CSI humboldt thread

pepedindunuffin said:
Sealed pack inside a metal gasketed ammo box with silica gel packs in my 60f basement. Zero issues with the other 3 packs I popped.
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same issue a while back with some pirates of the emerald. I reached out on ig he responded and it seemed like I was going to get a replacement. however he said to send an email to ect I did and no response. not a huge deal but I would avoid his regs from now on myself. popped a few packs of csi with no problems and great results. wish you better luck than I had I also didn't continue to pursue the replacements any further than explained here.
 
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You know what’s missing through all these pages? The smoke test, names and looks mean shit, why is it every time someone asks what the actual smokes like, no reply. Odd

I’ve run this gear out for three years now and have yet to find a true winner in any pack. Looks good, sometimes has good terps, quite often does not. The end result and most important part is the smoke test. Time and time again csi gear is weak ass crud, sorry

This guy has about 500 strains going, you think he tests any of it? Impossible, he keeps the gems to himself and high roller cliental, you all get the let over trash. His best lines are not being used to produce your seeds, guaranteed

Some of the weakest shit I’ve grown in 25yrs of growing. Oh and heaven forbid don’t grow this shit outdoors, zero resistance, every disease you can think of will eat them alive. complete unstable junk.

When is the last time you seen a dispensary anywhere in the world selling CSI flower? Answer, NEVER and there’s a reason for that
 
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SkullyC said:
You know what’s missing through all these pages? The smoke test, names and looks mean shit, why is it every time someone asks what the actual smokes like, no reply. Odd

I’ve run this gear out for three years now and have yet to find a true winner in any pack. Looks good, sometimes has good terps, quite often does not. The end result and most important part is the smoke test. Time and time again csi gear is weak ass crud, sorry

This guy has about 500 strains going, you think he tests any of it? Impossible, he keeps the gems to himself and high roller cliental, you all get the let over trash. His best lines are not being used to produce your seeds, guaranteed

Some of the weakest shit I’ve grown in 25yrs of growing. Oh and heaven forbid don’t grow this shit outdoors, zero resistance, every disease you can think of will eat them alive. complete unstable junk.

When is the last time you seen a dispensary anywhere in the world selling CSI flower? Answer, NEVER and there’s a reason for that
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I'm sorry you've had a bad experience. I'm guessing people in this thread will probably disagree with you based on theirs. Some people think MMS is great, others don't. I hope you're able to move on and finally find something that checks all your boxes.
 
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SkullyC said:
You know what’s missing through all these pages? The smoke test, names and looks mean shit, why is it every time someone asks what the actual smokes like, no reply. Odd

I’ve run this gear out for three years now and have yet to find a true winner in any pack. Looks good, sometimes has good terps, quite often does not. The end result and most important part is the smoke test. Time and time again csi gear is weak ass crud, sorry

This guy has about 500 strains going, you think he tests any of it? Impossible, he keeps the gems to himself and high roller cliental, you all get the let over trash. His best lines are not being used to produce your seeds, guaranteed

Some of the weakest shit I’ve grown in 25yrs of growing. Oh and heaven forbid don’t grow this shit outdoors, zero resistance, every disease you can think of will eat them alive. complete unstable junk.

When is the last time you seen a dispensary anywhere in the world selling CSI flower? Answer, NEVER and there’s a reason for that
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It could be that S1's are more of a gamble than people want to admit. I respect breeders that take the time and care enough to find a good reliable stud vs. sprinkling fem pollen on everything and calling it a pure line or a clone in seed form. Way too much of that going on in my opinion.
With that said I do have a csi bubba s1 that I just put into flower, it's healthy and looks like it should, with some luck it might be worth keeping around for a while. So I am agreeing with you to a point but I think it is the overall seed game as it currently is not just one guy reversing clones.
 
Sometimes you have to look at maybe the seeds not being the problem. Hundreds of satisfied people perhaps the problem isn’t with the seeds
 
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SkullyC said:
When is the last time you seen a dispensary anywhere in the world selling CSI flower? Answer, NEVER and there’s a reason for that
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Obama kush and t-1000 got pretty popular, greendot labs in Colorado sells flower of multiple csi strains. Jungle boys and alien labs had old family purple. 710 labs runs csi shit. When was the last time you got good weed at a dispensary?
 
SkullyC said:
You know what’s missing through all these pages? The smoke test, names and looks mean shit, why is it every time someone asks what the actual smokes like, no reply. Odd

I’ve run this gear out for three years now and have yet to find a true winner in any pack. Looks good, sometimes has good terps, quite often does not. The end result and most important part is the smoke test. Time and time again csi gear is weak ass crud, sorry

This guy has about 500 strains going, you think he tests any of it? Impossible, he keeps the gems to himself and high roller cliental, you all get the let over trash. His best lines are not being used to produce your seeds, guaranteed

Some of the weakest shit I’ve grown in 25yrs of growing. Oh and heaven forbid don’t grow this shit outdoors, zero resistance, every disease you can think of will eat them alive. complete unstable junk.

When is the last time you seen a dispensary anywhere in the world selling CSI flower? Answer, NEVER and there’s a reason for that
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I’ve grown hundreds of his seeds. Some of his crosses stand out. Most don’t. Especially the newer ones using the hype shit IMO. However, that’s TBE just like any other chucker’s work. They can’t predict accurately how strains A and B are going to react to one another. CSI’s crosses using his own keepers have potential and fanfare. For example, some including myself are fond of the 5150.
CSI’s reversals and crosses using known and available genetics are just that… Crosses that can be easily replicated by anyone with the same access to the same cuts. Just from a growers standpoint, besides criticizing his choices in pairings, or the traits he does choose when he actually selects for ‘Breeding’, all one can truly complain about is the quality of his actual seeds. Personally, I have had germ issues with csi. No more than many breeders. Some crosses worse than others. Some of his seeds seem immature occasionally and I have seen mold on the shell of a few when germinating.
That being said, I for one am glad he has reversed certain strains. 91, bubba, Tk, etc. Availability has been a plus! As for specific standout crosses, I believe it’s all about the specific pairings and how they mesh. My favorite cross from the 91 reversal was the Legend Og crinkle cut x chem 91. There are other 91 crosses he made using better moms than the crinkle, but the crinkle plays the best with the 91 IME. I had to grow a dozen plus 91 crosses to find that out for sure.
I do think he’s lost his way in some regards with all the high priced seeds from lame chucks, but no way is he holding out on his best genetics. That is laughably idiotic to suggest. If he had a unicorn he’d sell it. I’m 100% sure from experience that there are bettter breeders with better crosses. I’m sure there are inferior ones as well. As for his business I have some complaints regarding responding to issues, but must praise his delivery speed and his generosity. Also, smoke reports are completely subjective. You might want to hear what some rando thinks about the weed he smokes, but it doesn’t prove a thing! Structure and dominant terps will tell you just as much valuable information about a cross as someone’s opinion on potency. As for pests and pathogens I find it hard to believe considering my experience with multiple types of cannabis that every plant was susceptible to all. Narrow leaf and broad leaf varieties just don’t react the same to pathogens and pests, each has distinct vulnerabilities. Further, I would second other’s criticism of your dispensary comment. My csi flower (not every pheno, but my top 10%) kills most top shelf my friends have purchased in plenty of stores. Legal weed is dumpster juice.
 
And to be clear. Many of the non excellent siblings were pretty good mids. Especially the mendo purple. Lots of great variations. The chem d s1s were all good in their own way, all produced lots of resin. But only one had top shelf flavor, funk and effects. The urkle pack were all mids accept one very good one and one pretty good one.
 
S1’s are more miss than hit… you can always find all the reasons why they aren’t quite as good as the original … very few genetics make the exception… like the old tahoe OG…. Every S1 out of that was TKO smoke … then when you’d Go S2 you’d find hay stacks again
 
Duke Wellington said:
From my limited experience, I'd agree. Although I think there are more winners in some s1s than others.

I personally love looking through s1s to find breeding moms for personal projects.
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For me it's wanting to try these legendary clones I've read or listened to on podcasts. My only experience with anything legendary is the old 4way from the 90's. But now my state is legal I can actually play around. The lottery aspect of an S1 sounds fun though a little pricy. I've had great luck with several breeders. I'm not to keen on buying on clones.
 
insulintype1 said:
For me it's wanting to try these legendary clones I've read or listened to on podcasts. My only experience with anything legendary is the old 4way from the 90's. But now my state is legal I can actually play around. The lottery aspect of an S1 sounds fun though a little pricy. I've had great luck with several breeders. I'm not to keen on buying on clones.
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I share the same sentiment.

I think as long as your expectations are informed and realistic, s1s are awesome.
 
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