Depression & Marijuana

Yes of course thats why they don't want it legalized. It all about the MONEY!!!! Money for the doctors, drug stores, drug companies, alcohol etc etc etc. Its sickening really when you think about it.
When you really think about it, its rediculous that there is a miraculous plant on this planet earth that was put here obviously for us but there are people that say we can't have it because of all this BS.

I wonder where they get the right!!!

I'm a lot like you there Joe. Its not that I go around the house moping around all the time but this sure makes life a lot easier to deal with.

And if it ever came down to being busted at our house, I don't want my hubby having to take any kind of rap for it. Thats my main concern

joemomma said:

I think you are pretty darn close with this but I think it's more a case of people within the government getting money from pharmaceutical company lobbyists. The pharma corps are huge and therefore have many tax shelters so I don't think the government itself gets that money, it's the guys running it.

I'd be willing to bet there are also a lot of alcoholic beverage companies that lobby against weed as well. I know plenty of people that say they would smoke weed instead of drinking if it was legal.

As to weed being a cure all well, it certainly does seem that way. It's very beneficial with me for pain management but it's also got some crazy side effects that I think are very cool. I'm normally a very reclusive type of person, I don't like to go anywhere and I certainly don't want to be around people. But cannabis has such a calming effect that I can relax around people, I can be social and just enjoy the company of other people, when the wife says "hey do you wanna go to blah blah?" I'm like "sure sounds fun!" I'm also pretty susceptible to stress and anger. My wife drives me absolutely nuts. She completely bugs the shit out of me and I just want to scream at her, with a little herb I'm more relaxed and we actually have conversations now and I find that she really is a very sweet woman. I think this is also had a positive effect on her, she doesn't use herb at all but I've noticed that she is so much less negative than she used to be, she's much more upbeat and positive. She must have been feeding off my negative energy. Yeah, cannabis truly is (Insert choice of diety or guiding force here) God's gift to mankind. Recognize people!

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Thats great papajock. I have looked at the different strains also and am very curious how this is all gonna go. I bought some seeds recently also and really look forward to setting up my grow room. Its been a few years since I've had one so I'm excited.

I do strongly recommend what blaze has suggested. Go for a 20 minute walk every day and you will notice a HUGE difference in your moods.

I walk at least hour every day or more and have a home gym in the basement as well as some good hobbies.
I also found that when I organize my days, they go a lot more smoothly with less anxiety.

papajock said:

Thanks Lacy. Been occupying my time with a DWC setup (DIY). Been using this site for research. It will be my first grow. I have some kalichakra from mandala seeds and some widow skunk on the way. Kal is a happy-go lucky high for daytime. Widow skunk, still sativa mix, but more laid back for night. Just hope they arrive OK (usa). Hoping the grow will keep me busy enough to keep my thoughts in check.

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You know, I really feel for men with depression.
You guys are taught all your lives to stand tall and keep a tough upper lip. Unfortunately all your upbringing and how society views 'depression and men' just compounds the situation.

That is why there are more women that get treated for depression than men because it is more obvious. Women have been given the right to cry and show our sensitive side whereas men just are not.

I know that I have rarely seen my husband depressed but I know he has been. His depression just comes out as anger like most men because that is all most have been taught is acceptable.

A lot of men do not even realise they are depressed or get misdiagnosed because of this.

Very sad situation.

papajock said:

I would, but I dont have a camara. You are right on about working out. I have on and off throughout the years and always felt better when I was. Right now I need to get out of this deep depression. I hurt all over my body and I know most of the pain is depression related. If I can get out of the funk I am in right now, I hope to be able pump some iron and get rid of some aggression. Thanks for the feedback. You are good people.

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If we could stick to "real" american heritage and ask the wisest old american indian chief if he thought pot should be legal, and his input on this would have strong influence in the government as it should, we would be all set. Now pass that peace pipe somebody.

And what about the insense that the Buddists use? Do you think that it is just to make the place smell better? I would almost bet that there is some pot in that smoke. If it is good enough for Budda, its good enough for me.

The way I see things is you dont have Americans running this country. It is governed by special interest groups that are in the pockets of politicians. None of them care about the american people. You know there has to be something wrong in the country when you have more government jobs than manufacturing jobs. And I truely believe the only way out would be a civil war. The government is to big to dismantled from the inside. It would have to be taken out.

Most the ppl that smoke weed want it legalized, i guess I do too. I dont really care right now if its legalized or not, because I havent been caught yet, and i can basically smoke whenever I want. Once I get caught and get a big ass fine and a little jail time, im sure ill be all for legalizing it though.

Im not sure if everyone should smoke weed though. Think of what the world would be like if everyone smoked weed...Nothing would get done lol. When most ppl smoke weed they get lazy and dont feel like doing anything, so I dont know how it would be like if everyone smoked.

As far as Depression and shit, im a guy and I used to get depressed all the time, and still do now sometimes, but like Lacy said it was hard for me to show it. If I would ever cry ppl would call me a baby, and be a man about shit, but they dont know how hard that was for me and ppl like me. Now I havent cried in a long time. I can handle it a lot better now, with weed, food, and exercise.

I RARLEY cry but what will happene with me is ill accumulate all the stress and feelings inside and it will make me hate a despise life and everything in it, iwont enjoy having money or having hobbies and stuff. i will just give everything up and ill want to sleep forever.... so yeah depression sucks! smoke some weed

Can I apply for a medical marijuana license for depression? I have proven to myself it works. I live in RI. Theres licenses here but not sure if a doctor will suggest it for me.

MM I believe is not normally prescribe for depression but if you have a history with paper work, it's hard for them to deny you, I have a very long history with depression/anxiety and a stack of paper work you wouldn't believe, talk about a psychological test battery!

It's not like I went in and said I was unhappy and Walla .. MM, it's not like that (in most cases) a true doctor isn't going to give someone a marijuana medical license on a whim, you may have to go through lot's of tests and bullshit before getting MM.

True there are lots of docs that hand out medical cards like they were coupons or something, "Money Talks" but that's not the way to go.

I have never been in trouble with the law either but I do want it legalized or at least decriminalized mainly for the benefit of my husband. He doesn't smoke it and I would hate to have him involved if anything bad were to happen.

Plus the very fact that I have mental disorders such as bi-polar disorder is enough of a stigma to carry around. I've felt rediculed enough with just that label hung over my head, never mind the other label as 'stoner'.

And I don't really agree that everyone gets lethargic when they toke. I like to puff 'cause it has the opposite effect on me. It gives me energy and gets me going. I can focus on what i am doing without the interuption of bad flashbacks.

About men not able to show their real feelings;
my husband is always coming home telling me about things that happen at his work and I have to say that men are brutal especially with each other.

Philly_Buddah said:

Most the ppl that smoke weed want it legalized, i guess I do too. I dont really care right now if its legalized or not, because I havent been caught yet, and i can basically smoke whenever I want. Once I get caught and get a big ass fine and a little jail time, im sure ill be all for legalizing it though.

Im not sure if everyone should smoke weed though. Think of what the world would be like if everyone smoked weed...Nothing would get done lol. When most ppl smoke weed they get lazy and dont feel like doing anything, so I dont know how it would be like if everyone smoked.

As far as Depression and shit, im a guy and I used to get depressed all the time, and still do now sometimes, but like Lacy said it was hard for me to show it. If I would ever cry ppl would call me a baby, and be a man about shit, but they dont know how hard that was for me and ppl like me. Now I havent cried in a long time. I can handle it a lot better now, with weed, food, and exercise.

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I believe this is so totally true, and not only in America. the lives of people today are much more guided by the needs and wants of minority interests (which in all cases is not necessarily bad.....), and loud voices. In my view its the overwhelming emphasis that gets placed in these areas, without similar consideration and attetnion given to the rest of us. It isn't about the cause or the people, its about the power. its driven by greed look at the current credit crisis globablly, cheap money for years has created a monster that WILL restructure the world order, no matter what governmewnts and central banks think they can do to manipulate the system so more. the power to be in government, and do your will. Its all just freakin scary.

papajock said:

The way I see things is you dont have Americans running this country. It is governed by special interest groups that are in the pockets of politicians. None of them care about the american people. You know there has to be something wrong in the country when you have more government jobs than manufacturing jobs. And I truely believe the only way out would be a civil war. The government is to big to dismantled from the inside. It would have to be taken out.

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ive been diagnosed as schizoaffective depressive type for 3 years and have had huge success with my medications. no more debilitating panic attacks or paranoia or psychotic delusions. i had first started experiencing them when i was 21 and was turned off of weed for the past 6 years. marijuana only amplified my halucinations and paranoia. a very hard time to live through now that i look back. but i believe if it wasnt for my meds, i would not be benifiting from the medicinal use of cannabis which has cleared my thinking considerably. my family notices it, my friends, my doc. i never imagined that i would have ever been able to smoke marijuana for the rest of my life. when i was sick, i couldnt imagine what people were thinking partaking in that horrible shit. i was delusional, had been hospitalized 3 times in a year and i never saw my suffering going away so it caused me to question suicide and mortality. a very painful time that continues to heal every day and cannabis has been an integral part of that recovery. so the future looks way better than it did just a few years ago when i was hopeless and hearing voices and spiritually felt like i was so self centered that i deserved to be in a hell cause i cared about it so much.

Where do u get a medical marijuana license, and how hard is it to get?. I was diagnosed with depression, then anxiety, and finally severe depression a couple years back. Im still supposed to be seeing a psychiatrist, but I decided to quit going becuz I wanted to deal with it myself. Most of the medications didnt help much, and the ones that did had side effects that I didnt like. One of the medications worked really good with balancing me out, and it got rid of all my anxiety and helped me be a lot more social, but I still didnt feel like myself when I took it.

How do u bring that up? do u just go up to ur doctor or psychiatrist and ask them if u can use marijuana to help with ur depression?

Philly_Buddah said:

Where do u get a medical marijuana license, and how hard is it to get?. I was diagnosed with depression, then anxiety, and finally severe depression a couple years back. Im still supposed to be seeing a psychiatrist, but I decided to quit going becuz I wanted to deal with it myself. Most of the medications didnt help much, and the ones that did had side effects that I didnt like. One of the medications worked really good with balancing me out, and it got rid of all my anxiety and helped me be a lot more social, but I still didnt feel like myself when I took it.

How do u bring that up? do u just go up to ur doctor or psychiatrist and ask them if u can use marijuana to help with ur depression?

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Its funny how things are because i was wonder the exact same thing and ask him if i could get a legal growing card...

How do u bring that up? do u just go up to ur doctor or psychiatrist and ask them if u can use marijuana to help with ur depression?

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I would say that would be a good idea, never hurts to ask, take all the paper work that you can, you've been experiencing depression/anxiety for over two years, shouldn't be hard to find some paper work, you should have some stacked up somewhere, you stated that you were supposed to keep seeing a psychiatrist but didn't, not good, if you had then you would have lots to bring to your family doctor, paper work definitely helps!

I recommend requesting all of your past medical records, go through them and determine what could help your case, (requesting medical records may require a small fee)

Note: Not all doctors carries the license to prescribe MM, you can do a search online for a doctor nearest you!

The only depressing thing about the herb to me is knowing that I am, the stoner. Knowing that im just the guy who gets blazed all the time while I watch my peers laughing and enjoying life without smoking weed in their entire lives. That make me think fuck! why arnt I like that...

BUt when I am blazed off my face i feel on top of the world never the less

shit sum1 should invent a strain that perma-stonez you...

hey man I totally understand. the funny thing that I have found is that what you refer to as many people laughing their life off without any smoke, a couple of tihngs have become clear to me (1) there are a lot of people floating through life and not getting engaged in life in any meaningful capacity so it is easy for them to act the way they do; and (2) the relationships that you see at the times that you see them is only a snipet of their reality. Quite often there are aspects of those relationships that are not the rosy picture that seems to be placed in front of you.

I spent a lot of time particularly in the few last years in rather deep depression, and blaming myself for my failures and inability to be like whoever I wanted to compare myself to at the time. like well fuck he's married and has a happy wife or he has been in the same job for a thousand years, etc. and why the fuck am I such a loser that I screwed up my marriage or jump from job to job - what difference is there? the factors are multiple and multi-sourced (i.e, and it not only about you) and cannot be isolated and necesarily identified and/or fixed. In my case, I can certainly look at some aspects that I could have managed differently, but whatever happened or was done is done - its gone - its the past - and the only solution is one must move on. Life continues to go foward whether you join it or not. it is your choice to join or to fall into the ditch and watch the traffic zoom by. those people that you look at and say....wow they really have it together - take a closer look if you can - would you REALLY want their life? why not figure out what is REALLY important to you - what do you want your life to look like - and then make THAT life - whatever it is - and forget about comparing it to anyone elses. I have come to believe it really is your choice, and it is only up to yourself to make that choice - including adapting and managing all the bumps alnog the way....

sum0 said:

The only depressing thing about the herb to me is knowing that I am, the stoner. Knowing that im just the guy who gets blazed all the time while I watch my peers laughing and enjoying life without smoking weed in their entire lives. That make me think fuck! why arnt I like that...

BUt when I am blazed off my face i feel on top of the world never the less

shit sum1 should invent a strain that perma-stonez you...

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Nice insight Tahoe. I have the same depressive thoughts as you. I have also been in this deep, depressed state for 2 years now(and counting). The one thing I have problems with are blocked memories. It must be a defense mechanism in my brain. The problem is this seems to shut down at times and lets all of these life altering events in my past come into view at once. It is very hard to cope with, and then I am screwed up for another couple of weeks. I know I can not change anything that happened in the past, but I always keep asking myself "what if?". I guess this is because I am not happy with the state of my life and the unknown state of the lives of other people that I have changed.

Its only because you have different brain chemistry. It is frustrating wishing you were normal like other people but the fact is we aren't.

I've spent so many years feeling like a loser because I smoke dope but since I don't feel like that any more. I think people that smoke daily just get sterotyped or labeled because people just don't know any better. Its an easy out for them.

sum0 said:

The only depressing thing about the herb to me is knowing that I am, the stoner. Knowing that im just the guy who gets blazed all the time while I watch my peers laughing and enjoying life without smoking weed in their entire lives. That make me think fuck! why arnt I like that...

BUt when I am blazed off my face i feel on top of the world never the less

shit sum1 should invent a strain that perma-stonez you...

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Medical records for sure.
I wouldn't ask your doctor if you can smoke. I would just tell him or her that you do and have been for x # of years. If you ask them, it puts them in a position of feeling responsible.
Just my 2 cents.

Humboldt said:

I would say that would be a good idea, never hurts to ask, take all the paper work that you can, you've been experiencing depression/anxiety for over two years, shouldn't be hard to find some paper work, you should have some stacked up somewhere, you stated that you were supposed to keep seeing a psychiatrist but didn't, not good, if you had then you would have lots to bring to your family doctor, paper work definitely helps!

I recommend requesting all of your past medical records, go through them and determine what could help your case, (requesting medical records may require a small fee)

Note: Not all doctors carries the license to prescribe MM, you can do a search online for a doctor nearest you!

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