Countdown to Apocolypse

puffdamagikdragon said:

Speaking of rascist trolls, all you do is spew shit and WILLNOT (or maybe you CANNOT) back ANY of it up with facts. You will accuse Blunt of it, but you can't site a credible source yet for your shit, so put up or shut up.

Are you gonna give a credible source or not? If you don't, we will all know you are just full of shit, and it is YOU who haven't proven any facts, so don't project. Makes you look even more ignorant and hypocrital all the time. But if you are trying to kill your OWN credibility, go ahead.

So, you gonna answer ME, or are you scared of a girl, now?

WHERE IS YOUR CREDIBLE SOURCE FOR THE INFO ABOUT OBAMA'S 'RACE PERCENTAGE?'

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LoudBlunts said:

BWAHAHAHA

its okay zenmaster....

you need help....we realize this.


we will say a prayer for you.


and ill continue to work my non existant banging ass job that also finances my fantabulous grow. speaking of which....where's yours?

OH YEA...you're too stupid to even figure out when to place your seeds outside....bwahahahaha

and in reference to your shot at me spelling....so be it. your slow typing ass doesnt know about typos while typing 100wpms...

and even then if i did misspell...so the fuck what. im ignorant? So i guess its safe to say Albert Einstein is an idiot too? LMAO.....wait...dont answer that...b/c i know you wont.

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LoudBlunts said:

nice job of dodging.


it fits you very well.

still waiting on those links

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puffdamagikdragon said:

You are a troll, Zen, come off it.
I notice you won't post to me. I guess you don't wanna 'play' with the dragon, eh? Chicken shit.


Joe- Preused the sites, but I didn't see anything about Obama's race percentage. Is that why you posted it?

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LoudBlunts said:

maybe its the cute little kitten in your avatar he is scared of.


he probably considers kitten an antichrist as well

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puffdamagikdragon said:

You are a troll, Zen, come off it.
I notice you won't post to me. I guess you don't wanna 'play' with the dragon, eh? Chicken shit.


Joe- Preused the sites, but I didn't see anything about Obama's race percentage. Is that why you posted it?

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ZenMaster said:

Hm, you really believe that? Should read this

Local News | Windfall tax lets Alaska rake in billions from Big Oil | Seattle Times Newspaper

"Alaska collected an estimated $6 billion from the new tax during the fiscal year that ended June 30, according to the Alaska Oil and Gas Association. That helped push the state's total oil revenue — from new and existing taxes, as well as royalties — to more than $10 billion, double the amount received last year.

While many other states are confronting big budget deficits because of the troubled economy, Alaska officials are in the enviable position of exploring new ways to spend the state's multibillion-dollar budget surplus.


Some of that new cash will end up in the wallets of Alaska's residents.
Palin's administration last week gained legislative approval for a special $1,200 payment to every Alaskan to help cope with gas prices, which are among the highest in the country.

That check will come on top of the annual dividend of about $2,000 that each resident could receive this year from an oil-wealth savings account"

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joepro said:

The first link displayed % rate of uneducated minorites vs educated minorites..it was for zen.

did the link not open?
stats: 94% of black voters are supporting Obama, which would tie Democrat Lyndon Baines Johnson’s 94% support among blacks in 1964 against Republican Barry Goldwater.
Black voters have historically trended towards the Democratic Party regardless—Al Gore received 90% of the black vote in 2000, and John Kerry received 88% of the black vote in 2004.
The poll surveyed 750 African American adults between Sept.16-Oct. 6 and found 62% of respondents identifying the economy as the key issue–double the 31% of African American voters who identified the economy as the top issue in the same poll four years ago.
The poll also found that despite the sometimes bitter primary fight between Hillary Clinton and Obama, an overwhelming majority of blacks still have a favorable view of the Clintons—with both Bill and Hillary Clinton receiving an 86% favorability rating.
The same can not be said of Obama’s opponent John McCain, who had a 22.8% favorability rating among blacks. Republican identification among black voters dropped 60% since 2004, when 10% of African Americans said they were part of the GOP. Now, just 4% identified themselves as Republicans.

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puffdamagikdragon said:

Ahhh, I thought so. I had hoped you hadn't tried to do Zen's work for him, (altho you are a nice guy like that.)

Good points, and NICE SOURCES for your info. Very credible.

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ZenMaster said:

You can't throw that word on me, Danker. I am a conservative.

I know you are a liberal, you proved you are a liberal, you can jump up and down screaming you are this "libertarian" however your mouth proves otherwise. What does a state senator do exactly that correlates as experience to be the president of the united states? Is it all the foreign policy he acquired there or was it the military experience?

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Dankdude said:

Zen I could ask you the same question, John McCain was a Senator for over 20 years, and thing there has qualified him for the Office of president.
No one is qualified or experianced in Politics on the presidential level until they are in office. The Military doesn't nessicarraly qualify you to be president. Funny how you start on Foreign Policy.... Remember Sarah Palin with her speed dating crash course in Foreign


You Proved nothing to anyone else but yourself Zen, If you must Know how I voted, Yes I did Vote Democrat for the Presidential election (Because McCain and Palin are both NeoConservatives), But I voted Libertarian in all the Other elections in the Congressional and Senatorial and State Elections.
You know nothing about me, Zen. You Think you do, but in reality you don't.
You on the other hand with your writing have proven yourself a Neo-conservative.

NEO-CONSERVATIVE

Beliefs:

This political group supported a militant anti communism, minimal social welfare (to the consternation of extreme free-market libertarians), and sympathy with a traditionalist agenda (is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies). They feuded with traditional right-wing Republicans, such as William F. Buckley and the Nativity, protectionist, isolationists once represented by ex-Republican Pat Buchanan, who is the editor of the paleoconservative magazine The American Conservative.
But domestic policy does not define Neo conservatism; it is a movement founded on, and perpetuated by a hawkish foreign policy, opposition to communism during the Cold War, free trade, and opposition to Middle Eastern states that pursue terrorism. Thus, their foremost target was the old Richard Nixon approach to foreign policy, peace through negotiations, diplomacy, and arms control known, détente and containment (rather than rollback) of the Soviet Union, and the beginning of the process that would lead to bilateral ties between the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the U.S. Today a rift still divides the neo conservative hawks from many members of the State Department, who favor established foreign policy conventions.

Origins:

Neo conservatives are conservatives who are "new" (neo) to the conservative movement in some way. Usually, this comes as a result from the migration from the left of the political spectrum to the right, over the course of many years. Though every such neo conservative has an individual story to tell, there are several key events in recent American history that are often said to have prompted the shift.
Many of today's most famous Neo cons are from Eastern European Jewish immigrant families, who were frequently on the edge of poverty. The Great Depression radicalized many immigrants, and introduced them to the new and revolutionary ideas of socialism and communism.
The Soviet Union's break with Stalinism in the 1950's led to the rise of the so-called New Left in America, which popularized anti-Sovietism along with anti-capitalism. The New Left became very popular among the children of hardline Communist families.
Intellectually, Neo conservatives have been strongly influenced by a diverse range of thinkers from Max Shachtman's version of Trotskyism (in the area of anti-Sovietism and international policy) to the elitist, neo-Platonic ideas of Leo Strauss.
Many critics charged that the Neo conservatives lost their raison d'étre following the collapse of the Soviet Union. During the 1990s, Neo conservatives were once again in the opposition side of the foreign policy establishment, railing against the post-Cold War foreign policy of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, which reduced military expenditures and was, in their view, insufficiently idealistic.
Neo conservatives perhaps are closer to the mainstream of the Republican Party today since the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon than any competing faction, especially considering the nature of the Bush Doctrine and the preemptive war against Iraq. Nevertheless, many of the prominent people labeled as Neo conservatives are actually registered Democrats.

The Above sums you up rather well Zen.

Let's Face it, the Campaign that McCain ran was Pure Neoconservatism.

Also this may be even more to describe you:

Traditional conservatives believe in smaller government, lower taxes, free markets, and a strict constructionist interpretation of the Constitution.

Neoconservatives pair these traditional conservative values with Christian social values, for example, opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage.

Neocons also break from their traditional brethren on international issues, favoring preemptive action over nonintervention.


Through the years, Neo-conservatism has actually been variously identified with both left- and right-wing movements, but the hallmark of neo-conservatism has been an aggessive, proactive foreign policy aimed at worldwide democratization.

It arose in America as a left-wing response to Stalinism and advocated a hard-line approach to counter Soviet influence. Neo-conservatives stopped identifying with the Left during the Vietnam era, because the Left took an anti-war stance distasteful to the Neo-cons.

Today, Neo-cons clothe themselves in the ideological trappings of the political Right, because the Right is more supportive of their militant foreign policy stance. The Bush Doctrine, the position that the US is justified in taking pre-emptive military action to avert any potential threats, epitomizes the Neo-con philosophy.

Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States from the rejection of the social liberalism, moral relativism, and New Left counterculture of the 1960s. In the United States, neoconservatives align themselves with mainstream conservative values, such as the free market, limited welfare, and traditional cultural values. Their key distinction is in international affairs, where they prefer an interventionist approach that seeks to defend national interests.

The term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had "moved to the right". Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy. According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about."

The first major neoconservative to embrace the term and considered its founder is Irving Kristol, father of William Kristol, who would become the founder of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century, and wrote of his neoconservative views in the 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative.'" Kristol's ideas had been influential since the 1950s, when he co-founded and edited Encounter magazine. Another source was Norman Podhoretz, editor of Commentary magazine from 1960 to 1995. By 1982 Podhoretz was calling himself a neoconservative, in a New York Times Magazine article titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy". The Reagan Doctrine was considered anti-Communist and in opposition to Soviet Union global influence and considered central to American foreign policy until the end of the Cold War, shortly before Bill Clinton became president of the United States. Neoconservative influence on American foreign policy later became central with the Bush Doctrine.

Prominent neoconservative periodicals are Commentary and The Weekly Standard. Neoconservatives are associated with foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), The Heritage Foundation, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).

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