Deformed shriveled veg growth. Help!

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treeeeeman

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So I have two plants that were growing well and healthy for some time. Ever since I’ve topped them and tied them down for LST they’ve started to grow strange deformed shriveled up leaves, and growth is generally slow. Most leaves only grow 3 lobes (sometimes 4).

I’m running them under a 600w tolys led in soil. I gave them their first dose of nutrients about a week and a half ago. I think it might have been too hot, so I’ve been feeding pH’d down water ever since.
 

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Do your pots properly drain? Are you letting them almost dry out and then water, or watering everyday even when wet? It looks like its been overwatered and/or not draining. Also, in one of the pictures I can see a vent port from the tent that is open on the inside. Make sure all of the vents are closed to prevent light leak.
 
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2com

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Medium? PH? EC/PPM? Could you post a pic without the blurple? They look real dark but hard to tell.
They are drooping, could be over water like xmatox suggested.
 
Bear420

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Hello, They look Really Dark Green. which Could be Nitrogen tox But really not sure because of the Purple in your lights. Do your stems feel brittle ?
The other thing I notice is the leaves getting distorted like that, Make sure your light cycle is right. I have had that happen when I re-vegged not sure if that's your issue.
You can try and cut back on the nutes see if that helps first should take about a week to notice, but try simple first then move to more extreme methods.

Good Luck,
Keep us posted.
Bear420
 
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treeeeeman

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xmatox said:
Do your pots properly drain? Are you letting them almost dry out and then water, or watering everyday even when wet? It looks like its been overwatered and/or not draining. Also, in one of the pictures I can see a vent port from the tent that is open on the inside. Make sure all of the vents are closed to prevent light leak.
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They do drain properly. I’ve been watering when dry but I may not have been waiting long enough. This is my first grow so I’m still figuring out how to read the plants. Ill make sure to close up that vent!
 
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Bear420 said:
Hello, They look Really Dark Green. which Could be Nitrogen tox But really not sure because of the Purple in your lights. Do your stems feel brittle ?
The other thing I notice is the leaves getting distorted like that, Make sure your light cycle is right. I have had that happen when I re-vegged not sure if that's your issue.
You can try and cut back on the nutes see if that helps first should take about a week to notice, but try simple first then move to more extreme methods.

Good Luck,
Keep us posted.
Bear420
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The stems aren’t brittle. I’m not too sure about the nitrogen tox I’ve been only feeding water. I attached a picture of the plant from before i started noticing the new strange growth. The colour of the foliage hasn’t changed since then. (This is just to show you the colour of leaves under normal light as I don’t have access to my plants rn).
 

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treeeeeman

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treeeeeman said:
The stems aren’t brittle. I’m not too sure about the nitrogen tox I’ve been only feeding water. I attached a picture of the plant from before i started noticing the new strange growth. The colour of the foliage hasn’t changed since then. (This is just to show you the colour of leaves under normal light as I don’t have access to my plants rn).
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My light cycle has been 18/6
 
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2com said:
Medium? PH? EC/PPM? Could you post a pic without the blurple? They look real dark but hard to tell.
They are drooping, could be over water like xmatox suggested.
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I’m growing in soil. The water has a pH of around 6.5. Not too sure about my EM/PPM. Here’s a picture of the plant under normal light. This is from about a week or two ago but this is the normal colour of the leaves presently.
 

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treeeeeman

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2com said:
Medium? PH? EC/PPM? Could you post a pic without the blurple? They look real dark but hard to tell.
They are drooping, could be over water like xmatox suggested.
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Bear420 said:
Hello, They look Really Dark Green. which Could be Nitrogen tox But really not sure because of the Purple in your lights. Do your stems feel brittle ?
The other thing I notice is the leaves getting distorted like that, Make sure your light cycle is right. I have had that happen when I re-vegged not sure if that's your issue.
You can try and cut back on the nutes see if that helps first should take about a week to notice, but try simple first then move to more extreme methods.

Good Luck,
Keep us posted.
Bear420
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These plants also spent sometime outside up until about the end of september in Canada. Is there a chance that this new strange growth is because of the sudden different photo period and temperatures?
 
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2com

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treeeeeman said:
I’m growing in soil. The water has a pH of around 6.5. Not too sure about my EM/PPM. Here’s a picture of the plant under normal light. This is from about a week or two ago but this is the normal colour of the leaves presently.
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Hmm, it looks fine to me, in this pic anyway.
I think the only nutrients/elements that can cause distortion like that are micro nutrients, and occasionally P,. pH being off can cause it. It's funny, I'm seeing some distortion at one someones garden recently but probably not the same thing as you're having.
Sorry I couldn't be much help. I'd double check pH in and pH out too maybe.
 
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The color indicates that you're probably at the upper limit of nutrient strength.
I see over watering as well, but overall the plants look good
 
Bear420

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treeeeeman said:
These plants also spent sometime outside up until about the end of september in Canada. Is there a chance that this new strange growth is because of the sudden different photo period and temperatures?
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It certainly could be, That was my first thought. Light period would cause that to revert to veg state. So Yes very possible.
 
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