Dick's Stopped Being Dicks..

ttystikk

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Oh

My

God

somebody voted for national defense? (screaming sounds, rending of hair)
War monger.

So you're totally cool with the murder of millions of innocents around the world for the purpose of enriching American corporations?

That's a new low, even for you.
 

ttystikk

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This is why I don't understand why you are defending the status quo for gun control laws. Bernie recently came out in support of "Assault Weapons Ban". I personally think trying to re-start a ban that was pretty much the perfect example of a law defeated by loopholes is useless but at least it shows that Bernie isn't in support of the status quo for gun control laws.

BTW, Buck is being unfair when he complains about Sanders being high on the list of recipients of campaign donations from the NRA. All of those donations were legal. It is hypocritical to complain when Bernie receives donations from a PAC or organizations like the NRA and say it's OK when others Democrats receive legal donations from other groups.
The usual weak stab at misrepresentation, I see.

I said nothing of the sort. I said that solving our nation's income inequality problems will do more to reduce gun violence than any number of gun laws.

But make up any story you want. The truth has never stopped you before, why start now?
 

chiqifella

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so then why didn't all these indicators do anything?

all it takes for evil to prevail is good men doing nothing

ban a gun, perp steals a gun to kill kids, neighbor calls fbi with video, audio and verbal proof of perps intentions, fbi
chases fake terrorists instead, local police run and hide.

Can you tell what the real problem in this was?
 

chiqifella

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you are relying on a sock puppet for backup for your own sock puppet.

you said goodbye, so i guess you are leaving. bye. i will not miss you. no one will.
triggered, and
I sense yet another whacko with delusions. A world crumbling in around him. Everyone is a sock! Everyone is a racist! Everyone is against me!
 

schuylaar

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That's what I thought, total bullshit! :roll:

@schuylaar is not even a Mod here, and she posted that she suspected that a sock was someone named David. I saw it, and I knew that she did not know what she was talking about.

So your shrill whine about an Admin doxxing someone on this forum is wrong, and most people recognize it as juvenile.

Some day you will too. (maybe)


:mrgreen:
'david' is RIU-speak for a beat-on is about to occur:

 

schuylaar

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The stupidity is strong in this one.

here idiot, next time we'll use crayons?
strict

adjective: strict; comparative adjective: stricter; superlative adjective: strictest
demanding that rules concerning behavior are obeyed and observed

could bucktwit be any dumber?
you're both correct.

to make a law stricter you would have to alter in some way which would be construed as 'new' (unless it already contained a provision if certain terms weren't met then a new phase of that law would kick in)
 

schuylaar

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all it takes for evil to prevail is good men doing nothing

ban a gun, perp steals a gun to kill kids, neighbor calls fbi with video, audio and verbal proof of perps intentions, fbi
chases fake terrorists instead, local police run and hide.

Can you tell what the real problem in this was?
the real problem? none of it ever goes down the theoretical way..my ex found that out when he had to draw down and discharge his gun for realz on a traffic stop..and the guy took off; chase ensued; shots fired..dude went to the hospital; my ex was SUSPENDED and a FULL investigation was performed.

it's NEVER textbook..trained for 20 in one department was working on his second pension in another and had to qualify, train CONSTANT PROCESS..you're never really ready and if you think that happens IRL, you watch way too much tv.
 

chiqifella

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the real problem? none of it ever goes down the theoretical way..my ex found that out when he had to draw down and discharge his gun for realz on a traffic stop..and the guy took off; chase ensued; shots fired..dude went to the hospital; my ex was SUSPENDED and a FULL investigation was performed.

it's NEVER textbook..trained for 20 in one department was working on his second pension in another and had to qualify, train CONSTANT PROCESS..you're never really ready and if you think that happens IRL, you watch way too much tv.
I respect that. But we've been drilled with "See something Say something". These guys take an oath to do their job using our tax dollars. Specifically parents of dead children paid the FBI to respond to a report like this, and paid an officer to engage with a school shooter rather than hide.
first we need to examine the malfunctions of safeguards already in place that could have prevented the tragedy.
the gun didnt malfunction right?
Some say shooter bought the gun legally, some say he didnt...needs definite unambiguous direct answer is needed
Every safeguard designed specifically for this exact crime, even 31 warnings to local police, an overwhelming concern from school officials to mental health evaluates, a pre confession showing murderous intentions clearly video taped and broadcasted to the FBI less than 60 days prior to the killings.
If just one those 'see something say something" warnings were heeded, maybe enough to look into his recent firearm/weapons/gas mask purchases, drug use, neighbors witnessing erratic gun behavior etc....would not have mattered- the weapon of this mentally ill man's choice.
 

chiqifella

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you're both correct.

to make a law stricter you would have to alter in some way which would be construed as 'new' (unless it already contained a provision if certain terms weren't met then a new phase of that law would kick in)

you've misunderstood. to make a law stricter one only needs to "demand that the rules(concerning the current laws, the reactions, the enforcement, ) to make them stricter, as defined.
Laws are in place and not enforced properly. Rules from your mom were sometimes enforced, sometimes not. Some were adhered to strictly, meaning they were enforced, while other rules were not so strict, not enforced so much. When she wanted to be strict she only enforced here current rules.

hope this helps
 

schuylaar

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I respect that. But we've been drilled with "See something Say something". These guys take an oath to do their job using our tax dollars. Specifically parents of dead children paid the FBI to respond to a report like this, and paid an officer to engage with a school shooter rather than hide.
first we need to examine the malfunctions of safeguards already in place that could have prevented the tragedy.
the gun didnt malfunction right?
Some say shooter bought the gun legally, some say he didnt...needs definite unambiguous direct answer is needed
Every safeguard designed specifically for this exact crime, even 31 warnings to local police, an overwhelming concern from school officials to mental health evaluates, a pre confession showing murderous intentions clearly video taped and broadcasted to the FBI less than 60 days prior to the killings.
If just one those 'see something say something" warnings were heeded, maybe enough to look into his recent firearm/weapons/gas mask purchases, drug use, neighbors witnessing erratic gun behavior etc....would not have mattered- the weapon of this mentally ill man's choice.
talk talk talk that's all we do..bottom line: no one is prepared..no one, not even those who do it for a living; if we cannot rely on those who are paid to train, train and train it's pretty obvi that the US needs to take lesson from other countries who are succeeding in gun control.

Parkland was THE biggest case in point..and what that kid did no one could stop: he pulled an OUTSIDE fire alarm..he knew there was an RSO..all he had to do was turn around and leave with the other kids right through the back path to walmart and that's precisely what he did.

see something, say something?:lol: please read the OP on this thread..it's just two paragraphs.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/its-not-dicks-that-are-dicks-its-people.959887/

i'm for what australia did and hope we adopt something similar soon..it has never been more clear that this is about the almighty dollar.
 
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chiqifella

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talk talk talk

Parkland was THE biggest case in point..and what that kid did no one could stop: he pulled an OUTSIDE fire alarm..he knew there was an RSO..all he had to do was turn around and leave with the other kids right through the back path to walmart and that's precisely what he did.

see something, say something?:lol: please read the OP on this thread..it's just two paragraphs.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/its-not-dicks-that-are-dicks-its-people.959887/

we do talk talk talk, here because we like to see bucky make an ass out of himself further. we vote, we lock up our guns, we dont drug our mentally ill kids, we dont allow them to cache weapons etc, if everyone did this maybe no more shootings?

Parkland- Your description is what he did after he was done with the slaughter, the cop was hiding while the shooter was doing the murdering. how he attempted to get away with the crime is not anybody's concern except to train for this type of get away.
many things were in place, an armed guard at the school that hid, an fbi agent whoofing dosn taco bell instead of doing his job, mental health agencies that missed a daisy, parents missing the obvious, doctors over prescribing ssri's. nothing to do with how he left the school when finished. he was on a suicide mission like all of them, then changed his mind. suicide by cop, but they hid instead. He probably wanted that cop to do the deed too, then was pissed and left, pussy pigs he said.

op thread...notice the only like you got when posted?
 

schuylaar

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we do talk talk talk, here because we like to see bucky make an ass out of himself further. we vote, we lock up our guns, we dont drug our mentally ill kids, we dont allow them to cache weapons etc, if everyone did this maybe no more shootings?

Parkland- Your description is what he did after he was done with the slaughter, the cop was hiding while the shooter was doing the murdering. how he attempted to get away with the crime is not anybody's concern except to train for this type of get away.
many things were in place, an armed guard at the school that hid, an fbi agent whoofing dosn taco bell instead of doing his job, mental health agencies that missed a daisy, parents missing the obvious, doctors over prescribing ssri's. nothing to do with how he left the school when finished. he was on a suicide mission like all of them, then changed his mind. suicide by cop, but they hid instead. He probably wanted that cop to do the deed too, then was pissed and left, pussy pigs he said.

op thread...notice the only like you got when posted?
bucky's just playing a game. like a gamer except it's message board for him. he's actually quite normal.

no, no..he got out of his uber went to the freshmen 'portables' and pulled the outside fire alarm..this caused chaos with everyone running out of their LOCKED classrooms..all classrooms are locked now and have been for as long as i can remember. i delivered a balloon bouquet for my daughters birthday freshman year 2003-ish to the very same building those kids died in. trust me..that place is locked up and I couldn't believe what i had to go through to deliver them in person..they almost wouldn't let me. suicide by cop?:lol: you're not listening- once he shot for 7 minutes killing 17 he turned around and WALKED away PRETENDING HE WAS A STUDENT. he had no intention of killing himself.

it's time to stop splitting hairs..gun ownership should be a privilege not a right..like driving. when they wrote the 2a, i'm pretty sure they had muskets in mind not machine guns.
 
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chiqifella

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(you missed the possible mind change, many many people change their mind about suicide daily.
I believe the majority of school shooters would prefer they were shot.
Interviews show they sometimes have no recollection of what they've done, or
snapshots only. They are all deemed suicidal though, of course, all on suicide watch, all even medicated for
depression-with a medication label that clearly warns of suicidal tendencies, missing time, anger, hostility.

wouldnt you say that anyone walking into a school to shoot kids, knowing there is an armed guard on duty
is suicidal ?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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heroin is a plague on our society. its not getting here in the socks of red eye flights, rather ship tones all day and night at our largest most guarded ports. if someone wanted to smuggle illegal guns into our country all they'd have to do is wrap them in heroin, nobody finds that shit right

err, fukngubmnt

Haven’t they been doing that since Vietnam?

Maybe I saw it in a movie. Lol
 

Fogdog

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It's not so much that it's semi-automatic that's the problem.

It's the fact you can shove a single clip into it that holds up to 100 rounds. That's like having 9 cops open up on you with 45 caliber semi-automatic pistols at once.
Pinning large clips at five rounds and limiting any gun to no more than 10 rounds would be the Canada thing to do. Also restricting the sale of and tracking the possession of hand guns to licensed owners would be good too.

There are plenty of different strategies that work in other countries. We first need to clean out the GOP corruption in congress before anything can happen. Until then, bills proclaiming "ban sale of assault rifles" is good politics.
 
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