rob333
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like this guy me and mites go way back aswell
Diagnosis please?
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Hot Diggity Sog
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This is the nutrient line I'm using:
http://www.blueplanetnutrients.com/index.php?option=com_rokecwid&view=ecwid&Itemid=202#!/3-Part-High-Yield-System/p/17106690/category=1350687
I'm currently running 50% strength of the suggested mixes as shown here:
http://www.blueplanetnutrients.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73&Itemid=113
rob333
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go over 50% i always run my nutes 1ml below the dose so if its 12ml per ltr wek 2 of flower i run 11ml so on and so on u can get away with mixing half grow with half flower if u think u are lacking in N or cal easy to do it that way then going out and running cal mag or somthing next time u go 12/12 from seed get a growth enhancer
greasemonkeymann
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hey I am not proud of that, but I live in the middle of the woods... and they are everywhere... its all about preventative maintenance, neem meal, crab meal, periodic sprays, rotating rosemary, peppermint, and eucalyptus. Helps, but they still are there, just not infesting
Hot Diggity Sog
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I think I discovered what the main problem was. I'm super pissed at myself because it was such a rookie mistake.
First, a small bit of background. When I first began feeding with my nute line I used full strength and burned them. Afterwards, I started at 25% of the scheduled strength and gradually worked up to 50% never exceeding that. During veg and early flower I would test the PH and it always seemed to be right at 7 which is what my well water is. I made the conclusion that the nutes did not drop the PH so I would always use 1.25 ml of PH down per gallon and I stopped testing. Since the flowering cycle requires so much more nutes than in veg and even early flower, I made the bad mistake of not contuning to test the water.
Today I did my 1st watering post-flush and I increased the nutes from 50% to 60% and I also added 4 ml per gallon of CalMag. I tested PH and it came in right at 6. So I now believe the primary issue was acidic water. With my water, 1 ml of PH down per gallon drops the PH a whole point so I have been watering with 4.8 ish PH since day 22 or so of flower...the last 17 days or so.
It is also possible that they were a little Cal/Mag deficient and they could also be needing more food but I'm not going to jump from 50% strength to 100% all at once. Based on what I've said and the earlier pictures, is acidic water a logical explanation? If so, how much damage have I done in regard to yield and quality would you think? As of last night, several other plants started showing the exact same signs as this one isolated plant.
First, a small bit of background. When I first began feeding with my nute line I used full strength and burned them. Afterwards, I started at 25% of the scheduled strength and gradually worked up to 50% never exceeding that. During veg and early flower I would test the PH and it always seemed to be right at 7 which is what my well water is. I made the conclusion that the nutes did not drop the PH so I would always use 1.25 ml of PH down per gallon and I stopped testing. Since the flowering cycle requires so much more nutes than in veg and even early flower, I made the bad mistake of not contuning to test the water.
Today I did my 1st watering post-flush and I increased the nutes from 50% to 60% and I also added 4 ml per gallon of CalMag. I tested PH and it came in right at 6. So I now believe the primary issue was acidic water. With my water, 1 ml of PH down per gallon drops the PH a whole point so I have been watering with 4.8 ish PH since day 22 or so of flower...the last 17 days or so.
It is also possible that they were a little Cal/Mag deficient and they could also be needing more food but I'm not going to jump from 50% strength to 100% all at once. Based on what I've said and the earlier pictures, is acidic water a logical explanation? If so, how much damage have I done in regard to yield and quality would you think? As of last night, several other plants started showing the exact same signs as this one isolated plant.
rob333
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tomato dust bro if u are doing outdoors cleaned them right up
rob333
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just flush em out like u were saying mate but the key is to get the nutes into them asap for maxium growth if u have past the 5-6 week mark well theres nothing u can do just let them ripen up
rob333
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if there say around the 3-5 wek mark get the nutes into after a flush they should be able to take it with no real damage mate also watch out for salt build ups
greasemonkeymann
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actually never had an issue outdoors with mites, only inside, but the last year I've had better luck, I think the issue that helped me was adding neem meal and crab meal, seemed to help... I don't know I did a bunch of different stuff this time, rosemary, peppermint, eucalyptus (dr bronners rules) spray all throughout the vege and early flowering stages, so it's hard to tell what the actual remedy was, and even still, they were STILL there, but just barely, and no where near the buds
Hot Diggity Sog
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Hey Rob,
I have started to scale up the feeding. As I had said earlier, I had been running 50% strength for the last few weeks. A few days ago I did 60% and yesterday I did 70%.
I am a little concerned that they might be getting too much Nitrogen now. The color of the leaves have gotten darker and some of them look a little glossy.
I realize I might be over-thinking this and trying to micro-manage too much but would you suggest altering the feeding schedule by continuing to increase feeding towards 100% strength but perhaps keep the high N parts at 50%?
Here is an example:
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Hot Diggity Sog
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That may very well be the case...I'll take your word for it as I certainly don't know. Either way, it does not really have anything to do with the topic at hand though, wouldn't you agree?
MammothGrow
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Well id say that was definitely a calcium deficiency for sure since it was showing up on the young leaves first. They look great in this photo and I would say no nutes for a little bit like a couple waterings, and more bloom food and less food with nitrogen when you do feed them again.
Hot Diggity Sog
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Thanks, that's helpful and kind of what my novice eyes were seeing as well.
Hot Diggity Sog
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I just flushed with plain water + a relatively small amount of cal mag, PH'd to just under 6. I will continue watering for another couple of days with only PH'd water and will resume feeding.
PK_Boosted
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Hey bud what base nutrients are you running? Big problem with running coco coir is there isn't any cal-mag or lime in the mix usually and you need to increase heavily from most base nutrients because there isn't enough to satisfy the appetitie of your plants in bloom especially.. Foliar feed at 8-10 ml/gal of cal-mag right now until you fix issue in root zone.. What strain your running is it a kush or chem strain then need run 10 ml/gal of additional cal-mag on top of base nutrients at every feeding including just water days.. That should solve your issue in a few days.. Spots may never go away but will not get my worse..
Also have you foliar feed lately ? Could be from water pellets left burning the leaves you didn't leave much info as to what your feeding or doing so I'm trying to cover all bases.. Def not spider mites
Also have you foliar feed lately ? Could be from water pellets left burning the leaves you didn't leave much info as to what your feeding or doing so I'm trying to cover all bases.. Def not spider mites
TheGoodGrower
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You'll probably be fine. Blue Planet Nutrients are excellent. You must keep your pH in check or your plants wont be able to absorb what they need. If you're in coco try about 5.8 or 5.9... In soil 6.5. For must strains I"ve found you can run BPN at full strength, and I'd push for that if I were you. Until you start to see burning on the tips or waaaaay dark green leaves, you're probably fine.
Like PK Boosted said, coco often requires additional Cal Mag. BPN has a lot in it, but some strains and coco really suck it up so about 5ml per gal of cal mag should help. If you don't have any calmag you can increase the Micro a little bit, that's where the calcium is in that kit you're using. But most importantly, get that pH in check.
Good luck to ya.