Devin Guilford Shooting
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travisw
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If only you were a womanIf only he were black.
if only you weren't on the staff
If only your trolls were more successful
You could what if all fucking day.
sheskunk
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If only you were a woman
if only you weren't on the staff
If only your trolls were more successful
You could what if all fucking day.
PKHydro
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Can't really see what happens when the shooting goes down. I don't know any details of this story other than the video I just watched, but it seems like another cop felt the need to shoot somebody in the back as they are running away. This kid fucked up by trying to be a youtube hero, but once again a cop takes a fairly calm situation and escalates it to the point of murder. Why didn't he just wait for that second car to arrive? There didn't seem to be any rush, it didn't appear as though the kid was getting ready to run.
I honestly don't know if more training can fix the mindset that most police forces operate under. What they all need, is to go on some psychedelic retreats and experience a little ego death, then maybe they won't freak out and kill someone for questioning their authority.
I honestly don't know if more training can fix the mindset that most police forces operate under. What they all need, is to go on some psychedelic retreats and experience a little ego death, then maybe they won't freak out and kill someone for questioning their authority.
cc2012
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The shooting happened back in February on M-43 near Grand Ledge after a fight with the high school student led to the sergeant firing his gun seven times.
Deven Guilford, 17 was initially pulled over for flashing his high beams at Eaton County Sgt Johnathan Frost, who he thought had his high beams on.
Things got heated when the Sgt. asked Guilford for license and registration, something Guilford had left at his girlfriend’s house.
What happened next ended in punches being thrown and the Sgt. shooting Guilford.
Investigators say Guilford was unarmed, but he shot video from a cell phone at the same time Sgt. Frost’s body camera was recording.
It was this moment where Eaton County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd says Sgt. Frost had reason to arrest 17-year-old Deven Guilford for not showing his license and registration.
Sgt. Frost orders Guilford to get out of the car, then tries to arrest him, shooting him with a taser.
From here the prosecutor says the two got into a fist fight. Slow motion shows Guilford punching the officer in the face. Autopsy reports show the Sgt fought back, rolling into the snow and knocking the lens off of his body camera.
“Sgt. Frost reports that as Deven is hitting him he can feel blood coming to his mouth, he can feel the pain in his face and he believes that he may be losing consciousness,” said Doug Lloyd, Eaton County Prosecutor.
Then in a matter of four seconds, Sgt. Frost fires seven shots, hitting Guilford in the chest, stomach, arm and head.
Prosecutor Doug Lloyd says the shots were justified for self-defense with the non-lethal taser out of reach.
“They did end up in the snow, off of the side and then Sgt. Frost had nothing else in his possession in order to defend himself,” said Prosecutor Lloyd.
http://kron4.com/2015/06/18/raw-video-body-cam-cell-phone-footage-shows-when-officer-was-injured-during-fatal-traffic-stop-fight/
Deven Guilford, 17 was initially pulled over for flashing his high beams at Eaton County Sgt Johnathan Frost, who he thought had his high beams on.
Things got heated when the Sgt. asked Guilford for license and registration, something Guilford had left at his girlfriend’s house.
What happened next ended in punches being thrown and the Sgt. shooting Guilford.
Investigators say Guilford was unarmed, but he shot video from a cell phone at the same time Sgt. Frost’s body camera was recording.
It was this moment where Eaton County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd says Sgt. Frost had reason to arrest 17-year-old Deven Guilford for not showing his license and registration.
Sgt. Frost orders Guilford to get out of the car, then tries to arrest him, shooting him with a taser.
From here the prosecutor says the two got into a fist fight. Slow motion shows Guilford punching the officer in the face. Autopsy reports show the Sgt fought back, rolling into the snow and knocking the lens off of his body camera.
“Sgt. Frost reports that as Deven is hitting him he can feel blood coming to his mouth, he can feel the pain in his face and he believes that he may be losing consciousness,” said Doug Lloyd, Eaton County Prosecutor.
Then in a matter of four seconds, Sgt. Frost fires seven shots, hitting Guilford in the chest, stomach, arm and head.
Prosecutor Doug Lloyd says the shots were justified for self-defense with the non-lethal taser out of reach.
“They did end up in the snow, off of the side and then Sgt. Frost had nothing else in his possession in order to defend himself,” said Prosecutor Lloyd.
http://kron4.com/2015/06/18/raw-video-body-cam-cell-phone-footage-shows-when-officer-was-injured-during-fatal-traffic-stop-fight/
see4
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Sounds like you think this is ok.
Guy drives down road flashes high beams at oncoming car because he thinks they have their high beams on.
Oncoming car turns out to be a pig.
Pig immediately pulls over guy and unlawfully demands for license and registration.
Guy refuses, pig tries to overpower guy and arrest him.
Guy fights back, pig shoots unarmed guy who was defending himself.
And somehow you ass hats think this is ok.
Guy drives down road flashes high beams at oncoming car because he thinks they have their high beams on.
Oncoming car turns out to be a pig.
Pig immediately pulls over guy and unlawfully demands for license and registration.
Guy refuses, pig tries to overpower guy and arrest him.
Guy fights back, pig shoots unarmed guy who was defending himself.
And somehow you ass hats think this is ok.
gulfcoastgrower
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That is not justfied shooting
desert dude
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True. Sometimes you have to keep your mouth shut and do as you're told. It sucks, but if you want to live through the encounter, you have to just swallow that turd.
The cops are just gangsters, and arrogant pricks, mostly. Best to avoid them at all costs.
UncleBuck
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not much difference here between this and the zimmerman case. guy with a gun instigates a fight and shoots his way out of it.
why not just come out as the totalitarian, authoritarian, cop that you are?
we all know you are in law enforcement and work for the federal government.
bearkat42
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Nice fucking try.If only he were black.
You all are way too predictable. Pretty easy to see who the real racists are here. I knew exactly what would happen when I posted this. Thank you all for not letting me down.
UncleBuck
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yeah, you do make it quite obvious.
sheskunk
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Where's your outrage? Do white lives matter? Why you so racist?
bearkat42
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America proves to me everyday how much white lives matter. Blond haired white girl comes home 20 minutes late, and it makes CNN.
sheskunk
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Citation please.
Every time I turn on the news it's another story about how unfairly black people are treated.
Wanna go head-to-head on links? I'll let you go first.