dead lizard and smart pot

YesMamNoSir

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Hello my name is Johnny, and I have an unusual question. I live in a swampy tropical climate, and have an indoor grow. Past couple weeks have been prime climates for my inside grow.

The day before yesterday I went to water my plants. I have 3, and all of them looked slightly wilted. I watered all 3 the appropriate amounts of plain H2O, and came out the next morning to check on them. The two smaller ones looked splendid. The third plant the largest and oldest in a 3 gallon smart pot did not look so hot. One of his side branches was still wilted and slightly more than the day before, I assumed maybe I under watered and left a dry spot in the root zone, so I gave it a little more plain H2O.

Today when I went out to check the plants it was wilted even more and only on the one side branch(approximately 10% of the plant). I gave it a little more water and thought maybe it was being under lit since it's a side branch so I rearranged and went to work. When I came home and checked on it the branch was even worse the rest of the plant looked great leaves pointed vertical and getting bushier and bushier with every watering.

This time I did some soil investigating and found a huge lizard that had laid down and died right up side the mulch under the dying branch. It looks like a gecko but its color has changed so it's hard to tell. I am at a loss about what to do.....chop the limb??

I was thinking this is probably the result of decaying flesh and anaerobic bacteria....and I am sure me watering it so much didn't help keep it localized. Should I top dress with some handmade worm compost? I have a product called Quantum that i only use at transplant once in a plants life, but it is highly potent. One i called the creator he said it can eat anaerobic bacteria and even the evil nematodes. It's high in photosynthetic bacteria and is 26% humic acid derived from a Georgia peat bog.

Please any suggestions would be helpful!!
 

greasemonkeymann

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Hello my name is Johnny, and I have an unusual question. I live in a swampy tropical climate, and have an indoor grow. Past couple weeks have been prime climates for my inside grow.

The day before yesterday I went to water my plants. I have 3, and all of them looked slightly wilted. I watered all 3 the appropriate amounts of plain H2O, and came out the next morning to check on them. The two smaller ones looked splendid. The third plant the largest and oldest in a 3 gallon smart pot did not look so hot. One of his side branches was still wilted and slightly more than the day before, I assumed maybe I under watered and left a dry spot in the root zone, so I gave it a little more plain H2O.

Today when I went out to check the plants it was wilted even more and only on the one side branch(approximately 10% of the plant). I gave it a little more water and thought maybe it was being under lit since it's a side branch so I rearranged and went to work. When I came home and checked on it the branch was even worse the rest of the plant looked great leaves pointed vertical and getting bushier and bushier with every watering.

This time I did some soil investigating and found a huge lizard that had laid down and died right up side the mulch under the dying branch. It looks like a gecko but its color has changed so it's hard to tell. I am at a loss about what to do.....chop the limb??

I was thinking this is probably the result of decaying flesh and anaerobic bacteria....and I am sure me watering it so much didn't help keep it localized. Should I top dress with some handmade worm compost? I have a product called Quantum that i only use at transplant once in a plants life, but it is highly potent. One i called the creator he said it can eat anaerobic bacteria and even the evil nematodes. It's high in photosynthetic bacteria and is 26% humic acid derived from a Georgia peat bog.

Please any suggestions would be helpful!!
I would highly suspect you have grey mold (or some type of mold) at the base of the affected branch, almost exclusively when a plant has a specific problem only affecting a branch it's mold, especially considering you said you are in a humid area.
I highly doubt that lizard has anything to do with it.
look for mold, if you find it, treat it like cancer, cut it completely out, and I like to use a product called "clean leaf" it's for roses, and it's citrus based, destroys mold on contact, and if you gently rub the area you can clean it out.
good luck
 

YesMamNoSir

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When lights come back on today I am gonna pull the plant out and definitely do a little mold search on and around the limb and mulch. Last night i scooped the lil guy out with some the mulch directly surrounding him and topped with some handmade vermicompost and farmer d biodyn compost, and poured a cup of water right on top.

I also have some ahimsa neem oil which is supposed to be very effective on mold and fungus. I have even used the Ahimsa neem on old floorboards that went moldy with some oregano oil and cinnamon oil and have not seen a trace of mold in a year there.
 

greasemonkeymann

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When lights come back on today I am gonna pull the plant out and definitely do a little mold search on and around the limb and mulch. Last night i scooped the lil guy out with some the mulch directly surrounding him and topped with some handmade vermicompost and farmer d biodyn compost, and poured a cup of water right on top.

I also have some ahimsa neem oil which is supposed to be very effective on mold and fungus. I have even used the Ahimsa neem on old floorboards that went moldy with some oregano oil and cinnamon oil and have not seen a trace of mold in a year there.
just be prepared to cut the entire branch off
 

st0wandgrow

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Hello my name is Johnny, and I have an unusual question. I live in a swampy tropical climate, and have an indoor grow. Past couple weeks have been prime climates for my inside grow.

The day before yesterday I went to water my plants. I have 3, and all of them looked slightly wilted. I watered all 3 the appropriate amounts of plain H2O, and came out the next morning to check on them. The two smaller ones looked splendid. The third plant the largest and oldest in a 3 gallon smart pot did not look so hot. One of his side branches was still wilted and slightly more than the day before, I assumed maybe I under watered and left a dry spot in the root zone, so I gave it a little more plain H2O.

Today when I went out to check the plants it was wilted even more and only on the one side branch(approximately 10% of the plant). I gave it a little more water and thought maybe it was being under lit since it's a side branch so I rearranged and went to work. When I came home and checked on it the branch was even worse the rest of the plant looked great leaves pointed vertical and getting bushier and bushier with every watering.

This time I did some soil investigating and found a huge lizard that had laid down and died right up side the mulch under the dying branch. It looks like a gecko but its color has changed so it's hard to tell. I am at a loss about what to do.....chop the limb??

I was thinking this is probably the result of decaying flesh and anaerobic bacteria....and I am sure me watering it so much didn't help keep it localized. Should I top dress with some handmade worm compost? I have a product called Quantum that i only use at transplant once in a plants life, but it is highly potent. One i called the creator he said it can eat anaerobic bacteria and even the evil nematodes. It's high in photosynthetic bacteria and is 26% humic acid derived from a Georgia peat bog.

Please any suggestions would be helpful!!

With lizards around, you're gonna Iguanna do a better job of Monitoring the plants from the Ge-cko.

^lame, I know^
 

YesMamNoSir

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Honestly, I like lizards and there are several in my grow shed. My outside garden is so dense with lizards my daughter doesn't like going through the middle because of the jumping lizards. They're nice little predators to have around, but never calculated that one would think my smart pot would be a good grave.

I gave it a vermicompost slurry and the wilt is continuing. I was supposed to take clones this week and have been giving it only water for a couple weeks. Thinking I might chop the limb tonight and take a few clones of the remaining plant which is righteously growing upward, and give it a nice stress bath. This is a Mother plant. The rest of the main limbs and side limbs are fine. This is one limb out of about 15 main limbs.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Honestly, I like lizards and there are several in my grow shed. My outside garden is so dense with lizards my daughter doesn't like going through the middle because of the jumping lizards. They're nice little predators to have around, but never calculated that one would think my smart pot would be a good grave.

I gave it a vermicompost slurry and the wilt is continuing. I was supposed to take clones this week and have been giving it only water for a couple weeks. Thinking I might chop the limb tonight and take a few clones of the remaining plant which is righteously growing upward, and give it a nice stress bath. This is a Mother plant. The rest of the main limbs and side limbs are fine. This is one limb out of about 15 main limbs.
You didn't find any mold? I am surprised if that's the case.
 

YesMamNoSir

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I didn't find any mold on the lizard or on the top mulch but I took a pretty big scoop out when I removed him. I didn't notice anything strange I immediately topped with fresh vermicomp. When I take it out tonight to cut and clone I'll take a closer investigation. Just worried about the state of my new clones, but to stay on schedule I have to take cuttings.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I didn't find any mold on the lizard or on the top mulch but I took a pretty big scoop out when I removed him. I didn't notice anything strange I immediately topped with fresh vermicomp. When I take it out tonight to cut and clone I'll take a closer investigation. Just worried about the state of my new clones, but to stay on schedule I have to take cuttings.
no, mold on the lizard or topmulch is irrelevant, in fact that would be a good thing really, I was referring to the base of the affected branch, like I said, when a specific part of the plant exhibits limp leaves it's usually because of mold at the base of the branch, did you look for that?
The lizard isn't your problem.
And topdressing or feeding isn't going to help the problem you mentioned, nutrient deficiencies don't cause a part of the plant to wilt, or any of it to wilt for that matter, only things that do that are too much heat, not enough water (which you said happened), actual physical damage, or mold.
If it was heat or water the entire plant would be effected, not just one branch.
Look for mold. it may only be a speck, but all it takes is a speck of either grey or black mold at any part of that branch and it's toast.
 
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