DC Shooter and Obama Care?

D619

Well-Known Member
Australian citizens do not (and never did) have a constitutional right to own firearms — even before the 1997 buyback program, handgun ownership in Australia was restricted to certain groups, such as those needing weapons for occupational reasons, members of approved sporting clubs, hunters, and collectors. Moreover, the 1997 buyback program did not take away all the guns owned by these groups; only some types of firearms (primarily semi-automatic and pump-action weapons) were banned. And even with the ban in effect, those who can demonstrate a legitimate need to possess prohibited categories of firearms can petition for exemptions from the law.

Figure out the rest Brainiac!
 

PiElandAZ

New Member
consistent 90-95% support for background checks across all polls.



the SCOTUS has already ruled that background checks are fully constitutional and that the second amendment is not absolute.
Then the SCROTUS is wrong ... WE THE PEOPLE need to get our shit together now.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Who the hell cares if I copy and paste, background checks are a joke. Original thought! I've read your posts, so thanks for the laugh.
Gun control is really about controlling the People. You are quite amusing though. The same People who support Obama are just as clueless as those who supported Bush! Gun Laws are about as useless as the War on Drug Laws.
who? the members that are subjected to pages of others' thoughts that were copied and pasted..copy and paste shows lack of effort and thought..can't manage thoughts of your own?..post a link, like everyone else..no one will read it, but then again, no one will read your cut and paste either however, you'll look less of an assclown..
 

ginwilly

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Hey Schuylaar,

It was before, that tidbit was wore out after the shooting. It's a policy of the that chain all over the country. Some people speculated that's why he chose the place, it was the only gun free zone within a 20 mile radius. I disagree with that theory, I don't think crazy people care about those things.

My only point was lives may have been saved if were it not gun free, but I'll admit it's not a definite. I won't subscribe to a shootout like the OK corral occurring. I don't know why anti-gun people think that's what would have happened. There is no precedent to base that belief on.

A history lesson on prohibition should tell us that a ban on weapons would increase crime. It SHOULD tell us that, but for some reason people think a prohibition on firearms would work when no other prohibition has.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Hey Schuylaar,

It was before, that tidbit was wore out after the shooting. It's a policy of the that chain all over the country. Some people speculated that's why he chose the place, it was the only gun free zone within a 20 mile radius. I disagree with that theory, I don't think crazy people care about those things.

My only point was lives may have been saved if were it not gun free, but I'll admit it's not a definite. I won't subscribe to a shootout like the OK corral occurring. I don't know why anti-gun people think that's what would have happened. There is no precedent to base that belief on.

A history lesson on prohibition should tell us that a ban on weapons would increase crime. It SHOULD tell us that, but for some reason people think a prohibition on firearms would work when no other prohibition has.
tasers for all will get the job done..
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
tasers for all will get the job done..
Convince me we can do this and I'm on board. Why will prohibition have positive outcomes THIS time?

Any gun measure that doesn't involve hand guns is just fluff. Over 99% of murders with guns are committed with hand guns. How can a handgun ban prevent the bad guys and idiots from still having them?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Convince me we can do this and I'm on board. Why will prohibition have positive outcomes THIS time?

Any gun measure that doesn't involve hand guns is just fluff. Over 99% of murders with guns are committed with hand guns. How can a handgun ban prevent the bad guys and idiots from still having them?
and what percentage of those murders are committed by the gunowners themselves?..we need a chart..Bucky?
 

D619

Well-Known Member
who? the members that are subjected to pages of others' thoughts that were copied and pasted..copy and paste shows lack of effort and thought..can't manage thoughts of your own?..post a link, like everyone else..no one will read it, but then again, no one will read your cut and paste either however, you'll look less of an assclown..
You read it! By the way calling me an assclown makes you look like an ass. But hey, I live in Southern Cal, so we can discuss this in Person.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
and what percentage of those murders are committed by the gunowners themselves?..we need a chart..Bucky?
If you are trying to argue we need to ban guns so people won't get guns that don't belong to them, you need to reassess that line of thought. How does this work?
 

UncleBuck

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Australian citizens do not (and never did) have a constitutional right to own firearms — even before the 1997 buyback program, handgun ownership in Australia was restricted to certain groups, such as those needing weapons for occupational reasons, members of approved sporting clubs, hunters, and collectors. Moreover, the 1997 buyback program did not take away all the guns owned by these groups; only some types of firearms (primarily semi-automatic and pump-action weapons) were banned. And even with the ban in effect, those who can demonstrate a legitimate need to possess prohibited categories of firearms can petition for exemptions from the law.

Figure out the rest Brainiac!
oh, hey, look at this.

mr. copy and paste went to wikipedia and is regurgitating their page here.

so are you gonna tell me about gun massacres in australia, or just repeat the wikipedia page, old sport?
 
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