Cultivating with intent to make seeds - questions to old pro's

Hey all, I have a growth going right now of Harle-Tsu seeds from our recently departed friend Lawrence Ringo (RIP ) I planted these plants on 1-1-14 and around mid March they were getting too big for my T-5's indoors and started burning the tops, so I put them outside in sunshine (Los Angeles area ) about 2 weeks later I had 2 LARGE males(6 feet tall) and started collecting the pollen, I also had 2 beauties that were almost as big , females and I used a small water painting brush from my grand daughter's art collection and I painted the hell out of EVERY white hair on each flower on both trees .

Now just to use round numbers, the packaging on the Harle-Tsu envelope says 9 weeks , and just for the sake of rounding up let's use April 1 as my counting point does this mean that by June 3rd I should be at my . Harvest time ? ************************************************************************************************************************************
Here's my question for you pros that have grown seeds before: How much longer past the regular harvest of a UN-pollinated flower do you wait to get ready seeds ?

I don't know if I understand what you're saying but you don't wait any longer, if you want seeds you either have to pollinate or possibly stress your girls to make seeds. You can't just leave unpollinated plants and get seeds

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Those 9 weeks are in reality more like 10-11 weeks - assuming the females are still inside.

burnedout1958 said:

How much longer past the regular harvest of a UN-pollinated flower do you wait to get ready seeds?

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That depends on when you pollinate them, as in how early/late in the cycle. I've done a seed run early this year and 99% of the seeds were beautifully ripe at the end of the flower cycle. The seeded calyxes will crack open slightly and you will be able to see the seeds, pull a few out and see how far they are. As with many things, it slightly varies per strain as well. It takes about 4-8 weeks after pollination to get ripe seeds. Just as with buds plants don't adhere to a fixed schedule set upfront, they'll be done when their done, just keep an eye on them and you'll be able to tell yourself.

Well to my understanding seeds take 4-6 weeks to mature with the 6th week being ideal I believe so pollinate week 3 or 4 and let them go 9-10 weeks

wyteberrywidow said:

Well to my understanding seeds take 4-6 weeks to mature with the 6th week being ideal I believe so pollinate week 3 or 4 and let them go 9-10 weeks

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not sure what you mean by pollinate week 3 or 4 ? please explain? is it wait 3 weeks after the flowers grow the white hairs ? to pollinate them ?

Sativied said:

Those 9 weeks are in reality more like 10-11 weeks - assuming the females are still inside.

That depends on when you pollinate them, as in how early/late in the cycle. I've done a seed run early this year and 99% of the seeds were beautifully ripe at the end of the flower cycle. The seeded calyxes will crack open slightly and you will be able to see the seeds, pull a few out and see how far they are. As with many things, it slightly varies per strain as well. It takes about 4-8 weeks after pollination to get ripe seeds. Just as with buds plants don't adhere to a fixed schedule set upfront, they'll be done when their done, just keep an eye on them and you'll be able to tell yourself.

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Well since both male and females were planted together on Jan 1st, being new at this , as soon as I had males with sacks of pollen busting open (yellow) I collected the pollen, and the next day I painted 2 females with pollen.
Was that too soon ? or does it matter ?

How far were the females? With pollinate in week3-4 he means week 3 or 4 flowering. That is pretty much around the point where the females have maximum amount of pistils and aren't really budding yet, i.e. before the calyxes really start to swell. The pistils (white hairs) catch the pollen, if you painted it when there weren't a lot of pistils yet you were too soon. You can pollinate multiple times though.

Sativied said:

How far were the females? With pollinate in week3-4 he means week 3 or 4 flowering. That is pretty much around the point where the females have maximum amount of pistils and aren't really budding yet (i.e. before the calyxes really start to swell. The pistils (white hairs) catch the pollen, if you painted it when there weren't a lot of pistils yet you were too soon. You can pollinate multiple times though.

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looks like I jumped the gun then, cause they were in week 1, but I did cover them in pollen, I mean covered them.

about to head out and pollinate them ALL. again this might be a soon late, but what the heck. I have 12 more just planted this week , so I can always do it again in 3 months from now.

Sativied said:

How far were the females? With pollinate in week3-4 he means week 3 or 4 flowering. That is pretty much around the point where the females have maximum amount of pistils and aren't really budding yet, i.e. before the calyxes really start to swell. The pistils (white hairs) catch the pollen, if you painted it when there weren't a lot of pistils yet you were too soon. You can pollinate multiple times though.

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He answered it for ya thanks

You mentioned in the first post you painted 'every' pistil. Using a brush is more for targeted pollination, if you want to pollinate only a few buds. Next time if you want to pollinate everything, just poor it over a few buds and turn on one or two circulation fans. Or literally blow it out of your hand like magic dust

Additionally, you can see when the pollination worked well. The pistils will turn brown/amber/gold within roughly 24 hours.

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Awesome information, I just went out there and I have 2 that still had white pistills all over and me being the overkill king I painted each and every one, the ones I mentioned already had those brown ambers pistills and figured they had to be, to my (not really) surprise I found one that was also brown amber that I had not done, but with 5 large male plants outside and the santa ana winds that blew 5 days ago I should not be surprised.

thank you both for helping me out with this. my recent tinctures are so strong it put my wife and son into a permanent high for 2 days (made from my harvest of high THC collection ) guess I will soon have a 50/50 THC CBD tincture to keep her happy. ( just wishful thinking, nothing keeps her happy for long ) My autistic son is loving it all

thanks again guys will give you a update in June sometime.

Sativied said:

The seeded calyxes will crack open slightly and you will be able to see the seeds, pull a few out and see how far they are.

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That's a good point. You can see the the seeds are ripe when the calyxes have swollen and you can see dark seeds in them.

Sounds like you are going to have a lot of F2 seeds to work with.

^ Yeah hes gonna have enough seeds for a lifetime from a few fully pollinated monster bushes!

yeah, just wait for mother nature to take its course, the plant will literally have seeds dropping out of it with the amount that you pollinated.

That's good to hear guys, Thanks

one of these days I will have to learn what the differencve is from a F1 to a F2. I do have one of the 4 plants now pollinated that has 3 tops dark brown almost like burned, I noticed a seed popping thru so I picked it, just to look see. it was still a yellowish cream color. but what's with the burning is it normal. only one plant has it, so it must be no.

thought I would thank you all for your input , wish you a happy fathers day and tell you , that due to a caterpillar attack , I ended up with a cup of seeds. not bad for a first try.

now that I own a bottle of pure BT this will not be a problem in future growths