medicine21
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lordjin, what are the signs you see that tell you that your plants could use more nutes?
Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System
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dsmoke1
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A lot of guys cage around the buckets with tomato cages. Bend them square and tape the legs to the side of the bucket. Like so:
But then again, they don't have the time to really fine tune everything by hand. You do. Bending the stalks in toward the center would create a massive network of tops. It will also allow for less lighting required to cover the buckets. You'll pull 1.5 pounds per 1000 watter for sure. Shit, 1 pound per 1000 watter is pretty standard in the growing world. You can improve on that immensely with your brainchild
lordjin
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A lot of guys cage around the buckets with tomato cages. Bend them square and tape the legs to the side of the bucket. Like so:
But then again, they don't have the time to really fine tune everything by hand. You do. Bending the stalks in toward the center would create a massive network of tops. It will also allow for less lighting required to cover the buckets. You'll pull 1.5 pounds per 1000 watter for sure. Shit, 1 pound per 1000 watter is pretty standard in the growing world. You can improve on that immensely with your brainchild
Dude, are you fooking serious? That is one of the most spectacular large volume grow shots I've ever seen. Look at that fuckin tree trunk! Yeah, if I had a space like that, those tomato cages would be more logical, but 5x5 tent? Yeah, I'll lay 'em down inward. BUT that is nothing short of inspirational, brother. Thanks for posting that lovely photo in my journal. I'm doing uc, don't you worry about that. I may even print out that photo and tape it to my wall. Lol.
dsmoke1
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Yeah, that was a large scale Undercurrent op. They averaged under 1000W of lighting per plant, and harvested over 2lbs per plant. Gotta love vertical, bare-bulb lighting. I'm sure that was a HUGE part of the yield. But, they also seem to be having no issues with the system. How could you be mad at that? 
lordjin
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Wow, Medicine, that is a good question. Really, in my system I see such alien-like vigor that it's more about their limit before burning than seeing that they need more. They just grow like mad... so your question actually required a bit of thought. Here's my best answer: When I see the PPM dropping too fast with the auto-topper, I increase the baseline PPM by anywhere from 10 to 50PPM and this slows down the rate of PPM drop. When the PPM drops very slowly or when it stays static for long periods, I know they're in a good feeding rhythm and are taking up as much as they can without burning (too much).
lordjin
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Yeah, that was a large scale Undercurrent op. They averaged under 1000W of lighting per plant, and harvested over 2lbs per plant. Gotta love vertical, bare-bulb lighting. I'm sure that was a HUGE part of the yield. But, they also seem to be having no issues with the system. How could you be mad at that?
Yeah, yeah... bare bulb concrete bunker... isn't that everyone's dream here? That lighting in the photo is sure insane. Yeah, no shit, 2 pounds each, huh? Sure looks like it.
It's all about the seals. If you know what you're doing with tools, it shouldn't leak. It's all about the seals... It's all about the seals... repeat, it's all about the seals. Can you tell I've worked with water before? Lol.
dsmoke1
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You're lucky there man. A lot of times you never know what you're getting from a club. The market is so flooded up here people will say anything to sell their product. For me, a young mother from seed does the trick for a ton of cuttings - How nice it must be to have a club that you can truly trust
Ordering seeds from overseas can be a pain at times.
lordjin
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These big shlongers are swaying in a gentle cool breeze that smells like indica dominant intensity. No more six foot tall bitches that take forever to finish. No sir, not for me.
The canopy is developing that nice 'aged' look. The leaves are seriously getting the life sucked out of them by the buds.
Last one for the night. Keep your eye out for buds even fatter than this. Peace!
Edit: OOps forgot to insert the picture! Lol. This is the last one I was talking about:
The canopy is developing that nice 'aged' look. The leaves are seriously getting the life sucked out of them by the buds.
Last one for the night. Keep your eye out for buds even fatter than this. Peace!
Edit: OOps forgot to insert the picture! Lol. This is the last one I was talking about:
lordjin
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You're lucky there man. A lot of times you never know what you're getting from a club. The market is so flooded up here people will say anything to sell their product. For me, a young mother from seed does the trick for a ton of cuttings - How nice it must be to have a club that you can truly trust
I heard that. I'm pretty happy about the fact that the question mark regarding genetics sources has been erased for me. I'm going nowhere else now. For anyone remotely near the West Hollywood area, or if you're anywhere near LA, it might be worth a little drive.. . Highly recommend.
lordjin
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Hey, hey... I don't want any stains in my journal now.
lordjin
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Much love, Hoss. Big shout out from me and my homies.... Well, just me, but thanks anyway. Lol!
4tatude
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lj
great journal with lots of thoughts and real exp on input. have read most in last couple of days, i dont have extensive growing knolidge or experiance, but have come to many of the same conclusions re 02 saturation and the whole dwc/ bubbler bucket concept.
as a plumber by trade i know how hard it is to set up a system without leaks etc. and thats from an experienced plumber, cant imagine some of the crashes experienced by the adverage joe thats unfamillier with plumbing. the 2 most important thing in any multi part system is testing and testing lol. a properly set up system should provide optimum conditons with verylittle maintenance required. jmo
im working with a bubbler bucket set up now and really like it because i can give individual attention, move around in tent area easiy, and use the base to tie to when shaping. i just tied all mine back last night and will flip in a couple days after recovery. i gained a foot of grow heighth just by shaping.
im loving this system but it and i will be ever evolving as we can always improve right?
great journal with lots of thoughts and real exp on input. have read most in last couple of days, i dont have extensive growing knolidge or experiance, but have come to many of the same conclusions re 02 saturation and the whole dwc/ bubbler bucket concept.
as a plumber by trade i know how hard it is to set up a system without leaks etc. and thats from an experienced plumber, cant imagine some of the crashes experienced by the adverage joe thats unfamillier with plumbing. the 2 most important thing in any multi part system is testing and testing lol. a properly set up system should provide optimum conditons with verylittle maintenance required. jmo
im working with a bubbler bucket set up now and really like it because i can give individual attention, move around in tent area easiy, and use the base to tie to when shaping. i just tied all mine back last night and will flip in a couple days after recovery. i gained a foot of grow heighth just by shaping.
im loving this system but it and i will be ever evolving as we can always improve right?
These big shlongers are swaying in a gentle cool breeze that smells like indica dominant intensity. No more six foot tall bitches that take forever to finish. No sir, not for me.
The canopy is developing that nice 'aged' look. The leaves are seriously getting the life sucked out of them by the buds.
Last one for the night. Keep your eye out for buds even fatter than this. Peace!
Edit: OOps forgot to insert the picture! Lol. This is the last one I was talking about:
what are the line of nutrients are u using?
lordjin
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Thanks for reading, amigo. Yeah, that multi-link undercurrent looks a little daunting, but I have extensive experience with cutting and cementing PVC joints, cutting custom holes in plastic tubs with heated x-acto knife... it just takes a little hand strength and determination to build an air-tight system. As a plumber, i'm sure you know this type of stuff is a joke compared to real pressure plumbing. I think you'd have a jump on all of us for that fact.
Anyway, I'm fuckin' starving and need to take a shower. I'll check your journal in a bit.
lordjin
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GH three part, Liquid Koolbloom, and Floralicious Plus. All GH, except Calmag by Botanicare. That's it!