Cross-breeding Marijuana with another Plant, like a Fruit

QuestforKnowledge

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It is possible to have like 5 different types of bud onto the one bud plant. find like a bud that has a hellll good rootstock, like im talking huge root system but crap bud, graft good bud plants onto this one and you'll get hell tasty bud.
ive heard this b4 as well would like to see a grow journal on someone tryn to accomplish this.....
 

JohnMotayo

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I came into this thread with my hopes held high, then dashed, but then I realized why not just after both are fully grown just cook them in the same pan? Seems to solve that problem, right? Haha. It's a nice thought but yeah, I would imagine although probably possible, it's not very feasible and you may end up ultimately mutating it to the point where the Marijuana is no longer what it used to be, and where's the fun in that? Haha.
 

Michiganjesse

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and the guy tryna make herb and hops cross to make thc beer ,,,,and those plants are related so if you cant do them you cant do anything,lol
They were able to cross a Japanese hops with cannabis but not naturally did it in a test tube,but it was done. It was grafted in a lab.
 

JohnMotayo

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They were able to cross a Japanese hops with cannabis but not naturally did it in a test tube,but it was done. It was grafted in a lab.
Can't imagine it turned out all too great but I figure with enough science, growing anything together is possible. Whether it will still even be considered "marijuana" after intermingling with other things is a whole other question, though.
 

Michiganjesse

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Can't imagine it turned out all too great but I figure with enough science, growing anything together is possible. Whether it will still even be considered "marijuana" after intermingling with other things is a whole other question, though.
It really don't work in nature but someday science may grow a new kind of plant crossing two types. Not great yet though
 

DaveInCave

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In theory this is possible and is even quite common thing, because chromosome duplication, interspecific introgression, and horizontal gene transfer in plants is way more common than in animals. In fact, many of the plant species we know and cultivate have evolved exactly like that.
Modern wheat, oranges, kiwis, pineapples, coffee, maize, strawberries are all forms of hybrids of 2 different species of plants, or a polyploid of the parent species.

However, the chances of such hybrids occuring between so distant species is slim, and the F1 offspring genetic make up, if viable and fertile, will be all over the place.
An easier way to make cannabinoid-containing fruits would be genetically engineering the entire cannabinoid synthesis pathway (which I guesstimate to be involving around 50-75 genes) into a fruit-bearing tree and hope it functions correctly.
Very challenging, yet doable, especially now, when there's a system called CRISPR which allows you to more or less edit the genetic code like you can edit text in Microsoft Word.

For a comparison back in the day when I made my first GMO rye strain with 3 exogenous genes incorporated into its genome, it took about 3.5 years and about $400,000 in funding, it was done with way less sophisticated methods, a lot of trial and error and reliance on random chance.

But the world is moving towards legalization of Cannabis and extracts, I don't see any commercial viability for cannabinoids containing fruits, and if there's no commercial viability, you will never get such project funded.
 

dannyboy602

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The world is moving towards legalization of Cannabis and extracts, I don't see any commercial viability for cannabinoids containing fruits.
Nor will there be when it's easier to smoke a joint with one hand and eat an apple out of the other. The end result will be the same. You fill your tummy and get stoned at the same time.
 

Mysteryoption

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So none of this was useful but I will leave this hear in case something does come along. I am in search of some answers and seems no one has the answers as no one has ever seen this before. I've done my research what I can because my strawberry plant has had a lot of abnormal changes. It started as a small normal strawberry plant I had from last season. A foot and a bit away was a MJ plant. The strawberry plant had new growth leaves that now look like the MJ leaves and genetically changed. A normal strawberry plant gets about 40cm round tops. Mine has reached 72 inches across diagonal from corner to corner and 69 straight across which is not normal. It has turned into a bush like plant in stead of viny. I can pick up all the branches as where it used to search out like a vine dropping new roots along the way. I have been looking for answers with the DNA change in regards to if it could possibly be making thc berries or if the berries will be normal. This plants got more flowers and berries forming than I have ever seen. I have more pictures for someone with more knowledge.
 

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Mysteryoption

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So none of this was useful but I will leave this hear in case something does come along. I am in search of some answers and seems no one has the answers as no one has ever seen this before. I've done my research what I can because my strawberry plant has had a lot of abnormal changes. It started as a small normal strawberry plant I had from last season. A foot and a bit away was a MJ plant. The strawberry plant had new growth leaves that now look like the MJ leaves and genetically changed. A normal strawberry plant gets about 40cm round tops. Mine has reached 72 inches across diagonal from corner to corner and 69 straight across which is not normal. It has turned into a bush like plant in stead of viny. I can pick up all the branches as where it used to search out like a vine dropping new roots along the way. I have been looking for answers with the DNA change in regards to if it could possibly be making thc berries or if the berries will be normal. This plants got more flowers and berries forming than I have ever seen. I have more pictures for someone with more knowledge.
Yes strawberries as perenials have the ability to combine with other plants from what I have read through the root system. That is what I believe happened as my MJ has not chosen it's sex yet to have pollinated it.
 

xtsho

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So none of this was useful but I will leave this hear in case something does come along. I am in search of some answers and seems no one has the answers as no one has ever seen this before. I've done my research what I can because my strawberry plant has had a lot of abnormal changes. It started as a small normal strawberry plant I had from last season. A foot and a bit away was a MJ plant. The strawberry plant had new growth leaves that now look like the MJ leaves and genetically changed. A normal strawberry plant gets about 40cm round tops. Mine has reached 72 inches across diagonal from corner to corner and 69 straight across which is not normal. It has turned into a bush like plant in stead of viny. I can pick up all the branches as where it used to search out like a vine dropping new roots along the way. I have been looking for answers with the DNA change in regards to if it could possibly be making thc berries or if the berries will be normal. This plants got more flowers and berries forming than I have ever seen. I have more pictures for someone with more knowledge.
Good grief. That plant is not a strawberry that crossed with cannabis. It's not even a strawberry. It's an invasive weed called an Indian Mock Strawberry. Strawberries have white flowers not yellow.

Whatever you believed happened didn't.

 

Mysteryoption

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Good grief. That plant is not a strawberry that crossed with cannabis. It's not even a strawberry. It's an invasive weed called an Indian Mock Strawberry. Strawberries have white flowers not yellow.

Whatever you believed happened didn't.

Mock strawberries still produce strawberries but this was in fact bought from a nursery and does have a strawberry on it so believe what you want. Whatever it is was nothing more than a normal strawberry plant last season and is not a new plany.
 

Mysteryoption

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Mock strawberries still produce strawberries but this was in fact bought from a nursery and does have a strawberry on it so believe what you want. Whatever it is was nothing more than a normal strawberry plant last season and is not a new plany.
As well the base leaves are not the same as the ones on top they changed as it grew from the original to new growth.
 

xtsho

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Mock strawberries still produce strawberries but this was in fact bought from a nursery and does have a strawberry on it so believe what you want. Whatever it is was nothing more than a normal strawberry plant last season and is not a new plany.
I apologize for sounding as harsh as I did.

Lets give this another try.

That's a Mock Strawberry. I don't know how it got there but it's not the result of a regular strawberry mingling with the roots of a cannabis plant.

:peace:
 

spek9

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I apologize for sounding as harsh as I did.

Lets give this another try.

That's a Mock Strawberry. I don't know how it got there but it's not the result of a regular strawberry mingling with the roots of a cannabis plant.

:peace:
...and here I thought I was one step closer to my life goal of creating my very own Cannabanannaberry tree :(
 

Mysteryoption

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Mock strawberries still produce strawberries but this was in fact bought from a nursery and does have a strawberry on it so believe what you want. Whatever it is was nothing more than a normal strawberry plant last season and is not a new plany.
Looking up a mock strawberry and how big it grows still does not grow as large as this plant or explain it. It started at the base as more rounded leaves and got pointy as they got new growth. It stands over 2 feet from the centre base where all those branches come out from. Last season looked like a normal plant and this year has taken over half my garden and I can raise all the branches as they are not viny at all.
 

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Mysteryoption

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Looking up a mock strawberry and how big it grows still does not grow as large as this plant or explain it. It started at the base as more rounded leaves and got pointy as they got new growth. It stands over 2 feet from the centre base where all those branches come out from. Last season looked like a normal plant and this year has taken over half my garden and I can raise all the branches as they are not viny at all.
I have been looking at all sorts of pictures but sorry I am not convinced this is a mock strawberry. It looks like my other strawberry plants which are perfectly normal with white flowers. Not sure what to tell you about the yellow flowers.
 

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Mysteryoption

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I have been looking at all sorts of pictures but sorry I am not convinced this is a mock strawberry. It looks like my other strawberry plants which are perfectly normal with white flowers. Not sure what to tell you about the yellow flowers.
It isn't impossible for a strawberry plant to have yellow leaves unless it is wild, all it means is I have purchased a GMO plant. I have read research on genomes and have no reason to question what my strawberry plant is. Sorry you are not mature enough to do some actual research into the possability of buying these in store. I stand my ground it is in fact a strawberry plant and strawberry plants can be influenced by many things including apple trees and tomatoes and various others. They carry 15 different DNA genes in some. Look into GMO as that's what most places sell now.
 

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indy650

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No, you can't do this.
As already mentioned, different species simply cannot interbreed this way.
You can't cross a tobacco plant with a tomato, you can't cross a monkey with a dog, and you can't cross a cannabis plant with a strawberry.

With respect to hops, that plant is distantly related to cannabis, but its nowhere near close enough that a simple cross is possible.
I've been told its possible to GRAFT a cannabis plant onto a hops vine, or vice versa.
Now, I don't know if this is true, but even if it were, you'd basically just be creating a "frankenstein" plant that was part hops, part cannabis. The cannabis part of it would still look, smell, and behave the same as any other cannabis plant, so you wouldn't fool anyone, and you wouldn't end up with THC-laden hops flowers.

With respect to what you might term genetic engineering, yes it is possible to transfer individual genes from one species to another.
Some of this kind of work has been done with tobacco plants, I think, and for obvious reasons, a tobacco plant might be a good candidate to transfer THC production genes.
The problem is that doing this sort of work is highly technical, complicated and quite expensive.

With respect to THC production, that's not going to be one gene to transfer but rather a whole complex set of them, involving synthesis proteins, transport proteins, regulatory proteins, etc. I'm pretty sure that these particular enzymes and regulatory mechanisms for cannabinoid production haven't even been worked out yet. Even assuming they were, transfering them wholesale from one species to another in a functional way would provide an unprecedented technical challenge. For example, who is to say that THC production wouldn't simply gum up and kill a tobacco plant?

So far as I know, nobody has ever accomplished anything remotely close to that before. I wouldn't say its "impossible" but at the present time its effectively science fiction.

If you want to continue with these sorts of pipe dreams, I have two alternative ways to go.

a. Find *another* plant that produces THC like molecules, and then genetically engineer and/or selectively breed it to create cannabinoids. Unfortunately, humans being what they are, I'd imagine that if any other such plant existed, that would be well known already.

b. Selectively breed and/or genetically engineer an actual cannabis plant to the point where it no longer physically resembled one. Again, this would pose a massive technical challenge, though I think this particular angle of attack would be quite a bit easier than say trying to cross a hemp plant with a blueberry!
I know this is old but just wanted to mention that a graft with hops has been done. There is really no benefit from it but it can in fact be done
 
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