Digging my new Induction Light

hickerbilly

hickerbilly

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After reading numerous reviews and the information given to me by Damion at the Northern Lights Store in Mt. Vernon, Wa. I took the plunge and laid out $1200 for a new "igrow" light set-up. The price was shocking to me at first but.... when I looked at the 5-year warranty on the light and ballast... I started thinkin' about how much money I would save not having to replace 3-1000watt HPS and 2-1000watt MH bulbs over those years it started to make sense... then... adding the fact that I could run 2-"igrows" cheaper on electricity than 1-1000watt light it made mass sense... then... after finding these lights were invented by Nikola Tesla... I saw no reason not to try the igrow.
I bought the light in early February and have been using it since then. I bought the "Flower" bulb to try in my bud room.
I set up the igrow right next to a 1000watt HPS and placed one of my hashplants part way under the igrow and the other part 18" below the 1000watt HPS. The difference is amazing... I was told not to "expect the same production" but... I beg to differ from what I was told but... take a look at the picture I took on day 47 of flower cycle that I have attached.
You can see that the right side of the plant has considerably taller, thicker, and deeper green color buds than the left side. Needless to say... the right side was under the igrow. I can't wait to afford a couple more of these lights!IMGP1520.jpg
 
brotherjericho

brotherjericho

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Why is it that the people who sing the praises of induction lights (by brand name) only seem to post about said lights and have very few posts.

If you are legit, congrats!
 
hickerbilly

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Howdy Bro'... this was the only induction light I could find other than one on ebay without a hood. Since then... I have been in contact with an outfit in Kent Washington that says there's is even better than igrows at half the cost and has a 10-year warranty. I can have one delivered here for about $630... I'm a bit skeptical tho'... they say there's is a "full-spectrum" bulb and there is no need for a different bulb for flower or veg cycles... I'm not having much luck finding any more informative details on the light but... one of them might enter my room at a later date. The trip with the one I have now... is... if I have any trouble... a simple trip to the shitty (city) will remedy any warranty issues but... with the one in Kent... they "will get back to me with details when they are found." My mnain dillemma is... if I have trouble... will I have to wait a month or more for a replacement bulb/ballast to be sent from China.
They showed me a picture of it and the reflector only looks about 6" wide... I bought some add-on wings for my light and they made the light pattern way wider.
 
hickerbilly

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Don't worry... I'm not getting any affiliate compensation or anything like that. I like sharing stuff that I use and am happy with. :O)
 
hickerbilly

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So... I have a hickerbilly idea involving my new induction light and a fresnell lens... my gut tells me that I might be on to something cool as far as an indoor grow goes.
I am always seeing people offering old "Projection Screen TV's" for free on craigslist so they can avoid disposal fees.... the screens on those TV's are "Fresnell Lenses" that are like a giant rectangular magnifying lens.... my idea is to collect one of those old TV's so I can salvage the lens from it. My plan is to set the lens under the induction light to try and concentrate the light spectrum. I'm not a scientist but... something tells me this is worth pursuing .. if it doesn't work... all I will have wasted is time.
I will again place a plant half under one side of the light and visa-versa so this whole plant will be under the induction light but half of it will have the added fresnell lens.
I know it would never work with an HPS or MH light... if you focus a big fresnell lens down to about 2"... it will turn a brick to molten. With the heat from the HPS/MH bulbs... the plants would literally cook from the heat.... I hope the coolness of the induction light will alleviate that problem and maybe if the light concentrates the way I think it will... maybe a higher yield will result. If not... I have done way more stooopid things but.... I'll steer clear of any of those stories. :O)
 
Sativa Dragon

Sativa Dragon

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hickerbilly said:
After reading numerous reviews and the information given to me by Damion at the Northern Lights Store in Mt. Vernon, Wa. I took the plunge and laid out $1200 for a new "igrow" light set-up. The price was shocking to me at first but.... when I looked at the 5-year warranty on the light and ballast... I started thinkin' about how much money I would save not having to replace 3-1000watt HPS and 2-1000watt MH bulbs over those years it started to make sense... then... adding the fact that I could run 2-"igrows" cheaper on electricity than 1-1000watt light it made mass sense... then... after finding these lights were invented by Nikola Tesla... I saw no reason not to try the igrow.
I bought the light in early February and have been using it since then. I bought the "Flower" bulb to try in my bud room.
I set up the igrow right next to a 1000watt HPS and placed one of my hashplants part way under the igrow and the other part 18" below the 1000watt HPS. The difference is amazing... I was told not to "expect the same production" but... I beg to differ from what I was told but... take a look at the picture I took on day 47 of flower cycle that I have attached.
You can see that the right side of the plant has considerably taller, thicker, and deeper green color buds than the left side. Needless to say... the right side was under the igrow. I can't wait to afford a couple more of these lights!View attachment 2625395
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Heard all this B.S. before... Induction is a way of delivery of magnetic flux, You can also deliver it in a similar form only more efficiently... Thats right folks it is more efficient to grow with direct conduction through fixed cable... Than through induction through air with magnetic flux lines. no brainer, minutely atomic size savings for less PAR light, and fewer lumens... Hmm this makes complete sense why you would need to sell it so hard... Induction lighting has arrived far to late in the game to make any money... Sorry boys and girls if you by a induction light, you are buying old technology that was leaped over by technologies like CFL's and LED's. the only other is good ol faithful MH for veg and HPS for nice dense buds with a nice terpene profile.

Peace
 
hickerbilly

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Sativa Dragon said:
Heard all this B.S. before... Induction is a way of delivery of magnetic flux, You can also deliver it in a similar form only more efficiently... Thats right folks it is more efficient to grow with direct conduction through fixed cable... Than through induction through air with magnetic flux lines. no brainer, minutely atomic size savings for less PAR light, and fewer lumens... Hmm this makes complete sense why you would need to sell it so hard... Induction lighting has arrived far to late in the game to make any money... Sorry boys and girls if you by a induction light, you are buying old technology that was leaped over by technologies like CFL's and LED's. the only other is good ol faithful MH for veg and HPS for nice dense buds with a nice terpene profile.

Peace
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I really don't care what you "think." I am simply sharing technology that worked for me. I'm no scientist by a far shot nor am I affiliated with igrow. It doesn't matter to me whether you use an igrow or not. I have gotten a lot of good information through these Forums and thought I would return the favor by sharing something that I feel could help other growers.
If you work for some company that feels threatened by this technology... its easy to see why you want to shoot it down. I'm not influenced by "side-line" comments.... I'm influenced by seeing and doing. I am seeing excellent results so I'm doing more by eliminating the energy hog lights.
Peace
 
hickerbilly

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VaporTrail said:
If you had both lights in the same room your conclusions mean nothing. Just Sayin.
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I disagree... the igrow hood was 4" above the plant so hardly any of the HPS light could even hit the plant other than where the plant was exposed... if it didn't make any difference then explain to me why the buds that were directly under the igrow flourished so much more than the ones under the HPS? If it didn't matter... why are the buds so small on the left side? I have at least 8 personal witnesses/bro' and sis's that have seen this plant through its growth.
I'm about to try a new experiment... I am taking some white trash starts and will be placing one under the igrow and one outside in a raised garden box with a window roof (to keep rain off my buds) its 8' high at the low side of the roof pitch and 10' high at the peak. I haven't grown this strain yet so... I might do a deep water culture and a soil plant and place them both halfway under each light. It will probably be a couple months before I can afford my next igrow but... it will be worth the wait and... in the meantime I will run one more test side by side before selling my HPS lights.
I'll try to find time this evening to comment more. I'm about to start framing the first wall of my 16'x32' greenhouse that I'm currently building... the lower plate was placed on the footing yesterday and I'm focusing the majority of my time on that.
Peace
 
Sativa Dragon

Sativa Dragon

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To bad everyone else has heard all they need already to make a judgment, IGROW = old technology, induction anything is not new at all, induction heating induction motors, it is usful when you can't use wires like in three phase industrial motors, and when you are heating something through inductance into cookware or rather than through conductance with a resitive heating element, either way you are not gaining anything, you IGROW is a gimmick and is no more competative than growing with a large CFL of equal size and wattage. I may point out as well a good read for you would be the good ol fashion LAW of conservation of energy. And then rethink trying to vomit all this garbage about induction lighting. W don't need experiments to know that it is no more efficient at anything, cause if it was you would be able to go to any big box store and buy yourself a cutting edge energy efficient induction light for your home. I havent seen any so I guess by tat test it is nothing special.

Peace
 
hickerbilly

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My harvest was excellent!
After curing:
Hashplant 8oz.
White Widow 5oz.
White Rhino 6oz.
The hashplant turned out excellent... the buds that were under the igrow this whole round were denser and had less shrinkage after curing.
The white widow was the most potent I have ever grown. Past harvests have always varied between 4-6 oz.
The white rhino turned out excellent too.
The coolest part is... the potency is stronger in all 3-strains and there is much less volume lost during the cure.
All 3-strains turned out with way more density.
I hope to buy another light this week.
 
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contraptionated

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I'm certain there was an improved harvest with the additional light but a standalone test of the product would be more convincing, hence the doubting Thomases.
 
SCARHOLE

SCARHOLE

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LOVE MY INDUCTION LIGHT
Like a big ass t5 on steroids.
Mine was only 350$ + Shipping for a 400w
(direct from china)


Nycd Auto an Nycd x Mazari auto
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Im not selling shit, this light is great in a small sog/ scrog
It wont out yield a 1000 watter lol.
And it wouldnt be worth 1200$

Id say its about equal to 400-600 HID? IMHO

magnetic induction is used to light a flouro because its very efficient and more importantly the filliment an end are the week point in the bulb.
By running a sealed bulb an exciting the mercury with induction you can Geatly extend the life of the bulb.
 
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contraptionated

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I like this info you posted, Scarhole, about the induction light. It gives me a thorough frame of reference. Also the plant pics are berry, berry good. To be very honest, all the pics I've seen of plants flowered with the induction light , are showing very high quality buds. If the price of these fixtures comes down, I'll be very much obliged to use them in the veg room.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Sativa Dragon said:
Heard all this B.S. before... Induction is a way of delivery of magnetic flux, You can also deliver it in a similar form only more efficiently... Thats right folks it is more efficient to grow with direct conduction through fixed cable... Than through induction through air with magnetic flux lines. no brainer, minutely atomic size savings for less PAR light, and fewer lumens... Hmm this makes complete sense why you would need to sell it so hard... Induction lighting has arrived far to late in the game to make any money... Sorry boys and girls if you by a induction light, you are buying old technology that was leaped over by technologies like CFL's and LED's. the only other is good ol faithful MH for veg and HPS for nice dense buds with a nice terpene profile.

Peace
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No induction lights are not new and have been around forever. The reason that lighting companies don't make them is there is no money in it for them. You don't get rich selling people a bulb they need to replace in 10 years.

There are enough grows on the sites to show that they do a good job and will become more popular as the price comes down. There are lots of people doing it and lots have chosen a brand and are proud of it, much like your proud of your kush or whatever your smoking. I think if you go have a good look you will see it's starting to catch on. The other factor here is most people who grow dope don't believe in tomorrow so they go cheap on everything. People who grow meds are willing to spend money on good equipment and are often the early adopters of new technology that enters the growing market. Here are a few more reasons why you might consider them.

Unlike traditional grow lights, induction grow lighting has several great advantages.

1. More energy saving. Induction grow lights have a power factor over 0.99, meaning much less energy loss.

2. Low lumen degradation. Induction grow light can keep over 85% lumen output after 20,000 hours, meaning you get good lighting performance for a long time.

3. Instant start-up and restart-up. There is no warm up time for induction grow lights. The restart-up time is less than 0.5s. It's important when power failures occurs.

4. Wide voltage range. Induction grow lights voltage range can be 110V to 300V, good for places with unstable voltage.

5. Wide environmental temperature range. Induction grow lights can work in temperature from -30℃ to 55℃.

6. Long life span. The normal life of induction grow light is over 60,000 hours.

All the hype kind of sounds like LED's don't it. But it's not this is the real deal and I hope to have a room full to do a test soon. The cost reduction is just to good to pass up. I have a few customers that are using them and they love them. I have seen the grows and am impressed.

So keep an open mind and you will see what they can do.

Peace
 
Taviddude

Taviddude

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It's STILL a FLORESCENT LIGHT.
It has nowhere near the PENETRATION of a 1000 watter.


Try the same experiment with clones, and separate tents.
That plant benefited plenty from the 1000 watter next to it.
 
hickerbilly

hickerbilly

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hickerbilly said:
After reading numerous reviews and the information given to me by Damion at the Northern Lights Store in Mt. Vernon, Wa. I took the plunge and laid out $1200 for a new "igrow" light set-up. The price was shocking to me at first but.... when I looked at the 5-year warranty on the light and ballast... I started thinkin' about how much money I would save not having to replace 3-1000watt HPS and 2-1000watt MH bulbs over those years it started to make sense... then... adding the fact that I could run 2-"igrows" cheaper on electricity than 1-1000watt light it made mass sense... then... after finding these lights were invented by Nikola Tesla... I saw no reason not to try the igrow.
I bought the light in early February and have been using it since then. I bought the "Flower" bulb to try in my bud room.
I set up the igrow right next to a 1000watt HPS and placed one of my hashplants part way under the igrow and the other part 18" below the 1000watt HPS. The difference is amazing... I was told not to "expect the same production" but... I beg to differ from what I was told but... take a look at the picture I took on day 47 of flower cycle that I have attached.
You can see that the right side of the plant has considerably taller, thicker, and deeper green color buds than the left side. Needless to say... the right side was under the igrow. I can't wait to afford a couple more of these lights!View attachment 2625395
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I bought a second igrow for $900 and 2 months ago bought two more used (not igrow) ones on ebay for $300/each. They have no brand name on them. I found a guy that will sell me more new off brand ones for $350. The new one's are full spectrum inductions and I'm running them in the veg room... the girls love them.
 
hickerbilly

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woodsmaneh! said:
No induction lights are not new and have been around forever. The reason that lighting companies don't make them is there is no money in it for them. You don't get rich selling people a bulb they need to replace in 10 years.

There are enough grows on the sites to show that they do a good job and will become more popular as the price comes down. There are lots of people doing it and lots have chosen a brand and are proud of it, much like your proud of your kush or whatever your smoking. I think if you go have a good look you will see it's starting to catch on. The other factor here is most people who grow dope don't believe in tomorrow so they go cheap on everything. People who grow meds are willing to spend money on good equipment and are often the early adopters of new technology that enters the growing market. Here are a few more reasons why you might consider them.

Unlike traditional grow lights, induction grow lighting has several great advantages.

1. More energy saving. Induction grow lights have a power factor over 0.99, meaning much less energy loss.

2. Low lumen degradation. Induction grow light can keep over 85% lumen output after 20,000 hours, meaning you get good lighting performance for a long time.

3. Instant start-up and restart-up. There is no warm up time for induction grow lights. The restart-up time is less than 0.5s. It's important when power failures occurs.

4. Wide voltage range. Induction grow lights voltage range can be 110V to 300V, good for places with unstable voltage.

5. Wide environmental temperature range. Induction grow lights can work in temperature from -30℃ to 55℃.

6. Long life span. The normal life of induction grow light is over 60,000 hours.

All the hype kind of sounds like LED's don't it. But it's not this is the real deal and I hope to have a room full to do a test soon. The cost reduction is just to good to pass up. I have a few customers that are using them and they love them. I have seen the grows and am impressed.

So keep an open mind and you will see what they can do.

Peace
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Plenty of trolls out there trying to put these lights down... I gotta laugh.... its almost been a year of using these now... I no longer run any HPS lights. My power bill is now $400 less using 4 inductions. Part of that savings is from the air conditioner not having to run. Bought my last two used for $300 each... they were demo's with less than 100 hrs. on them. The guy I bought the used ones from will sell me new one's for $350.... buying 2 more next month. The inductions only draw 1.6 Amps at 220v. :)
 
hickerbilly

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SCARHOLE said:
LOVE MY INDUCTION LIGHT
Like a big ass t5 on steroids.
Mine was only 350$ + Shipping for a 400w
(direct from china)


Nycd Auto an Nycd x Mazari auto
View attachment 2674386View attachment 2674387


Im not selling shit, this light is great in a small sog/ scrog
It wont out yield a 1000 watter lol.
And it wouldnt be worth 1200$

Id say its about equal to 400-600 HID? IMHO

magnetic induction is used to light a flouro because its very efficient and more importantly the filliment an end are the week point in the bulb.
By running a sealed bulb an exciting the mercury with induction you can Geatly extend the life of the bulb.
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Is yours a flower or veg inductive? The two new used ones I bought are full spectrum... not sure if these guys have a flower bulb or not.... loving what they are doing in my veg tent.... yes... these are the ones from china. I'm getting a better harvest with the expensive igrow flower bulbs than I got with my HPS's.... just curious if your thought of the induction not keeping up with 1000 watters was because yours is a full spectrum bulb? I wish I could have found some back in february for $350... good score! I paid $300 each for 2 used chinese ones... used with about 100 hrs. on them. The guy I bought the used ones from will sell me new ones with the big hoods for $350.
 
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