InTheValley
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well, i have 1 female show on the 6on 10off light schedule. Its the 1 i fimmed. 
CUSTOM LIGHTING SCHEDULE DURING BLOOM
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jaggwaa
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Its good to see you experimenting. I assume that schedule is for flowering right.
InTheValley
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yes, these have been on 12/12 since seed, but switched to 6/10 on Saturday.
InTheValley
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we are rollin along. day 26 from seed. Front right, is 90% male, all the rest lookin female. 18 inches tall. We are on day 7 of the light cycle. ( day 5 real time )
also, scored a bean in some bagseed, which popped today and is in the cup. No clue what it is, but its awesome stuff,lol. might be the frostiest Ive ever seen.
also, scored a bean in some bagseed, which popped today and is in the cup. No clue what it is, but its awesome stuff,lol. might be the frostiest Ive ever seen.
InTheValley
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going to carry on with this experiment, BUT, they do seem to be lacking a tad, although they are showing sex, so we can say they do flower under 10 oFF with the Far red night puck. they might need 8 hours of light, like i was told id have better luck with, but will keep pushing on to see how flowering goes to maturation, day 9 of custom light, day day 6 real time
SSGrower
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Can you increase light intensity?
I think it would be worth while for you to run the initiator puck in the am too.
InTheValley
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Man, they are at 60,000 lux right now, around 900 PAR, they arnt liking it to much as it is. I did turn the Reds on just now, like you said might help. they actually seem to be like 5 days behind,.. then 2 arnt showing sex yet, and I know on 12/12, they show in 21 days from seed. and the ones that are showing pistils, dont seem to be "poppin" like 12/12..... Im going to contemplate some things today. Might go to 12/12 again, just to push the 2 others to show sex, then might even go 18/4 to reveg and scrog them out for a couple weeks.
I know this strain, and its definitely lacking behind. Plus, i only have 1 grow area i can use, and the seedling of that frosty shit above popped the soil today. I have to grow that out, and seeing its the single one from bag, Im betting its a female, and i want to save those genetics, because its freakin dank shit. If it somehow is a male, Im definitely going to polly this FireOG cross with it. im dry now, and wont be smoking till this run is done, so theres that too,lol..
decisions decisions,
I know this strain, and its definitely lacking behind. Plus, i only have 1 grow area i can use, and the seedling of that frosty shit above popped the soil today. I have to grow that out, and seeing its the single one from bag, Im betting its a female, and i want to save those genetics, because its freakin dank shit. If it somehow is a male, Im definitely going to polly this FireOG cross with it. im dry now, and wont be smoking till this run is done, so theres that too,lol..
decisions decisions,
InTheValley
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and, it might even be the stupid fkn pots i decided to go with. they are 4 inches deep, smh. Pulled the male today, but its in this pic, .. The pots with little depth was also a experiment. Like fab pots, but Im scared of the mold,lol.. 
jaggwaa
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Look, these plants belong to planet earth, and takes up their light from the sun, and the earth revolves around the sun. That this is going on for millions of years, I dont think really you can divide the day into two or three. It might be possible with 100ss of breedings and in each giving the plants little shorter day, after maybe 20 years, u get a strain that has a day length of 8 hours and 4hours of darkness or 4 hours of light and 8 hours of darknes for flowering. But the strains we have today, they are most likely genetically coded to work with 24 hour day cycle. Thats being said, the manipulation we can make is shorter day day time or the night time. I have one experience where, 10-14 for flowering was way faster. Cant say about yeilds, but this run, i had 12-12 and iam in 10th week with most of the pistils still white.
Though i changed it to 10-14 couple days ago and iam already seeing a difference. I think there is nothing more to find out in regards to dividing the day into 2 12 hours days. On another planet it might be possible, But for now, iam thinking 18-6 for veg. 10-14 for flower, give it a week or two extra at harvest. and 24hr light for clones and seedlings. So far its working.
I think whats not good with 12-12 is your plant will grow more, but then iti will finish late. I might have to go beyond 100 days on this run, or at least a couple colas will cook more, I wanna see the full potential.
Though i changed it to 10-14 couple days ago and iam already seeing a difference. I think there is nothing more to find out in regards to dividing the day into 2 12 hours days. On another planet it might be possible, But for now, iam thinking 18-6 for veg. 10-14 for flower, give it a week or two extra at harvest. and 24hr light for clones and seedlings. So far its working.
I think whats not good with 12-12 is your plant will grow more, but then iti will finish late. I might have to go beyond 100 days on this run, or at least a couple colas will cook more, I wanna see the full potential.
InTheValley
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can you explain this a bit more in depth?
InTheValley
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Pulled the Male, to look at the roots, and they look great, a bunch for 4 weeks. Transplanted into a supersize McDonald cup to see how it reacts to the transplant, just for shits and giggles i guess.
this experiment would knock off 3 weeks of flower time, but if its laggin, 3 more weeks to finish anyways, would be insufficient, i would think. In reality, there are autos that finish just as fast, (45 days) but was just curious if 10 off with the puck to still keep them in flower mode. that theory is true to my findings, or i would not have pistils today. So, we can definitely say the Puck works for sure. Now, its what can the buds actually produce size wise.
Now that I think about it hillbill, are you referring to the Pot container itself, as the variable? Like, I should of used the pots i would normally use, that i have produced in the past? If that is your point, I absolutely agree with that.
this experiment would knock off 3 weeks of flower time, but if its laggin, 3 more weeks to finish anyways, would be insufficient, i would think. In reality, there are autos that finish just as fast, (45 days) but was just curious if 10 off with the puck to still keep them in flower mode. that theory is true to my findings, or i would not have pistils today. So, we can definitely say the Puck works for sure. Now, its what can the buds actually produce size wise.
Now that I think about it hillbill, are you referring to the Pot container itself, as the variable? Like, I should of used the pots i would normally use, that i have produced in the past? If that is your point, I absolutely agree with that.
jaggwaa
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Well here is the thing. I know when waiting for harvest, 1 day is equal to 100 years. But after my first harvest, i realized that there is this misconception about harvest times, its not 8 weeks at, minimum its above 90 to 100 days. Excluding autos, i have no experience with them. Main reason is if you find a true gem, u just cant replicate it. m a keeper kinda person.
I believe the actual swell, the actual doubling of size happens after most of us have already harvested. I will test this coming harvest, as iam planing to cut one branch at a time, some of my colas will go beyond 100 days of 12-12.
I also want to dry a plant in the pot. Someone very close to me highly suggests that, but that could take about a month. This time i cant to this, because of my reveg experiment, cant let the plant die. But my alternate grow, i have 6 strains, one of them was a seed i got from my last harvest. it was white looking, and till now, it has acted as auto flower, i dont know weather i can get a seed like that from a feminised seed plant, but that thing showed pistils within 10 days of germination, and after that i actually saw small calyxs . That plant 100% flowering in veg, The structure is very strange, it has 3 pointed leaves, but other than that, its the most uniform plant i have seen. It looks like that plant will make one giant cola of 5 feet. ......i wish
Also this time, they are in pure soil, soil you get from riverbeds, drainage is a problem, it takes a lot of time to just water, but its an experiment. First thing i noticed, super big leaves. 4 of these plants are clones from my very first grow. They never had this large leaves before, triple the size i got in coco mix. But lets see, currently iam seeing a nitrogen def, but iam not using any fertilizer, just some local cow dung manure. And i planed to let it go like this. Here is one question for you, Just go back 100 years, there was no coco, perlite, vermiculite, this lite and that lite.
Just good old soil. I tried to find anything related to indoor growing in pure soil, but there is nothing online, even people dig holes and fill them with all that lite stuff. Think about earth. Its packed with soil, where it gets its aeration? how the roots below the surface of planet earth, without coco shoco breathes?
And if u look at the vegetation.... its enormous. Thus m trying it out myself. ok. Thats too much to read for ya. Peace
I believe the actual swell, the actual doubling of size happens after most of us have already harvested. I will test this coming harvest, as iam planing to cut one branch at a time, some of my colas will go beyond 100 days of 12-12.
I also want to dry a plant in the pot. Someone very close to me highly suggests that, but that could take about a month. This time i cant to this, because of my reveg experiment, cant let the plant die. But my alternate grow, i have 6 strains, one of them was a seed i got from my last harvest. it was white looking, and till now, it has acted as auto flower, i dont know weather i can get a seed like that from a feminised seed plant, but that thing showed pistils within 10 days of germination, and after that i actually saw small calyxs . That plant 100% flowering in veg, The structure is very strange, it has 3 pointed leaves, but other than that, its the most uniform plant i have seen. It looks like that plant will make one giant cola of 5 feet. ......i wish
Also this time, they are in pure soil, soil you get from riverbeds, drainage is a problem, it takes a lot of time to just water, but its an experiment. First thing i noticed, super big leaves. 4 of these plants are clones from my very first grow. They never had this large leaves before, triple the size i got in coco mix. But lets see, currently iam seeing a nitrogen def, but iam not using any fertilizer, just some local cow dung manure. And i planed to let it go like this. Here is one question for you, Just go back 100 years, there was no coco, perlite, vermiculite, this lite and that lite.
Just good old soil. I tried to find anything related to indoor growing in pure soil, but there is nothing online, even people dig holes and fill them with all that lite stuff. Think about earth. Its packed with soil, where it gets its aeration? how the roots below the surface of planet earth, without coco shoco breathes?
And if u look at the vegetation.... its enormous. Thus m trying it out myself. ok. Thats too much to read for ya. Peace
I know this is an old Post....I hope your better at math now
InTheValley
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must look at trics under scoop. When they turn amber or dark, its dead, ( the Tric ) 50/50 clear/cloudy, they are done.Well here is the thing. I know when waiting for harvest, 1 day is equal to 100 years. But after my first harvest, i realized that there is this misconception about harvest times, its not 8 weeks at, minimum its above 90 to 100 days. Excluding autos, i have no experience with them. Main reason is if you find a true gem, u just cant replicate it. m a keeper kinda person.
I believe the actual swell, the actual doubling of size happens after most of us have already harvested. I will test this coming harvest, as iam planing to cut one branch at a time, some of my colas will go beyond 100 days of 12-12.
I also want to dry a plant in the pot. Someone very close to me highly suggests that, but that could take about a month. This time i cant to this, because of my reveg experiment, cant let the plant die. But my alternate grow, i have 6 strains, one of them was a seed i got from my last harvest. it was white looking, and till now, it has acted as auto flower, i dont know weather i can get a seed like that from a feminised seed plant, but that thing showed pistils within 10 days of germination, and after that i actually saw small calyxs . That plant 100% flowering in veg, The structure is very strange, it has 3 pointed leaves, but other than that, its the most uniform plant i have seen. It looks like that plant will make one giant cola of 5 feet. ......i wish
Also this time, they are in pure soil, soil you get from riverbeds, drainage is a problem, it takes a lot of time to just water, but its an experiment. First thing i noticed, super big leaves. 4 of these plants are clones from my very first grow. They never had this large leaves before, triple the size i got in coco mix. But lets see, currently iam seeing a nitrogen def, but iam not using any fertilizer, just some local cow dung manure. And i planed to let it go like this. Here is one question for you, Just go back 100 years, there was no coco, perlite, vermiculite, this lite and that lite.
Just good old soil. I tried to find anything related to indoor growing in pure soil, but there is nothing online, even people dig holes and fill them with all that lite stuff. Think about earth. Its packed with soil, where it gets its aeration? how the roots below the surface of planet earth, without coco shoco breathes?
And if u look at the vegetation.... its enormous. Thus m trying it out myself. ok. Thats too much to read for ya. Peace
jaggwaa
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i dont think amber is dead, dead is the maroon, or very dark amber, thats dead for sure. you will see that dark maroon or amber concentrated to the bottom on that tric head. But hey, just let one of your cola go longer, thats my plan, see for yourself and then decide. Also remember clear tric has no value, it just increases paranoia. I say there should be no clear, 40 amber, 50 cloudy and 10% that dead darkest amber. Thats a must but it will be mostly on leaves. Just think about it. Trics on leaves are the oldest, and they take weeks to get amber, or cloudy, how long your buds inside will take to get cloudy? And that swell just happened within last 2 weeks. If you go with the normal amber cloudy clear theory, yeah from outside, you might see some cloudy, but inside of ur bud, which u cant see, will all be clear.