Could We Take Away Pakistan's Nukes?

In all my games of RISK and CIV I can assure you that north america is very difficult to attack, these true to life games learnt me this on the internet lol :)

but no really...I have a hard time believing with today's technology that they could successfully invade north america it would be impossible scenario and total suicide, maybe if they build a giant robot army or something.
 
beardo said:
Yeah we need to stand up and demand no nukes world wide....if we don't we deserve what were going to get.
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I can't believe everyone has not united to demand an end to nuclear....people are more worried about second hand smoke, it's insane. We should eliminate bio weapons and research also. these should be universal rules of common law.
 
NoDrama said:
as soon as the drones started killing peeps in Paki, they started pointing those Nukes at us I bet.
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Pakistan doesn't have ICBM's. Their arsenal is entirely geared entirely towards fighting India.

And if we took away Pakistan's nukes, India would immediately invade them. Not that we could do that anyways.

We should also keep in mind that US soldiers are guarding Pakistan's nukes. That's part of the reason we give them so much money.
 
deprave said:
In all my games of RISK and CIV I can assure you that north america is very difficult to attack, these true to life games learnt me this on the internet lol :)

but no really...I have a hard time believing with today's technology that they could successfully invade north america it would be impossible scenario and total suicide, maybe if they build a giant robot army or something.
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North Korea isn't that far off from being able to hit California. I believe they can hit Hawaii now if they wanted to. They wouldn't be able to hit a specific target, but they have the delivery system to randomly nuke Hawaii and close to being able to do the same thing with Cali.
 
beardo said:
Can you explain? I didn't know about this.
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Because it's a secret. (well it was supposed to be until the AP found out about it)

The Bush administration made a deal with the Pakistan government after 9/11. We also train the Pakistani soldiers in charge of securing the nukes as well as the soldiers in charge of using them at training facilities in America. We share a certain amount of our nuclear security technology with Pakistan in exchange for access.
 
Dan Kone said:
North Korea isn't that far off from being able to hit California. I believe they can hit Hawaii now if they wanted to. They wouldn't be able to hit a specific target, but they have the delivery system to randomly nuke Hawaii and close to being able to do the same thing with Cali.
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Welp, it's been nice knowing ya. Fucking koreans.
 
deprave said:
In all my games of RISK and CIV I can assure you that north america is very difficult to attack, these true to life games learnt me this on the internet lol :)

but no really...I have a hard time believing with today's technology that they could successfully invade north america it would be impossible scenario and total suicide, maybe if they build a giant robot army or something.
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Its funny you talk about the game of RISK. The very first thing I learned about that game is that you never want to spread yourself out too thin and have small groups of troops in far off lands. What is the USA Doing with its military? Spreading them out nice and thin, making easy targets out of them.
 
NoDrama said:
Its funny you talk about the game of RISK. The very first thing I learned about that game is that you never want to spread yourself out too thin and have small groups of troops in far off lands. What is the USA Doing with its military? Spreading them out nice and thin, making easy targets out of them.
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We wouldn't do shit if Korea or Taiwan jumped off right now. I'm pretty sure Israel is worried to If all the Muslims unite and invade them theirs not much we could do.
 
NoDrama said:
Its funny you talk about the game of RISK. The very first thing I learned about that game is that you never want to spread yourself out too thin and have small groups of troops in far off lands. What is the USA Doing with its military? Spreading them out nice and thin, making easy targets out of them.
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True... but those troops can kick fuckin ass!!

The should all come home though.

The constitution says provide for the common defense. That was meant to be defense of America, not south korea, germany, afganistan, iraq, etc...
 
not really...the u.s. is going broke..china is far from it and has many more people, russia has the most natural resources on the planet
 
[video=youtube;iRyOWawaT_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRyOWawaT_U[/video]actually you would be surprised at how usa is scared of places like that india , pakistan, North korea <--- china's allies

usa would have there hands full as these places are a power house look what happened in Northkorea Usa high tailed it out of there north korea sunk a japanese military ship and are testing nuclear weapons WHAT ARE THEY DOING :))

usa fights places that they know are 10 years behind them fighting a bunch of sand niggers useing 20 year old russian technology

pakistan , india , have weapons that usa can not go up against cruise missiles that go mach 3 making the tomohawk look like a midget they also have money unlike USA and invest far more into warfare

USA has 7900 active balisitic weapons
russia has 17,900 nukes russia cant compete with building ship for ship against usa so they instead went into kick ass crusie missiles that usa cannot stop which pakistan and other countries own

these cruise missiles can be fired on ground an or on air usa is aware of this tecnology and know that every ship plane cannot compete with it and whats funny i read somewhere usa doesnt plan on combating this issue till 2021

i would so love to see USA pick a fight with a country like pakistan its already said CHINA , INDIA are the dominent countries as of today
 
The deadly accuracy of a cruise missile was demonstrated in the Iraq war which accelerated the war results when the Americans started using their subsonic Tomahawk Cruise missiles. Brahmos is a supersonic multi role cruise missile which is more than three times faster than the Tomahawk cruise missiles, traveling at almost 2.8 times the speed of sound! This sheer speed means that by the time enemy systems pick up an approaching Brahmos, it is already too late! And the high impact generated by the kinetic energy of the speed alone is a huge plus point in this missile system.

More than anything else the Brahmos can hit targets which are just 30 feet above the ground! Just imagine how low the missile would be flying to hit a target which is only 30 feet above ground level! No ships in the sea or buildings on land, not even oil pumps will be spared. The very term supersonic means that before one can hear the sound of an incoming missile, the missile would have reached the target!
Brahmos can carry penetrating warheads of upto 300 kgs, and has a flight range of up to 300 kms!
It can vary its flight path from a mere 30 feet above ground to upto 14 kilometers above the ground, and can cruise in undetected by the enemy radar systems with its varying flight signatures (flight paths) and sharp maneuvering at a top speed locked towards the target and no missile defense system in the world today can stop an incoming Brahmos! It has an on board computer system controlling the missile flight path based on incoming data via high speed data link from navigation and guidance systems to perform course corrections and terminal guidance.
It can be launched from land, sea, submarines, and now even the air based version is being produced where by the end of 2007 the Brahmos will be fitted to Su-30 MKI fighter jets of the Indian Air Force.
More than 10000 specialists worked in India alone, with India developing the complete control system of the missile, while Russians provided the hardware. The missile itself is manufactured in India and the tests are done near the coast of southern Orissa.
The land to land, sea to sea, sea to land and land to sea versions of Brahmos are unmatched in the world today and are ready to be deployed. In fact, the first customer of the Brahmos was the India navy. In 2005, INS Rajput which is a Kashin II-class guided-missile destroyer of the India navy became the world&#8217;s first real time delivery system fitted with Brahmos, with both maritime and land versions of the missile installed. Indian Navy can now sink any aircraft careers and large ships within the range of Brahmos!
The India Army acquired Brahmos in June this year and has a separate regiment dedicated to it. Efforts are now on to fit the Submarines of the Indian navy with subsea versions of Brahmos.

Dr. Silvatanu Pillai, CEO & MD of BrahMos, the Indo-Russian joint venture company that produces Brahmos, says that in the next 5 years, the company plans to develop hypersonic cruise missiles, the ones which travel at a speed exceeding Mach 5 (or more than 5 times the speed of sound).
What&#8217;s more? India and Russia plan to export Brahmos to friendly countries and with many potential customers like South Africa etc already approaching options are wide open for multi billion dollar sales! India has finally become a military arms exporter!
Taking the success of the joint venture forward, India and Russia are also on talks now to co-develop fifth generation fighter aircrafts!


Read more @ HitXP » Brahmos &#8211; The deadly cruise missile - by Gurudev ​
 
lets look at usa's top jet F22

Crew: 1

Length: 62 feet, 1 inch

Height: 16 feet, 8 inches

Wingspan: 44 feet, 6 inches

Maximum speed: Mach 2-plus
(more than 1,300 miles per hour)

Ceiling: above 50,000 feet

Engines: 2 Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 turbofans with afterburners and thrust-vectoring nozzles

Thrust: 35,000 lbs. each

Armament: 20-mm. cannon with 480 rounds, 2 Sidewinder heat-seeking missiles, 6 AMRAAM radar-guided missiles or 2 1,000-lb. satellite-guided bombs and 2 AMRRAM missiles

you see mach 2 plus the brahmos does mach 2.8 and probably now to mach 5 so yea common usa we seen how your percentage rate was stopping a scud missile :)) I DARE YA GO DIS ARM THEM hahaha get your ass handed on a plate
 
i think we spend more on military/weapons"so called defense" than those countries...we just spend it poorly... the f-22's are useless and a total waste of $
 
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