whitebb2727
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Ive never measured the ppm either. Start spraying as it shows sex. Some take to it and some don't.
Creating seeds with my coloidal silver and currently growing plants, need help
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Uberknot
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In my case I bought 240 ppm pure nano particles so I have to dilute with steam distilled water.
rshackleferd
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Is it called bio-silver? I diluted it to 50ppm....didnt work. However my friend used the 50 ppm bio-silver from amazon with success.In my case I bought 240 ppm pure nano particles so I have to dilute with steam distilled water.
rshackleferd
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Yep, that's the stuff that actually works, DO NOT use the 240ppm version and dilute it.
rshackleferd
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We both flipped the same strain and his flipped a lot better than mine with the silver mountain 50ppm bio-silver. He didnt dilute it or anything, used it straight out of the bottle. Its only enough for one flip, he ran out at the end of the flip while i had a full gallon of the homemade stuff for future use.
Uberknot
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That's the 50 ppm one in the picture.
I ordered the 240 ppm and you use distilled water to dilute to 50 ppm.
So yes the 240 ppm does it fact work just fine.
Mine came in two days from Utah.
If you don't waste it it will last a long time.
It worked within 7 days.
Morriston55
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Ive been soaking that branch everyday. 5 days now. Going to flip to flower sunday. Nothing noticeable happening, plant isnt the healthiest though but is recoverring ok
AAjax
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you don't want to use pollen on the same plant for seed stock. It should be applied to a female from a separate seed mother (not clones of the same plant) same strain OK but not the exact same plant/clone.
HydroRed
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You spray the plant you desire to get fem seeds from, then you let it develop pollen sacks and pollinate its own flowers a.k.a. selfing (S1). Then you have feminized seeds of that exact plant and that plant only. No other plants needed.
AAjax
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Ah, thanks. Was under the impression you needed varying genetics to avoid hermaphroditic traits.
whitebb2727
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If a company claims to know the ppm of their silver they are full of crap. You cant measure the ppms of cs.
Why not make it? Cheap and easy.
A cell phone charger, a board and a piece of silver. Plans are all over the web. I use an air stone it makes better spray.
Why not make it? Cheap and easy.
A cell phone charger, a board and a piece of silver. Plans are all over the web. I use an air stone it makes better spray.
HydroRed
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Its when you stress a plant to achieve the pollen sacks (extreme temps,light schedule irregularities,flowering too long etc) that you will find the hermie traits. Thats why lots of people use the CS is to avoid that issues.
Uberknot
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There are in fact ways to test exactly what the ppm is....mine came in at like 230ish when I used a ppm meter.
But they use things like this..
Atomic Absorption Analysis and TEM Testing
The gold standard laboratory test for determining the concentration (i.e., ppm) of a batch of colloidal silver is a test called Atomic Absorption Analysis Mass Flame Spectrometry (AAAMFS).
This is about a $500-plus laboratory test conducted on a $50,000 to $100,000-plus piece of lab equipment.
Another lab test, Transmission Electron Microscopy (TEM), can also be used to measure the size of the silver particles, and get a good visual idea of the concentration of silver particles in the solution.
TEM is a $2,000 - $4,000 laboratory test (depending upon number of samples submitted), conducted on a multi-million dollar microscope capable of magnifications up to 175,000x.
This astonishing level of magnification allows you to visually see – and photograph -- the tiny, sub-microscopic silver particles in a colloidal silver solution.
TDS Meters, PPM and Colloidal Silver Quality
A lot of people who make their own colloidal silver try to use those little $49 TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) meters to measure the “ppm” or concentration of their colloidal silver batches.
Generally, they’re operating under the mistaken impression that the “ppm” of a colloidal silver solution determines its quality. Quite the contrary, all the “ppm” tells you is the total weight of silver (i.e., concentration) in a given solution.
As explained in my article "Why Higher PPM Is Not Always Better," you can have a colloidal silver solution with 500 ppm, and another with 20 ppm, and the 20 ppm solution could easily outperform the supposedly stronger 500 ppm solution.
That's because stronger concentrations of colloidal silver (i.e., ppm) almost always contain excessively large silver particles which the body treats as if you'd eaten dirt, i.e., it goes in one end and is expelled out the other without being taken into the cells, tissues and organs where the pathogens like to hide and colonize. So you can't base quality of a colloidal silver solution solely on the "ppm" or concentration of a batch of colloidal silver. Quality is almost always associated more strongly with particle size -- the smaller the silver particles, the easier it is for the body to assimilate and utilize them, sending them throughout the body into the cells, tissues and organs where they can get at the colonies of pathogens.
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HydroRed
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is there a method to atomize the silver particles smaller? How does one obtain the smallest particle version of CS available?
Uberknot
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I don't know the smallest possible, but smaller is better when it comes to CS.
I know I paid like $12-13 and they sent me free twice as much of the nano particle stuff so I am good with that.
This guy here wants to sell some machine for $250 that makes .0008 micron sized particles.
Laser Pointer test......
I mean if you were drinking it and using it I guess that might be ideal, but this stuff lasts a long time and 16 oz of 240 ppm diluted is like 80 oz of 40-50 ppm. using steam distilled water is a must when cutting this stuff down.
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whitebb2727
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The lower the voltage the smaller the nano silver. The addition of an airstone helps.
Uberknot
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This guy here is interesting making his own. When you make your own you get different sizes.
Oops he was told he was wrong so he made another video....the correct way....Gold Colloidal Silver!
For some reason ( to drink? ) he has to heat it up and change it into true colloidal silver from ionic silver that makes it gold.
He was more into detail about a few other things he had to do as well.
Oops he was told he was wrong so he made another video....the correct way....Gold Colloidal Silver!
For some reason ( to drink? ) he has to heat it up and change it into true colloidal silver from ionic silver that makes it gold.
He was more into detail about a few other things he had to do as well.
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Morriston55
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Im going to flower another plant than the female I am spraying with CS, If I manage to get pollen sacks to develop, the whole entire other plant will be for seeds. If I flip to flower today, about how long until I see developement of the sacs? Already been spraying one week daily