Desperatly needs help with old auto.

tekdc911 said:

so if it goes in 7 and comes out 5 then this is perfectly normal
i am beyond confused please explain

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The PH is a measurment of the balance between OH- and H3O+ if i remember correctly, if the run off is PH5, then it's a fact that the soil includes enough OH- to change the PH of the water.

Ok, i watered with a pesticide yesterday, she looked like soaked shit this morning aswell so i replanted her and replaced as much of the wet soil as possible.

Now ive pruchased dolomite, soil, perlite and new nutes (bio bact tomato + Organic 1-1-1 with algae)
What would you guys say i do next if she doesn't get better? Add some dolomite to the top and water with low nutes? Leave her alone to dry up, even though she got pesticide in the soil?

I took 6 cutlings from her, hoping to save at least something.

I would let the soil dry out and see how she responds. The fresh soil.will provide enough nutes for at least a week. What pesticide did you use? Was dolomite mixed into the fresh soil?

Cascadian said:

I would let the soil dry out and see how she responds. The fresh soil.will provide enough nutes for at least a week. What pesticide did you use? Was dolomite mixed into the fresh soil?

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The soil aint completely fresh though... Maybe i should repot her again with all new soil and extra much perlite for better drying? I just got the Dolomite so no, i just added some to the top, but cant water it down.

I used some nasty version of the neem oil or something, Bionim K. I have a feeling that shit should be flushed out asap if shes even to have a chance of recovery?
I could take her out, remove most soil, flush the roots and then replant with dolomite and fresh soil?

Shes starting to get really dry, some leaves are already crispy!

How much perlite would you recommend for my new soilmix? 80/20?
The soil i purchased: 65% composted spaghnum, 20% composted bark & 15% peat nuggets.

That's a tough one. It has already been stressed pretty bad and isn't healthy so I would hesitate to further stress her. The dolomite takes time to take effect even if you did mix it in. It needs to cook or break down some. You might think about taking the extra soil you have and mixing in the dolomite at 1+ Tbs / gallon of soil and letting it cook before you use the soil. Maybe slightly dampen it.

If the pesticide is neem based you should be ok to leave it but I am not familiar with that one specifically.

Give her a rest, see how she responds. If you think she needs a feeding try foliar. Just some thoughts, others may have some good ideas for you as well.

Oh ok! Thanks alot sir.

Thing is i got the feeling shes going down quite fast, i bet tomorow shes a dry bush.

Maybe i could repot her with only the soil stuck among the roots and perlite? just for a day or 2 untill the old soaked soil dried out?

I'm getting ready for desperate measurements because some of the weaker branches already seem lost.

I'm going all in.

Removing 90% of all the plants soil, washing every pot and then mixing new not soaked soil for them.

Even the other plants got close to root rot, that soil i bet is the reason ive been doing so bad in my first 6 months, providing the gnats with perfect conditions. My idea that the organic matter and pine bark would kind of work like perlite was a fail...
I simply think that the soil was too heavy so when i flush them, they drown even though i have decent drainage.

Also, what temperature would you say is max? Darn summer is rising the temp in my room, might have to move it to one of the none-isolated rooms in the house. ^^

A risky move but it could work. The perlite will really help your new soil. They can't take the same high temps when they are unhealthy and in shock as they can when they have healthy immune systems. Sounds like it is quite hot there but ideally under 82 and if you can keep it under 85 you should be fine. Spikes above that are not a problem but if prolonged then it will be an issue. Even though you are trying to keep them dry those roots need to be watered into the new medium.

tekdc911 said:

so if it goes in 7 and comes out 5 then this is perfectly normal
i am beyond confused please explain

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The water runs through the medium picking up dissolved solids and unused nutrients. Which changes the waters pH yes. But does it indicate what the mediums pH is, no. Its a forum practice that causes for more harm than good.

She looks even worse today, some green leaves still but most are hanging and drying out...

Any last ideas? Should i spray her with water to try to keep her from drying out while she recovers? Do she still have a chance to recover even with almost dried out hanging leaves? Should i take some cutlings to reduce her size? Since i bet she barely have any roots to support it right now.

Feel stupid to just sit back and wait while the whole plant dies out.

The smaller plants (a Caramel kush 5 weeks old cutling & four 2 weeks old Hindu kush autos) i repotted, in the exact same manners, already grows better then yesterday. =)

Ok! Shes showing signs of life even though 90% of her looks like itll drop any second.

The roots where pretty bad, a few healthy in the bottom.



I think the necrosis is taking her down quite bad, even the green semi-healthy leaves are 10-50% dark and deadish.



Here comes a close-up on the healthies branch, showing you all from green to dead.

Any advice?

Wait and see?
Spray with water?
Cut down to cutlings?

Most of those leaves will never recover at all and the plant is working hard to save them. Cut off most of the dead or dying leaves (at least 50% of them) the plant will then be able to focus more energy to healthier areas.

It will be a long recovery process.

I tried to cut away the worst parts.
Most leaves and even some tops.

Took the time for experimentation aswell. I now got a bunch of cutlings and a couple branches standing in a cup of water. Just to see if theyll get better.

I guess i better spend time plan my Hindu kush auto (regular) army outdoor project for the summer...

Thank you all so much for the help. <3