Defoliate, Or Not To Defoliate!?
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These are autoflowers.Who? the photoperiod virgins?
They are gorgeousDefoliating is necessary in a scrog or it ends up in all sorts of mess not to mention dew trapped between the leafs, here is a plant with a few weeks to go,
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calvin.m16
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I haven't tried Scrogging, yet.
Samwell Seed Well
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It's not even hate. It's ignorance, laziness or it is a process that simply doesn't fir their "best practices" for their grow...
Someome assigning it a negative connotation because it doesn't work for them is a wierd way to narc on themselves for trying to punch above their level.
or have an agenda to basically just be charlatans
calvin.m16
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Yeah my way or the highway! mentality. THEYR KILLIN OUR PLANTZ GENZ TAKIN OVERRR
calvin.m16
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That isn't really a scrog honestly. It's more so just to support the weight of the branches late bloom when they flop their heavy asses over. I usually do 3 layers but only did 2 that time around, sooo you can see a lot of the colas layed down pretty bad.. Not a bad thing though, great quality still.. Just harder to harvest.
You can let the plants grow up into the nets and use "Task Support Rods" to hold the netting itself in place. I use 5 foot wide netting you can buy it just about anywhere.
calvin.m16
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Looking chonky.
Well done.I was against any heavy defoliation for a long time but started scrogging and now days will hack them all off if the conditions dictate it. I think humidity is the biggest factor to consider. Leaves transpire and create humidity and for me it basically boils down to what helps me stay closest to my desired vpd. My state goes from one extreme to the other throughout the year. I defoliate a lot less in the winter when the air is dry to help keep my humidity up. In the spring and summer when it's crazy humid a good strip helps keep humidity lower. Then I guess there is also light penetration to lower buds to consider but I've never seen where it was that significant. I might get slightly denser lowers with a heavy defoliation. When I don't go heavy the lowers usually seem to end up frostier just hanging out in the shade. Always ends up about the same after I squish them into rosin. Then you have plants that hardly have leaves to begin with and those that are nothing but leaf. The defoliate vs not to defoliate thing is pretty stupid honestly because there are too many variables to consider. What works to achieve the best results in your garden, with your plants, could be the exact opposite of what would be best for your internet buddy and that is true for way more than defoliation. Sorry for the rant, had a buddy completely strip the four freshly rooted clones I gave him last week and has them sitting in a tent with about 25% humidity lol. His first grow you would think he would have asked advice where he got them from but oh well.
Cannabinoid Froyd
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I can see heavy defoliation as a negative impact. However, I see selective defoliation as beneficial.
Light to a leaf allows photosynthesis. No light to a leaf produces little to no photosynthesis. So, if I were to remove 5-10 upper canopy leaves that are blocking light to 20/30 leaves below I will be increasing the amount of potential photosynthesis in the plant. This would be beneficial.
Does that sound right?
Light to a leaf allows photosynthesis. No light to a leaf produces little to no photosynthesis. So, if I were to remove 5-10 upper canopy leaves that are blocking light to 20/30 leaves below I will be increasing the amount of potential photosynthesis in the plant. This would be beneficial.
Does that sound right?
calvin.m16
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It is true to defoliate you need your environment dialed in or the plants will be stressed out big time.. I'm blessed that my basement I grow in is always 50% RH but I did have to buy TWO Quest Dual 155 look them babies up... Not cheap! Hopefully that helps you feel better about the dryer conditions you're growing in. lol
calvin.m16
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Amen.
visajoe1
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lol, all good. this is what works for me, hope we all grow the best dank we can in our particular situations. many variables exist grow to grow
keep doing what you're doin!
xtsho
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Are you going to go cry in every thread like the slimy punk you are?
ComputerSaysNo
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Thank god, there's somebody else. I just stared at the photo for 2 minutes figuring out what's what.
Frank Nitty
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DAMMIT JIM!!! THAT'S A LOT OF DATA!!!
Boatguy
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King Avitas
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I have 8 plants in a 4x8 grow space putting out 200+ bud sites in my canopy. If I don't defoliate half those sites turn to larf. Defoliation for my style of growing isn't an option, it's a requirement.
That being said, if I have room between plants, I try to leave them alone if possible. Just depends on how I am growing and how the plant structure forms.
I hate larf and have absolutely no use for it or desire to grow it.
That being said, if I have room between plants, I try to leave them alone if possible. Just depends on how I am growing and how the plant structure forms.
I hate larf and have absolutely no use for it or desire to grow it.