deficiency or overdose?

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

My exodus cheese is showing these signs. please give some help. Now my jack33 is showing same signs. Blueberry seema to be fine though.

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 13, 2015

What feeding schedule are you using? You are getting very dark green, thats a sign of Nitrogen toxicity. The leaves are so dark its hard to tell whats going on. Looks like a magnesium deficiency but kinda looks like pH fluctuations maybe too. Again what feeding schedule? How much?

green217 · Jun 13, 2015

I think you need to back off some, at least on N. If they look like spots I would lean towards CaMg deficiency. so I agree with the above post. R u giving it CaMg at all?

aquadel · Jun 13, 2015

Damn... And I thought my leaves we're dark during veg

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

DirtyMcCurdy said:
What feeding schedule are you using? You are getting very dark green, thats a sign of Nitrogen toxicity. The leaves are so dark its hard to tell whats going on. Looks like a magnesium deficiency but kinda looks like pH fluctuations maybe too. Again what feeding schedule? How much?

Yeah been using full strength nutes flora trio. Thought they could handle it. I use organic garden lime for cal mag. Best i can get for now.

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

aquadel said:
Damn... And I thought my leaves we're dark during veg

Yeah i have way to much nitrogen.

aquadel · Jun 13, 2015

Dosnt look out of control Atleast , have seen a lot worst

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

green217 said:
I think you need to back off some, at least on N. If they look like spots I would lean towards CaMg deficiency. so I agree with the above post. R u giving it CaMg at all?

i was doing nutes then next feeding which is usually 2-3 days Was just water but past 2 feeding ive been using full str nutes

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 13, 2015

DANK PURPY said:
Yeah been using full strength nutes flora trio. Thought they could handle it. I use organic garden lime for cal mag. Best i can get for now.

The flora trio lacks magnesium imo. I'd back off the grow, actually I'd quit using it all together. I use the Lucas formula when using the flora line... Just micro and bloom. I don't know what kind of lime you're talking about but hydrated lime has magnesium in it.

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

aquadel said:
Dosnt look out of control Atleast , have seen a lot worst

Yeah thanks

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

DirtyMcCurdy said:
The flora trio lacks magnesium imo. I'd back off the grow, actually I'd quit using it all together. I use the Lucas formula when using the flora line... Just micro and bloom. I don't know what kind of lime you're talking about but hydrated lime has magnesium in it.

It balances ph of soil n give good amount of mag & cal

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

DirtyMcCurdy said:
The flora trio lacks magnesium imo. I'd back off the grow, actually I'd quit using it all together. I use the Lucas formula when using the flora line... Just micro and bloom. I don't know what kind of lime you're talking about but hydrated lime has magnesium in it.

Whats wrong with the grow bottle?

aquadel · Jun 13, 2015

Iii have never used flora but I was directed away from it when I first started , people can pull the same growth off flora as they can off an but I think it's just a lot easier and less stress and problem to stick with a leading brand ... Such as h&g

, that's just my 2 cents tho , I could be completely wrong at the end of the day nutes are nutes

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 13, 2015

aquadel said:
Iii have never used flora but I was directed away from it when I first started , people can pull the same growth off flora as they can off an but I think it's just a lot easier and less stress and problem to stick with a leading brand ... Such as h&g , that's just my 2 cents tho , I could be completely wrong at the end of the day nutes are nutes

Despite what you may think, price doesn't reflect quality, especially in this industry. There is nothing wrong with GH, they've been around for like 20 some years. H and G might be good but I'll never know, I refuse to get swindled into buying that "high end" bullshit, serioulsy, you'd think there was gold in those bottles.

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 13, 2015

DANK PURPY said:
Whats wrong with the grow bottle?

Nothings wrong with the grow. Its just not needed. There is Nitrogen in the micro, along with calcium and your micronutrients. Then the bloom has phosphorus and potassium with a little magnesium and sulfur... All the plant needs. The grow does have a good amount of potassium in it, however, potassium is needed probably most in the flowering stage when you really don't need the extra nitrogen. The lucas formula(just micro and bloom) is supposed to provide a good balance of everything the plant needs, but I'm not going to try to sell you on the lucas formula. Continue using all three just scale it back to half or so for now. What week are you in?

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

DirtyMcCurdy said:
Nothings wrong with the grow. Its just not needed. There is Nitrogen in the micro, along with calcium and your micronutrients. Then the bloom has phosphorus and potassium with a little magnesium and sulfur... All the plant needs. The grow does have a good amount of potassium in it, however, potassium is needed probably most in the flowering stage when you really don't need the extra nitrogen. The lucas formula(just micro and bloom) is supposed to provide a good balance of everything the plant needs, but I'm not going to try to sell you on the lucas formula. Continue using all three just scale it back to half or so for now. What week are you in?

Really appreciate all the feed Back. I am planning on going full organic soon so i cant wait to say goodbye to all my chemicals, and start getting into teas etc. its 7 weeks

DANK PURPY · Jun 13, 2015

aquadel said:
Iii have never used flora but I was directed away from it when I first started , people can pull the same growth off flora as they can off an but I think it's just a lot easier and less stress and problem to stick with a leading brand ... Such as h&g , that's just my 2 cents tho , I could be completely wrong at the end of the day nutes are nutes

Thanks for the reply bro. Yeah it was just cheap and had everything i needed

DirtyMcCurdy · Jun 13, 2015

DANK PURPY said:
Really appreciate all the feed Back. I am planning on going full organic soon so i cant wait to say goodbye to all my chemicals, and start getting into teas etc. its 7 weeks

If its week 7 then I would definetly be ditching the grow. And good luck on the organic route. Thats one area I'm not familiar with or intersted in. Give me mineral salts any day

aquadel · Jun 13, 2015

were I am h&g is only a $5 difference so is an , flora must have it's quality as so many people use it , that was just my exp of switching to a well known nutes, everyone finds there "faves" , but yeh at the end of it nutes are nutes

aquadel · Jun 13, 2015

aquadel said:
were I am h&g is only a $5 difference so is an , flora must have it's quality as so many people use it , that was just my exp of switching to a well known nutes, everyone finds there "faves" , but yeh at the end of it nutes are nutes

Iiiii used some monsta bud addictive witch is organic in my dwc even tho it dose well it left quite a mess of my res , but witch Eva way you chose to go it all works , personal preference is what it comes down too

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