Day 10 green clones ZERO roots

dabumps

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Clones look healthy above the rapid rooter. I pulled a bit to see if there was resistance and there was none. Instead they all come out and were rigid, white, and hollow. There are a few tiny clear worms on the rapid rooters (fungus gnats?). Rooters were soaked in tap water (hard as shit). Clones were about 5 inches. In dome with hearing pad. 18/6 light cycle. Should I keep them? Did the worms do it?
 

budbro18

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As long as theyre green keep em. Did you use any rooting hormone? If not expect to wait a solid week longer. I highly suggest you do.

Besides that get some perlite if you dont have it. I use that in my tray to hold the rapid rooters up. Lets the roots breath and spread out into the perlite as well as making the water easily evaporated.

Are you spraying them with water daily?? That will also help so they dont have to do all the work.

Hopefully the bugs wont fuck with anything!
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Rapid rooters should not be hard ever. They come soft and moist in the bag. Nasty peat pucks come hard and need to be soaked but those suck and shouldnt be used. Di you use gel or rooting powder hormones? Water temps around 68 degrees? Added a high bllom mix to the water and misting as you want bloom mix to stimulate roots and low nitrogen so not growing just leaves.
 

jaybray

Member
Clones look healthy above the rapid rooter. I pulled a bit to see if there was resistance and there was none. Instead they all come out and were rigid, white, and hollow. There are a few tiny clear worms on the rapid rooters (fungus gnats?). Rooters were soaked in tap water (hard as shit). Clones were about 5 inches. In dome with hearing pad. 18/6 light cycle. Should I keep them? Did the worms do it?
The worms are not good, if you want you can keep them.
If you do keep them I recommend mosquito dunks to kill off the worms and I always recommend B1 Thiamine (Vitamin B1):
B1 is produced in the foliage of plants and transported down to the root system where it has an effect on root growth and development. In tissue culture and rooting preparations, B1 helps to stimulate the growth of roots on new plants but this is best used in combination with rooting hormones. B1 can assist at any time in a plant's life with root regeneration where the root system has been damaged or stressed through high salinity, pathogens such as pythium, nutrient deficiencies and toxicities, high fruit loading etc but only if the foliage of the plant is unable to produce sufficient supplies for this purpose. Use of B1 is seen as a 'back up' or 'insurance policy' as it is difficult to determine if a plant which has come under stress is capable of producing sufficient B1 to send down to the root system to assist in cell development. Use of Vitamin B1 in plants is the same as in humans - it is most useful where a deficiency exists for some reason. B1 is best applied as a seed soak to speed up germination (root growth), or as a foliar spray. B1 is an organic compound and as such is rapidly broken down by microbes in the nutrient solution (they love to eat carbon based compounds), adding high amounts of B1 may ensure sufficient thiamine stays in the nutrient for a few hours for some plant uptake, but generally microbes will break this down rapidly as well. http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_articles/plant_hormones.html
 

Magic M

Well-Known Member
i double my trays up to prevent the heating pad from overheating the roots! and did you mean that your rooters were hard or your water? i use ro water but before that I use roots gel then powder then into whatever plugs you decide to use! place your trays under a cfl with vents closed! 4 or 5 days later open the vents in your dome 1/4 way + lightly spray the inside of your dome & the plants. check daily for moisture but do NOT overwater! hope this helps
 

joe macclennan

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clear worms w/black head?

yup, Fg larvae. The clones will probably not root as the larvae will eat the roots before they pop.

I'd pitch em and take more....sorry :(

but first you need to get rid of the Fg's in your room.
 

JointOperation

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if ur doubling up your domes.. right. toss a tiny bit of water.. just enough to coat the entire second piece when u place inside one another.. this will make the heatmat.. heat the water.. keeping your dome at a more even temp.. if its a temp problem... if u have fungus larvae.. like joe said.. they dont root as well because they eat the roots..

another thing.. RAPID ROOTERS come moist.. u dont neeed to soak them at all.. i use them the way they come.. n have way faster rooting.. only adding moisture if the rapid rooters are too dry.. but every bag ive had came moist enough to use the way they came... with no problems at all...

the last thing.. if u want to be able to REUSE those rapid rooters .. take your clones out.. let the rapid rooters completly dry out.hard as a rock.. the fungus gnat larvae will die.. and u can moisten them up and use .. while those r drying.. put up some sticky traps to catch the flyers.. and allow your plants soil to dry out almost to the point of a wilting plant.. and that will help eliminate most of them.. i see people using fan leaves as mulch.. and this can fuck things up with bugs and make ur room a bug magnet.. lol toss them in trash.. keep your soil tops clean of leaves.. your floors nice and swept. a clean dry room.. will help get them to die off.. if you have trouble getting rid of them i suggest you look into there life cycle and then attack them with a plan that will kill off there life cycle.. i recommend that for EVERY BUG.

anyways.. good luck and if u need anything feel free to pm me.
 
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