Cutting 3 weeks off flowering time

Chillin chillin

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Mycorrhizae, bat guano. Works. I use FoxFarm Bat Guano with mycorrhizae and humic acid. It's my favorite amendment.
Humid acid is not optimal for hydro systems. For hydro use fulvic acid.
Try this 1 part fulvic acid, 1 part carbo load, 1part em1, 100 ml great white to 4 parts water. Put this mix in a 5 gal bucket and secure the lid on tightly. Shake vigorously for 2 days then use 5 ml per gallon. It's a sweet mix
 

whitebb2727

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Good to hear that, it would be nice if you have some pic from your own crop, I tried to load up your profile but was't allowed.
It is not easy to get fat, hard, dense buds and finish without getting rot or other problems. If you don't have anything from your own, it's ok, at least pointing me to some thread that you think they are the same or better what you seeing here. I would like to learn more.


No one is counting from the day buds starting. I would lmao if that is what he is doing.
I'm not claiming to be an expert.

I'm sure @Chillin chillin thinks I'm a dick. I'm not. If he can run a little longer and not get rot it would benefit him. I'm not even saying he wrong doing it that way.

I grow in a small place and outdoors. I have a link in my signature.

This bud was the size of a pop can and a little longer. It was solid. No airflow to the center of it. The other was 18 inches at chop
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I can walk on water and not get wet.. you have no clue what's in mbferts hormone cocktail your just going off what some backyard chemist dumps in a bottle
Maybe maybe not. Why don't you try for yourself? I tried their hormone and it works, also their early and lake pk worked, at least comparable with Cyco nutrient. however, they are not cost effective compare to Cyco. Only their hormone worth it. However their cust. is BS, they sent a broken bottle in the mail, I took pictured and they said a replacement will be sent out, which never arrived. Recently, I found out another replacement (thanks to the forums), this replacement come from a much more reliable company and have the same main ingredients.
Mbfert come from Michigan known as a chemical state, am I wrong? So no wonder if they can grad a hold of these chemical for low price. Silica, dirt cheap, can't be fake, is it so hard to believe it is true? I tried, it worked, what else you want? Are you working for AN or GH?
 

Chillin chillin

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Maybe maybe not. Why don't you try for yourself? I tried their hormone and it works, also their early and lake pk worked, at least comparable with Cyco nutrient. however, they are not cost effective compare to Cyco. Only their hormone worth it. However their cust. is BS, they sent a broken bottle in the mail, I took pictured and they said a replacement will be sent out, which never arrived. Recently, I found out another replacement (thanks to the forums), this replacement come from a much more reliable company and have the same main ingredients.
Mbfert come from Michigan known as a chemical state, am I wrong? So no wonder if they can grad a hold of these chemical for low price. Silica, dirt cheap, can't be fake, is it so hard to believe it is true? I tried, it worked, what else you want? Are you working for AN or GH?
I don't work for any nutrient company, work for a collective
 

BobCajun

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What do you mean by that?
In post #43 you said "They can go a lil bit longer but when they get dense like this the insides start to rot after 7 weeks." Well the only way buds rot is from bud rot, Botrytis mold. That only happens if the humidity is too high and temps too cold at night. I have no mold at all on my buds now, and they're very dense, though I did when I had too little ventilation. It's easy to prevent. You clearly haven't dialed in every aspect of your grow space if you get bud rot. You would also need a hepa filter and preferably a UV air purifier to kill spores too.
 

BobCajun

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Wow, lol, and people keep..., not fair at all.
Anyway, I didn't believe till I tried, it is only $45 at my local store, you don't even have to use both bood and ignitor, just buy the blood and try. You may not cut it 3wks, but at lease 1 wk for sure. If you don't see any different, there is nothing to loose, just return it to your store and get your money back, they clearly have it on the label.
I don't like AN at all, but it is the only thing I know that can replace for PGR right now (for the part forming early buds). I've never tried AN nutes before because I don't see much advantages beside the PH perfect. However, I always listen and try something new when I find it reasonable which is why I tried bud blood. Of course this is not a good habit if you don't have enough knowledge, I paid my price sometimes . This round I will combine it with Ignitor to see if there is any different as chillin method.

Since you never hear bud blood I assume you don't know what is the "vitamins" that chillin been using in his nutes. So I have the right to assume you never had a really good crop. Unless you use something like full line of nutes from some nutes company, your buds potency can't compare to chillin because from my knowledge, I can see he is using mostly all the supplements which a full line nutes can offer.

I think you mainly focus on cooking some trichomes you buds can offer to make them best while we try to make tons of trichomes... You know what I mean? You have 5 trichomes / grade A+ while we have 10 grade A, we can't wait to get + because too much trichromes make buds rot. It is not from ventilation, we passed that point.
Just looks like phosphorus and potassium to me. There's a thread on here about it and reviews are mixed. I'll just stick with 24 hours dark to kickstart flowering. If Bud Blood worked, wouldn't every grower use it? And yet I don't see anyone but you announcing the great breakthrough. My guess, just another profiteering scheme by Big Mike.
 

Chillin chillin

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In post #43 you said "They can go a lil bit longer but when they get dense like this the insides start to rot after 7 weeks." Well the only way buds rot is from bud rot, Botrytis mold. That only happens if the humidity is too high and temps too cold at night. I have no mold at all on my buds now, and they're very dense, though I did when I had too little ventilation. It's easy to prevent. You clearly haven't dialed in every aspect of your grow space if you get bud rot. You would also need a hepa filter and preferably a UV air purifier to kill spores too.
We stay 80• day and night, humidity state 50 in the day and we drop to 35@ night. We replace air in the rooms multi times a day and remove all humidity when lights are out.
our environment is dialed in.
Uv lights are detrimental to our skin. I would never recommend that
 

Chillin chillin

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Just looks like phosphorus and potassium to me. There's a thread on here about it and reviews are mixed. I'll just stick with 24 hours dark to kickstart flowering. If Bud Blood worked, wouldn't every grower use it? And yet I don't see anyone but you announcing the great breakthrough. My guess, just another profiteering scheme by Big Mike.
It works way better than any opener on the market
 

a mongo frog

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I don't see any bud rot. There would be wilted and browned leaflets on the bud. I don't see any. All I see are very immature buds covered in white hairs.
Bro that pic 4 bud is a nice nice og if thats what it is and I'm guessing thats what it is. Probably SFV. If thats done in 50 days thats awesome. The others yea i agree not ready.
 

BobCajun

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We stay 80• day and night, humidity state 50 in the day and we drop to 35@ night. We replace air in the rooms multi times a day and remove all humidity when lights are out.
our environment is dialed in.
Uv lights are detrimental to our skin. I would never recommend that
I meant an air purifier with UV inside it, not out where you can see it. Bionaire has them. Your environment looks fine from what you wrote. There's no bud rot. You just want to chop fast because you don't care about quality or the people you're growing for so you told them there was bud rot.
 

a mongo frog

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Are you still growing deadhead? If you ever want to grow some of my strains, I will hook you up.
No, Im back on that fire og cut. I just did that one time run of the dead head og. Out of the 2 phonos i wasn't over joyed for either. Too much fruity smell. Im more of a skunk running through gasoline type of guy. Although i did give it all to a patient and she loves it, everyone loves different cannabis brother. What strains are you working with?
 

Chillin chillin

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I don't see any bud rot. There would be wilted and browned leaflets on the bud. I don't see any. All I see are very immature buds covered in white hairs.
Do you know what the big inning stages look like? It's the green bud by the stem inside getting"light" in color. If it's brown and cotton looking that's super advanced
 

BobCajun

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Do you know what the big inning stages look like? It's the green bud by the stem inside getting"light" in color. If it's brown and cotton looking that's super advanced
I guess you have a bad pheno then, if it molds at 7 weeks in dry air. Why do you think few people grow Big Bud? But I still don't see any sign of bud rot in those photos. One had some bad leaf cupping but aside from that, normal looking 7 week buds.
 

Keesje

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Chillin chillin,
how long do your plants stay in Veg?
And I assume you have a motherplant.
How long does it take from a cutting to the 1st day of 12/12?
Thanks!
 

Chillin chillin

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It's way better to cut from moms, genetics don't degrade. Unfortunately from clone to clone to clone has its ill effects eventually. Moms stay vigorous as long as we keep them healthy
 
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