Day 58 Autoflower - Yellow dotting on a couple of leaves

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Nilspoulsen

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twentyeight.threefive said:
I would consider the overall look to the plant to be semi poor, not by your fault but just by poor autoflower genetics. I've had a couple autos like that, not much you can do but either finish it out or toss it.
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Ooof I hate to hear it. This is my first grow so definitely won’t be tossing it. Any suggestions where to get my seeds?
And is it the nutrient burn/ yellowing of leaves that makes you say it’s looking poor or just how the plant looks overall?
I did snap the main cola off in day twenty something
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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Nilspoulsen said:
Ooof I hate to hear it. This is my first grow so definitely won’t be tossing it. Any suggestions where to get my seeds?
And is it the nutrient burn/ yellowing of leaves that makes you say it’s looking poor or just how the plant looks overall?
I did snap the main cola off in day twenty something
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Fantastic overall job especially for a first grow.

The poor look is just the overall look. It just looks like poor autoflower genetics.

Any reason you went with an autoflower? Photoperiod plants are a much better option especially for new growers.
 
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Nilspoulsen

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Fantastic overall job especially for a first grow.

The poor look is just the overall look. It just looks like poor autoflower genetics.

Any reason you went with an autoflower? Photoperiod plants are a much better option especially for new growers.
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When I was looking for seeds for some reason I was under the impression that autos were easier to grow because I wouldn’t have to flip the light.
I also heard autoflowers were smaller and my grow tent is really small 24”x24”x55”. So I didn’t want to not be able to raise the lights but honestly I’m not even sure how tall photos get. I’m looking to get more seeds and was going for autos but if I can fit a photo period that would be great.
Just growing as a hobby 1-2 plants at a time is what I’m looking to do
 
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Nilspoulsen said:
When I was looking for seeds for some reason I was under the impression that autos were easier to grow because I wouldn’t have to flip the light.
I also heard autoflowers were smaller and my grow tent is really small 24”x24”x55”. So I didn’t want to not be able to raise the lights but honestly I’m not even sure how tall photos get. I’m looking to get more seeds and was going for autos but if I can fit a photo period that would be great.
Just growing as a hobby 1-2 plants at a time is what I’m looking to do
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There is a lot of misinformation out there leading new growers to think autos are easier. It only takes a minute to change a timer for photoperiods to get them to flower.

I'd look for photoperiod seeds then. You can flip the light schedule at any time after they reach sexual maturity. Cannabis typically doubles in height during flower stretch so you can plan to flip according to their current height in veg and the height you have left in your tent.

You can use LST (low stress training) and other methods to keep them short if needed as well.
 
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twentyeight.threefive said:
There is a lot of misinformation out there leading new growers to think autos are easier. It only takes a minute to change a timer for photoperiods to get them to flower.

I'd look for photoperiod seeds then. You can flip the light schedule at any time after they reach sexual maturity. Cannabis typically doubles in height during flower stretch so you can plan to flip according to their current height in veg and the height you have left in your tent.

You can use LST (low stress training) and other methods to keep them short if needed as well.
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Thanks man you've been really helpful ill definitely look into some photoperiod seeds.
I don't even need to yield that much but hopefully I can get some decently dense and frosty buds
 
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yellowing is getting worse. Flushed with around 1000ec 6.25pH like 2.5 gallons through.
For some reason the runoff pH will not move from 5.7 no matter how much water I run through at higher pH levels.
Started to claw a little as well. Plant honestly starting to look rough. Has spread to a lot more leaves any thoughts?
 
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Getting worse - please help
As I just said above having pH problems. But not really because it’s still in an acceptable range right?
It’s getting watered every 2 days and fed every watering is that okay? I give it a flush if the runoff is 300-400 EC over what I was putting in.
Feeding fox farms tiger bloom and big bloom with 3ml/gal of cal mag. Then I use the proportions shown under the chart I attached for the tiger bloom and big bloom. Usually EC is crazy high after I mix everything and I then dilute the water with RO until EC is in acceptable range.
Also recently moved the lights a little closer to 18” from canopy-light manufacturer recommends 12-18 in flower it says
Went away for thanksgiving and had it on automated watering system and came back and tips started to burn flushed it real good a little while back and only one leaf had that yellowing on it. Downhill from there obviously - clawing started recently
Again first time grower what am I doing wrong here. Plant is definitely looking rough but I don’t want to throw it so how can I salvage this?
Thank you in advance honestly feel bad for fucking up the plant
 

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twentyeight.threefive

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Nilspoulsen said:
Getting worse - please help
As I just said above having pH problems. But not really because it’s still in an acceptable range right?
It’s getting watered every 2 days and fed every watering is that okay? I give it a flush if the runoff is 300-400 EC over what I was putting in.
Feeding fox farms tiger bloom and big bloom with 3ml/gal of cal mag. Then I use the proportions shown under the chart I attached for the tiger bloom and big bloom. Usually EC is crazy high after I mix everything and I then dilute the water with RO until EC is in acceptable range.
Also recently moved the lights a little closer to 18” from canopy-light manufacturer recommends 12-18 in flower it says
Went away for thanksgiving and had it on automated watering system and came back and tips started to burn flushed it real good a little while back and only one leaf had that yellowing on it. Downhill from there obviously - clawing started recently
Again first time grower what am I doing wrong here. Plant is definitely looking rough but I don’t want to throw it so how can I salvage this?
Thank you in advance honestly feel bad for fucking up the plant
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Plant has been overfed for a long time, as indicated by the dark green color and burnt tips. Coco needs to be fed at least once daily to significant runoff.

I'd double check your mixing ratios and start feeding at least once a day.
 
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twentyeight.threefive said:
Plant has been overfed for a long time, as indicated by the dark green color and burnt tips. Coco needs to be fed at least once daily to significant runoff.

I'd double check your mixing ratios and start feeding at least once a day.
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Okay so just start watering everyday with nutrient water right
The highest I’ve fed him was 1500 EC but feeding 1100 right now should I be staying in the 1100 area?
thanks
 
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OP your doing good but back off the nutes a while. reduce the N and back down to 500 ppm. Forget run off Ph as the soil will adjust the PH so that's why. Feed with 5.5- 6.5 Ph. Check the underside of your leaves.
 
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Nilspoulsen

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twentyeight.threefive said:
Plant has been overfed for a long time, as indicated by the dark green color and burnt tips. Coco needs to be fed at least once daily to significant runoff.

I'd double check your mixing ratios and start feeding at least once a day.
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It’s still getting progressively worse - yesterday started cutting amount of cal mag to 1.5ml/gal instead of 3ml/gal keeping same ration on tiger bloom and big bloom feeding from 950ish EC
Should I be cutting the yellowed fan leaves so the plant doesn’t waste energy trying to save them? Or just leave them alone
 
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Nilspoulsen said:
It’s still getting progressively worse - yesterday started cutting amount of cal mag to 1.5ml/gal instead of 3ml/gal keeping same ration on tiger bloom and big bloom feeding from 950ish EC
Should I be cutting the yellowed fan leaves so the plant doesn’t waste energy trying to save them? Or just leave them alone
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What amounts per gallon are you using? I'm not familiar with Fox Farms but the nutrient schedule lists Grow Big as part of the base schedule.

I'd stick with the base nutrients and stop the CalMag completely.

Mix the recommended base nutrients (no CalMag) according to the schedule and dilute to 1.0-1.2 EC at 6.0 pH and flush the plant with it.

Did you start feeding daily or still every other day?

Leave the yellow leaves and clean them up if they die and fall off on their own. If the plant is still experiencing deficiencies if you pull the leaves the plant will just start pulling from healthy leaves.
 
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Nilspoulsen

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twentyeight.threefive said:
What amounts per gallon are you using? I'm not familiar with Fox Farms but the nutrient schedule lists Grow Big as part of the base schedule.

I'd stick with the base nutrients and stop the CalMag completely.

Mix the recommended base nutrients (no CalMag) according to the schedule and dilute to 1.0-1.2 EC at 6.0 pH and flush the plant with it.

Did you start feeding daily or still every other day?

Leave the yellow leaves and clean them up if they die and fall off on their own. If the plant is still experiencing deficiencies if you pull the leaves the plant will just start pulling from healthy leaves.
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Started to feed daily as well and grow big gets cut off in late flower I believe because of the high amount of nitrogen.
The other two focus on phosphorus and potassium at least at the macro level but tiger bloom as a little nitrogen in it
The cal mag is 2-0-0 so yeah I’ll stop using it and see what happens
 
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