Could Use a Bit of Advice!!! See pics!!!

O.ducks

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So this girl is first week into flower and it seems like she has nute lock but its only effect a few branches which seems really odd. I have flushed twice now in the last 7 days at 300 gallons each time as its a 100 gallon pot. Soil is from Baby Bu's dynamic blend. I use earth juice grow and catalyst. Ph seems to be fine at 6.8 (first 2 gallons) out. Strain is Blue Dream. The rest of the plant seems to be growing well and feeding and drinking well. Roughly 20% of the top is affected. No sign of bugs, fungus ect... It appears she is locked out in NPK and maybe mag?
Could it be something else besides nute lockout that would only affect less than 20% of her, meanwhile the rest of her grows healthy daily? So odd...
Fyi: Weather has been sunny 84f and low of 55f at night with a RH of 35% outdoor.
Any advice is welcomed.
 

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Nice plant! I envy your ability to grow outdoors the way nature intended.

Anyway, if pressed to make a snap diagnosis based on a picture...I would say Mg deficiency with a touch of N toxicity. Just my .02
 
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$bkbbudz$ said:
Nice plant! I envy your ability to grow outdoors the way nature intended.

Anyway, if pressed to make a snap diagnosis based on a picture...I would say Mg deficiency with a touch of N toxicity. Just my .02
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Move to Oregon, 4 plant limit with no licenses or bs per residence. Grow them right next to your tomatoes as they should be grown.
Cheers for the advice.
 
RM3

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Def not an N tox, but could use a bit of mag (small bit)

I'd wonder when those stakes were pushed into the pot, whether they caused a bit of root damage?

And whether you've started bloom nutes? if so it is a tad early
 
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RM3 said:
Def not an N tox, but could use a bit of mag (small bit)

I'd wonder when those stakes were pushed into the pot, whether they caused a bit of root damage?

And whether you've started bloom nutes? if so it is a tad early
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I have not started bloom nutes and likely wont for a bit. Still trying to focus on fixing this issue before i focus on the budding. The stakes have been there since day one of transplant. Besides a little angle tilt, here and there, it has used the same hole that it started with. I am torn if its a nute lock with a certain root wad or maybe some a root issue all together. Growing it in fabric pot, i was able to pull fabric back a little to look at the side wall and root structure and all roots seem milky white at least the section i viewed. Can't deduce anything else with this selective issue.....

I fed her some Cal/mg a wk ago and no signs of improvement.
 
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O.ducks said:
So this girl is first week into flower and it seems like she has nute lock but its only effect a few branches which seems really odd. I have flushed twice now in the last 7 days at 300 gallons each time as its a 100 gallon pot. Soil is from Baby Bu's dynamic blend. I use earth juice grow and catalyst. Ph seems to be fine at 6.8 (first 2 gallons) out. Strain is Blue Dream. The rest of the plant seems to be growing well and feeding and drinking well. Roughly 20% of the top is affected. No sign of bugs, fungus ect... It appears she is locked out in NPK and maybe mag?
Could it be something else besides nute lockout that would only affect less than 20% of her, meanwhile the rest of her grows healthy daily? So odd...
Fyi: Weather has been sunny 84f and low of 55f at night with a RH of 35% outdoor.
Any advice is welcomed.
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Imo you should let her dry out. Make her show you shes thirsty before you water or if your always getting water maybe limit it a bit. I see way too moist area.
 
RM3

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Good advice here ^^^^^

since it is a fabric pot it could be the umbrella effect ? I've never used fabric pots but @Dr. Who knows more about it
 
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VTMi'kmaq said:
Imo you should let her dry out. Make her show you shes thirsty before you water or if your always getting water maybe limit it a bit. I see way too moist area.
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The pictures were from last night after i flushed 300 gallons of water through her and corrected ph'd water directly after. I will not be watering her anytime soon.
 
RM3

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O.ducks said:
Umbrella effect? Do explain...
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Just edited to call Dr Who in, he knows more about it, basically the roots form a umbrella and water doesn't get to all the roots under it because it can run off thru the fabric pot
 
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RM3 said:
Just edited to call Dr Who in, he knows more about it, basically the roots form a umbrella and water doesn't get to all the roots under it because it can run off thru the fabric pot
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The leaves are stiff and curl under as seen in pics, stunted growth in only selective areas. I mean i did pass through 600 plus gallons in last 7 days, is there any chance that the water didnt penetrate the middle root wad? I used a hose on very low to not disturb the top roots and hose water here in Eugene is 7.09 ph.
 
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RM3 said:
Just edited to call Dr Who in, he knows more about it, basically the roots form a umbrella and water doesn't get to all the roots under it because it can run off thru the fabric pot
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This is my first use of smart pots and have always used soil as my pot, but digging a 4 ft hole sounded awful that week. Lol. I am not a fan of these pots though already. It seems like the 6-8'' near the fabric dry out nearly daily in the summer while the middle seems moist more often than not at least with my moisture reader which is only 6 inches long. I was worried that i over watered her, kinda seems like the opposite of the umbrella effect? Its hard to measure much below that. Ive always had great success with plastic pots and the ground. Uneven drying is a pain in the ass and makes for fluctuating ph levels it seems. I know for a fact that i will never buy the smart pots again and i will just take some advil and suck it up and dig a hole..lol
 
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