Obama, they would have supported his legacy.... but Hillary Clinton lost.
What happened?
ttystikk
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Mrs Clinton didn't lie as well as Trump.
trippnface
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I actually disagree!
Clinton is a MUCH better liar than Trump.
Trump is certainly stupid, but he is very upfront about his stupidity. Republicans don't really try to hide their disgraceful actions, they are proud of them. I respect that. I disagree massively, but I respect their resolve.
The Modern Democratic Party though, operates under lies. All they can do, is lie. Neoliberalism is basically the philosophy of been a moderate right winger, and pretending to be a leftist. Obama, clinton, harris, booker, brown, newsom, etc.
Trump boldy came out and said that Jersusalem is now the official Capital of Israel. MASSIVE Global blowback, some massive suport, and there we have it. Trump supports Israel, and has no issues making it widely known.
Here is how Hillary handles the situation: ( Leaked Emails via Wikileaks )
https://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clinton-destroy-syria-for-israel-the-best-way-to-help-israel/5515741
“The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad,” Clinton forthrightly starts off by saying.
Let's stop there. These are private, classified emails. Hillary Clinton is advocating illegal regime change through a proxy war, in order to take out Syria, destabilize Iran, all FOR Israel.
My God. What an absolutely evil and decietful "human"? being. She makes Trump look like a toddler in nefarious activity.
That is just ONE example of how "Democrats" run this Country.
I will take Trumps bold stupidity, over the democrats knife in the back, any day.
Sanders should have won, but I am glad Trump did.
The scumbag DNC deserved this lesson, and I hope to God they are taking it seriously.
I don't think so though. I bet they will fail, running some jackass swine like joe biden. Trump gunna get another 4 years...
UncleBuck
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socalcoolmx
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Yes they are, in the occupied territories just ask John Kerry
I'm guessing you're american that makes you responsible for the crimes Israel is committing
Bombing schools and hospitals imprisoning and torture even murdering of young children all made possible
by your country and mine, america is the enabler.We have a responsibility to stop this shit just like the german people had a responsibility
to stop the Nazi's from exterminateing the jews
UncleBuck
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the palestinian people elected a terrorist organization that thinks all jews should be wiped off the face of the earth to represent themselves.
let me know when israel does anything even remotely as barbaric and uncivilized to the palestinians, the world's first and only permanent-refugees.
Fogdog
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As a matter of fact, the US does share responsibility for what Israel is doing and I do feel indirectly responsible for their acts. In no way we should be partnering with them and sending military aid. I'm not defending any of the depredations Israel inflicts upon it's Palestinian victims. I'm just saying that saying they are not the same as Nazis or South African Arpartheid . This analogy is a political statement, not factual. There is privilege given to Israeli Jewish citizens over non-Jewish. Israel's discrimination against non-Jews is more like the US's treatment of African Americans and Hispanic citizens, and quite different from either Nazi or South African Apartheid policies.
What Israel is doing is wrong but what you and tty are repeating is propaganda intended to de-legitimize Israel. This goes too far and at it's core is a smear on all Jews in meaning if not intent.
Regarding the factually incorrect claim that Israel is the same as South African apartheid government, arguments for the claim and counter arguments are summed up best in the following link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy
A pertinent quote from the link:
Opponents of the term Israeli apartheid argue that the comparison is factually, morally, and historically inaccurate and intended to delegitimize Israel. Opponents state that the West Bank and Gaza are not part of sovereign Israel. They argue that though the internal free movement of Palestinians is heavily regulated by the Israeli government, the territories are governed by the elected Palestinian Authority and Hamas leaders, so they cannot be compared to the internal policies of apartheid South Africa.
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socalcoolmx
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Israel has been oppressing the palestinians since at 1948 and before. Hamas started around 1988 so after 40 years of torture, land theft, chemical weapon use, and just full on terrorism to the palestinian people of coarse they are going with someone who will fight back
Israel has the record for broken un resolutions
high officials in the Israeli government are calling for genocide of the palestinians so just give them time they would do it right now if the thought they could get away with it.
How about that latest un vote condemning trump moving the embassy. The whole world knows what is going on. It was us and israel against the world.
Is the whole world wrong and us and israel are right?What about England France Sweden Italy Germany Norway.
UncleBuck
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let me know when israel does anything even remotely as barbaric and uncivilized to the palestinians
they elected a terrorist organization that thinks all jews should be wiped off the face of the earth to represent themselves.
SneekyNinja
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Im sorry but I simply can't agree.
You might be Jewish but you don't automatically have to justify the barbaric acts of the Israeli State.
potroastV2
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You're incorrect about that.
This dimwit child is not new, he has been a dimwit child on this forum for years. His profile says that he is 26 years old now, which is why he thinks he knows more than people much older than he is. After all, he "is, like, really smart."
He is also one of the prohibitionists who threw a hissy fit when I didn't allow him to campaign against marijuana legalization in California.
Just another shitstain of our society.
trippnface
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You're incorrect about that.
This dimwit child is not new, he has been a dimwit child on this forum for years. His profile says that he is 26 years old now, which is why he thinks he knows more than people much older than he is. After all, he "is, like, really smart."
He is also one of the prohibitionists who threw a hissy fit when I didn't allow him to campaign against marijuana legalization in California.
Just another shitstain of our society.
Man, you sure are butthurt.
What's wrong?
wanna ban me again for nothing?
UncleBuck
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You don't have to agree, it's a fact. Hamas is s terrorist organization that wants all jews wiped out and the Palestinians elected them
trippnface
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You don't seem to understand. Wikileaks posts confimed leaks. Not even the USA denies that... One of the reasons they want Assange dead.
So... "Russian Propaganda" really doesn't play a role.... Hillary Clinton wrote that email.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12166#efmAMoAbj
You either accept reality. Or you don't. You are a big boy, I will let you decide.
UncleBuck
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You're crying