Desert Grow Is Flowering, Need Expert Advice

Hasbroh

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I've been having a really fun first time grow in the desert but wanted to get knowledgable advice re. flowering.

Specs;

- organic grow, mostly teas, some Espoma 4-3-3, and liquid fert. I fert very light, in the 50 ppm range, sometimes as high as about 150-175 pmms but not often
- 5 plants, tough landrace strains developed to handle high heat conditions,103 days old
- 24 hour light first month or so, stepped up often, moved in and outdoors, well acclimated to sun
- 60 cubic ft. Happy Frog with some ewc, Ancient Forest, and a few bags of Ocean Forest, 16" deep in an in ground planter with shade cloth on sides (3 weeks ago) and top 5 days ago.
- Plants have been very healthy
- 5 1/2-6' tall, each with an average of 15 fairly equal top branches.

Here's a recent note from my journal;

3:00 pm, I think all five plants are flowering. Or at that phase just before, not sure since I've never really grown this stuff before.
Quick thoughts;

-Biggest Rishi Kush, started flowering 3 or 4 weeks ago, now full flower, not popcorney but two to three feet per branch of fairly consistant flowers, about fifteen branches. That sounds as if that's a good thing, hope.

-two other Rishi Kushes, one has been flowering lightly, other just started last nightish.

-Potted R.K., just planted 2 or 3 days ago. Just started today

-Krystallica, in the middle, also started today, maybe yesterday. Much more foliage than RKs, pretty.

-plants are greener today, flowers also, from fert.

-Flower Triggers?; recent ferts (2-3 days ago), top shade (1 day ago), Last two weeks of monsoon humidity & clouds, two rainshowers this week, reduced light duration (very little but...), reduced light from side cloth also (2 weeks ago), actual age of plants plus accellerated growth from 24 hr. lighting?, high heat & uv.
-starting to think this is supposed to be happening... if Mandala has flowered in 120 heat and if the shade cloth protects the oils from uv deterioration... Feedback welcome.


They look great and show no signs of stress. Would like to hear from knowledgable experienced growers. I'm very experienced with horticulture but this is my first weed grow. My main concerns are should I just handle them for full flower and fert accordingly or ....? Thanks!
 

missnu

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I am confused as to what the question is...
MJ outside can tolerate higher heat anyway...100 degrees outside is a little different than 100 degrees inside caused by lights...goes back to the intensity discussion.
 

Hasbroh

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They are in the ground with several inches of perlite as a mulch, which has proved excellant. 60 cubic ft. of soil for 5 plants. The roots are right on the surface under the perlite. The soil is cool.

Questions are should I treat them as a flowering plant and fert accordingly. Looking for insights towards how to maintain them. I imagine they should be treated as flowering, as opposed to re vegging, for instance. Under normal circumstances they would flower towards September/October. I don't mind a shorter grow as it's pretty shitty weather here in the summer, and fall, for that matter. It would just be nice to have some expert grower say, "Sure, no problem. This is why they are flowering and here's what you do.....".
 

Carmarelo

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A lot of people have been flowering early due to this abnormal season. If you want to continue flowering with a shorter season, then yes, start with your flowering nute program.
 

Hasbroh

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Any experienced insights? Am I a pioneer blazing a trail where man has heretofore never journeyed this perilous path lest he/she risk life or limb?
 

ogswisher

Active Member
How big are they? How much are you trying to yield? I live in the valley of the sun had some tough times with mine as well had a couple flower and actually bud and they were only a few inch. tall... I however did not care because it was personal. I have had good experiences growing outdoor from late september to early june maybe u could scratch this one and get the next one ready? Something with the temps makes me think they stop growing a bunch and start to flower no pro however just tryin to give you my 2 cents.... good luck!
 

fresh2

Member
My info is for the next time if you want to try something different. If you put them straight in the ground, its always good to completely turn over the soil, water, leave it to rest a day and do it again before planting.
Compact soil and dry areas can make the roots unhappy. If I understood you are in the desert, you could place some kind of water flow to the bottom parts of the roots by putting tubes where the roots will be and then pump the tubes up in case the soil gets to dry (it will also influences the roots to expand downwards making your plants super strong), the bottom roots will still find water. make those tubes coming from sideway and only bend in at the bottom, otherwise u will obstruct them. You also put a nutrient mix in there. might sound silly, but that's how ido it in a hot place
 

Hasbroh

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Thanks, all. All of your questions are answered in my first posts. They are 6' (just starting to tie them down). They are in a deep planter that is filled with 60 cubic ft. of Happy Frog, ewc, Ancient Forest, and a little Ocean Forest. fresh2, using tubes at the bottom is a good idea. Some kind of leaky pipe (chewed up tire hose) would work. However, the soil moisture is very well monitored, no problem there.

I've decided to treat the four in flower with flower fert etc. and end the grow towards the end of August, depending on the individual plant. I don't see the crop as a wash as the flowers are really developing nicely. One of the nicer branches is 5' with the top 38" in full flower. The 38" branch section has 20 2-6" branches on it that are going to town. So, I'm actually excited about a good harvest, just at the wrong time! Since it's my first time, I would love to know why they are so early. I'll post an update with a pic in a month or so. Thanks, everyone.
 

kamut

Active Member
No idea why they are early, but they look like they are solidly in flower and they are good sized plants that should make big buds. It's a blessing disguised as an anomaly.
 
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