Could someone explain the different ways to grow?

driftin · Nov 5, 2011

slonez47 said:
Cool attitude my man. No disrespect I assure you. Try Jorge's Bible. It is full of info and very easy to understand. It covers indoor, outdoor, hash making, nutes, lights, the whole cha cha.

none takin my friend, I downloaded his video's and will watch watch them tonite, thank you for the suggestion

slonez47 · Nov 5, 2011

You'll do well. It's the love of doing it for me, the bud is icing on the cake.

Filthy Phil · Nov 5, 2011

smokinrav said:
Those plants I pictured above were grown in Pro-Mix with a ton of perlite and horticultural sand. Add powdered lime to most soil/soilless mixes to help with any Ph issues.

When I had it all dialed in, that 400 HPS yielded between 4 and 5 lbs annually.

I dont know about the lime. I have been doing this with promix for the past few cycles and have found a higher likelihood of experiencing micro nutrient deffs. I am especially noticing the ones with less dolomite lime have much larger colas... It is useful to keep the ph up, but can bring probs of its owni guess all in all its not so bad and can be useful, but proper regular flushing can counter the need for it.

My biggest advice for you would be get a liquid ph tester. You have a vial, put liquid desired to be tested in vial, put a few drops of testing liquid, compare the color. For promix you want your ph to be piss yellow to nitrogen defficient green. The majority of issues inside are.caused by ph being out of zone. Proper ph is equal to perfect assimilation of nutrients. Improper ph exponentially becomes further from desired range as inoptimal assimilation of nutrients leaves and builds residual nutrients which will turn to salts, lock out, and drop the ph of root zone substrate. You should test the ph of nutrients being fed to your plants, and measure the ph of the runoff from the pot bottoms. For more accurate ph readings of runoff, dont take the first bit of runoff from the pots, take the last to drip out, it is more reliable an endemic of inside the pot's ph.

If you can master ph, your gonna be loving the fruits or your hobby

driftin · Nov 5, 2011

Filthy Phil said:
I dont know about the lime. I have been doing this with promix for the past few cycles and have found a higher likelihood of experiencing micro nutrient deffs. I am especially noticing the ones with less dolomite lime have much larger colas... It is useful to keep the ph up, but can bring probs of its owni guess all in all its not so bad and can be useful, but proper regular flushing can counter the need for it.

My biggest advice for you would be get a liquid ph tester. You have a vial, put liquid desired to be tested in vial, put a few drops of testing liquid, compare the color. For promix you want your ph to be piss yellow to nitrogen defficient green. The majority of issues inside are.caused by ph being out of zone. Proper ph is equal to perfect assimilation of nutrients. Improper ph exponentially becomes further from desired range as inoptimal assimilation of nutrients leaves and builds residual nutrients which will turn to salts, lock out, and drop the ph of root zone substrate. You should test the ph of nutrients being fed to your plants, and measure the ph of the runoff from the pot bottoms. For more accurate ph readings of runoff, dont take the first bit of runoff from the pots, take the last to drip out, it is more reliable an endemic of inside the pot's ph.

If you can master ph, your gonna be loving the fruits or your hobby

I do have a ph pen, does ec and ppm, just learning to use it, but didn't know about checking from the runoff, another little tidbit for my notebook thank you

I read that well water isn't very good to use? mine is 840ec, ppm 358 and ph 8.1 is that any good? We aren't supposed to drink it because of some scares at surrounding farms, but use it for baths, toilet ect. I could get a filter for it if you guys think it would be ok for plants.

slonez47 · Nov 5, 2011

Filthy Phil said:
I dont know about the lime. I have been doing this with promix for the past few cycles and have found a higher likelihood of experiencing micro nutrient deffs. I am especially noticing the ones with less dolomite lime have much larger colas... It is useful to keep the ph up, but can bring probs of its owni guess all in all its not so bad and can be useful, but proper regular flushing can counter the need for it.

My biggest advice for you would be get a liquid ph tester. You have a vial, put liquid desired to be tested in vial, put a few drops of testing liquid, compare the color. For promix you want your ph to be piss yellow to nitrogen defficient green. The majority of issues inside are.caused by ph being out of zone. Proper ph is equal to perfect assimilation of nutrients. Improper ph exponentially becomes further from desired range as inoptimal assimilation of nutrients leaves and builds residual nutrients which will turn to salts, lock out, and drop the ph of root zone substrate. You should test the ph of nutrients being fed to your plants, and measure the ph of the runoff from the pot bottoms. For more accurate ph readings of runoff, dont take the first bit of runoff from the pots, take the last to drip out, it is more reliable an endemic of inside the pot's ph.

If you can master ph, your gonna be loving the fruits or your hobby

I have to disagree. My PH read way low and I worried. The soil buffered the low PH. Soiless is closer to hydro and a low PH is acceptable. No dolomite lime, no checking the runoff. She's blowing up low PH and all. I was nervous, and tried it on one plant after talking with someone. It workd for me, all I can say is try it with one and see for yourself, or not.

Filthy Phil · Nov 5, 2011

driftin said:
I do have a ph pen, does ec and ppm, just learning to use it, but didn't know about checking from the runoff, another little tidbit for my notebook thank you

I read that well water isn't very good to use? mine is 840ec, ppm 358 and ph 8.1 is that any good? We aren't supposed to drink it because of some scares at surrounding farms, but use it for baths, toilet ect. I could get a filter for it if you guys think it would be ok for plants.

Well... Its not ideal with the high alcalinity ph, however considering its well water its likely to not be chlorinated, which is good, but who knows what else is in there. A filter could be good, you can get a cheap one at home depot that isnt as good as reverse osmosis water, but will do the trick and cost a lot less. I would also consider doing aerated bacterial teas if you have the desire for it. To make it easier you can use organic bottled nutrients, aerate it for a day or two, dilute to desired level, and feed your plants. It helps to breed all those lovely bacteria that are just a godsend to healthy tastey plants. Its more work for certain, but if you have the time and its not too much hassel for you, its worth considering. In my oppinion those organic bacterial teas are the best possible way to feed your plants...its just the most time consuming is all

slonez47 · Nov 5, 2011

Filthy Phil said:
Well... Its not ideal with the high alcalinity ph, however considering its well water its likely to not be chlorinated, which is good, but who knows what else is in there. A filter could be good, you can get a cheap one at home depot that isnt as good as reverse osmosis water, but will do the trick and cost a lot less. I would also consider doing aerated bacterial teas if you have the desire for it. To make it easier you can use organic bottled nutrients, aerate it for a day or two, dilute to desired level, and feed your plants. It helps to breed all those lovely bacteria that are just a godsend to healthy tastey plants. Its more work for certain, but if you have the time and its not too much hassel for you, its worth considering. In my oppinion those organic bacterial teas are the best possible way to feed your plants...its just the most time consuming is all

Another great way to get your bene bacs is RO OregonismXL. I use that with the Trinity as a catalyst.

driftin · Nov 5, 2011

Filthy Phil said:
Well... Its not ideal with the high alcalinity ph, however considering its well water its likely to not be chlorinated, which is good, but who knows what else is in there. A filter could be good, you can get a cheap one at home depot that isnt as good as reverse osmosis water, but will do the trick and cost a lot less. I would also consider doing aerated bacterial teas if you have the desire for it. To make it easier you can use organic bottled nutrients, aerate it for a day or two, dilute to desired level, and feed your plants. It helps to breed all those lovely bacteria that are just a godsend to healthy tastey plants. Its more work for certain, but if you have the time and its not too much hassel for you, its worth considering. In my oppinion those organic bacterial teas are the best possible way to feed your plants...its just the most time consuming is all

thanks for the info on the water, it does have a lot of iron in it, dang stains on the tub and stuff. I'll have to check on the filter, but i might convice mother about an reverse osmosis unit i can put on the pump, she has always compained about the stains lol
The tea stuff is interesting, will have a look at that thanks.

driftin · Nov 5, 2011

slonez47 said:
Another great way to get your bene bacs is RO OregonismXL. I use that with the Trinity as a catalyst.

sorry lol is that part of a fertilizer line? not too bright here lol I will have to google it, but i understand the need for benificial bacteria but didn't know i could add it .. thanks

Filthy Phil · Nov 6, 2011

Yeah, thats part of a fertilizer lineup, an effective and easy way to reintroduce bacterial colonies back into your plants

GunRunner · Nov 7, 2011

driftin said:
I do have a ph pen, does ec and ppm, just learning to use it, but didn't know about checking from the runoff, another little tidbit for my notebook thank you

I read that well water isn't very good to use? mine is 840ec, ppm 358 and ph 8.1 is that any good? We aren't supposed to drink it because of some scares at surrounding farms, but use it for baths, toilet ect. I could get a filter for it if you guys think it would be ok for plants.

358ppm is a bit too much, you will need to filter the water. You will get the best results with a reverse osmosis (RO) filter, it will get your ppm down to about 10ppm and PH the water down to around 7. Otherwise you can use a can filter (think Brita - but I heard a lot of mixed opinions about these)

I have the same problem such as you, my water is close to 450 ppm, totally unsafe to drink, so I won't be giving any of it to my plants, if it's unsafe for me to drink, no way it's going to my plants. And since my RO filter is in another country (doh!) I'm gona make a DIY water distillation system

Your PH is high so you will need PH down too to get it to the acceptable 6 - 7 range.

Good luck.

driftin · Nov 8, 2011

thanks for your repy gunrunner, although mother says we can't get a full r/o system she is allowing me to get one that you put on a tap. It is a tabletop r/o unit? Not very fast, but neither am I any more lol i will test it to see what the ppm goes to with it .

driftin · Nov 10, 2011

Well now i guess i have another decision lol. The wife says now that i am going to grow indoors i should get some better seeds. I have always just grown seeds from one crop to the next outside so i really see her point. She actually did some research since i get distracted too much lol and came up with a couple of kinds.
I was wondering if any of you folks have growin barney's farm Pineapple chunk or violator kush, I would welcome any recomendations anyone has about them.

thanks again for the earlier help

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