Disappointed in my autoflower seedlings.

So I ordered some Paradise Pandora autos. This is my 4th or 5th grow, my second with autoflowers. These seeds germinated great....only a couple days. I started them in Fox Farm Happy Frog. I have used Happy Frog for my last 2 grows, and have started seeds of various strains with great success in it. But for some reason, I have 3 of these seedlings that pretty much look the same. Starting them under the same type of CFLs I have in the past. Bad genetics maybe? I bought a package of 5, and only germed 3. Really, really dissapointed, they are a weak old and doing nothing! I'm thinking bad genetics.....any ideas?

For some reason, that picture showed up sideways. Sorry.

Here is another one. Hopefully this picture is upright! I can't figure out what I have done wrong/different from last year. They are under a humidity dome, and I experimented with it off and on to see if it made a difference.

I also germed a Dinafem Cheese. But, I got the pots mixed up when I planted the seeds, and thought this one was a Pandora autoflower. But it looks solid, and unlike my other three, so I am thinking it's the cheese.

*I am not sure why these pics are coming up sideways, as they look upright on my mac.

why don't you contact the company you bought them from sometimes they will send you more seeds thats pretty ridiculous that they didn't germinate wat company did you buy them from?

Attitude. They did germ, they looked awesome when they germed. Just look like crap now, after I planted the germ seed in soil.....good soil.

I'm tempted to germ the last two Paradise Pandora's I have, just to see. I wanted to save them, but I also wanted some medicine in June.

happy frog is a bit nute hot, ff sells light warrior which is made for seedlings, i suggest using that.

It sucks, because I use cannabis to control my bi-polar and and anxiety. I have a little back pain from a past car accident also. But, I live in the middle of nowhere, don't have many friends, so therefore I grow my own medicine. And when I am out of it, I go without. Don't really know where to find it. Fall is a long ways away!

have you though about spraying the seedlings and carefully taking off the stuck on seed shells...oddly enough I have some autoflowers that would just sit there in the seed casing until I would pick it off and then they would be alright and proceed as normal...it is like they made it so far and then became confused...what it really is is not planting the seeds deep enough..it is exciting to get them above the soil so fast, but ideally you won't ever see the seed...if you see the seed then it usually means that it is planted too shallow...the seed casing stays in teh soil and wet so the plant can berak through it..when the casings get dry they harden back up and the plant is basically trapped in there...I left one on for so long that the next set of leaves started to grow through the edges of the seed casing, and that was when I was like what?! It's like watching a chicken hatch...when do you step in? When there seems to be a good deal of struggle occurring...I know in nature the plant will make it out of the shell or die...but this isn't nature...we are trying to get better results through unnatural selection...so take the seed casing off of there, and next time plant the germed seed farther down...

Swale84 said:

It sucks, because I use cannabis to control my bi-polar and and anxiety. I have a little back pain from a past car accident also. But, I live in the middle of nowhere, don't have many friends, so therefore I grow my own medicine. And when I am out of it, I go without. Don't really know where to find it. Fall is a long ways away!

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shit, try giving them an alright flush, poke holes in the soil and fill them with perlite. this will help the roots breath. stay 2" away from the main stem as well. and damn missnu ive never had seed problems like that, casings usually fall off for me by the 3rd day tops. removing it could help too

Thanks for all the help guys. I have heard that Happy Frog is hot, but like I said, the last two summers I started seeds the same exact way in it. Maybe it was too hot for this strain. thanks for the suggestions though, Always love learning new shit on here!

transplanted these crappers as delicately as I could into some organic jiffy seed starting mix I have. It is a 50% peat moss and 50% vermiculite mix. Think I am probably going to end up taking the loss on them, which is real bummer. Germinated my last two pandora's today and am going to try to start them in the jiffy mix.

have you tried removing the seed casing...?
Seeds are kind of like a baby plant with a small battery...and as soon as that seed cracks open the battery starts getting used...the baby plant has only so long to make it out of the soil with some leaves to start making energy, before the battery dies and they are stranded without...so if you plant a seed to deep and the battery dies before you see leaves then that is that...but when you plant too shallow---(which happens to me anytime I use a paper towel to germ) if you plant too shallow then the whole seed pops up through the soil, and can sometimes reharden...I got some autoflowers I was super excited about...like checking the mail 2 and 3 times a day excited...anyway got them and germ'd 5 in a papertowel, and as soon as I saw a shadow of a root tip I planted them into jiffy pucks but to where the seed was like barely covered...and they all sprouted up...some the next day and 2 the day after, but they were all stalks with seeds attached...and I decided to wait a few days and see if they emerged on their own...and 2 did within 3 or 4days... but 3 plants were still stalks and seeds...so I sprayed the seed casing with water all through the day and then very very gently peeled it off...of each one...and on one I broke a cotyledon, but no harm done since it had weirdo white tiny true leaves sticking out...they had started to grow but got no light and just ran out of chlorophyll...as light deprived plants do...anyway...once I got the casings off they were fine...even the broke one with the white leaves...and they got their color back within 6 hours of being under the light...only one plant was female...and she ended up being a weirdo the begin with...as soon as she started growing she had 2 identical tops, but I hadn't topped her...and she wasn't the one with the weird leaves......blah blah blah none of this matters...at least try to peel off the seed casing before you decide to trash them...this is true stuff I am giving you here...but I too was disappointed in the yield of my lonely little autoflower, but she was mostly seeds...because the others were male and I ordered this pack to make seeds...so I could whimsically throw one in if I had an opening....so I mean it served it's purpose, but I figured there would be something to smoke...once you got the seeds out...and I guess there were, but only like 3 or 4 grams...lol. She was only 7 inches tall with 2 shoots and all the way up it was just 2 colas, but I didn't let her finish out...she looked great the whole time...and at one point in early veg before she showed sex I actually accidentally watered her with Lysol that wasn't even diluted, so had to frantically repot...and since I wasn't planning on repotting anything just then I managed to leave her in the bag of soil while I went to get a pot, and then forgot I had put her there and just turned up the bag to fill up the pot...thusly burying her...but I dug her back out, dusted her off, stuck her in the new soil and she kept on keeping on...but as I said there were too many setbacks..I can't wait to do one I don't mess up...I mean through all this her growth never stopped, her leaves never even yellowed...I feel she could have yielded more than just seeds if I hadn't pulled her early as well...but I was waiting on those seeds, and since she was pollinated the moment she showed hairs they were ready...got hundreds of seeds though...I don't how I didnt hear the plant click when in the path of the fan...it was hilarious...but seeds is what I wanted and sweet heavens I got them...had to sweep them out of the floor underneath where I hung her to dry... So, I was disappointed in me... just like i will be disappointed in you if you don't at least try to see if something so simple is the issue, before just saying awww man....

as for a seed not growing because soil is too hot...that is crap...it will sprout and be a seedling, and then the leaves go all crazy but usually recover as long as you don't overwater...I have a clone that can't take any nutes in veg at all unless you veg for 3 months...she has her first deficient leaf...this is the first time I have been able to manage to not feed her anything for this long to see...she is forever nute burnt from me trying to soon, but now I know it is around the 97th day...so if I take her 12/12 from clone using only one mom in veg..I bet I can finish her looking awesome with no nutes...clone has been flowering for going on the 4th week...so only between 6 and 8 more weeks....takes forever....blah blah blah...hot soil will make for ugly seedlings...hot soil with overwatering makes for dead sprouts...so DO NOT TRY TO FLUSH... that is what hurts things...is when you flush small plants that are in prenuted soils...the plant will adjust to the levels in the soil alone as long as you water infrequently until the plant gets larger...when you flush you are releasing huge amounts of the nutrients in the soil all at once...so in trying to remove some you have tripled how much is there...I have made that mistake too many times....

I removed the seed casing. A couple days later they looked worse. I am sure I didn't over water them. I have them now in my jiffy mix, so hopefully they come around. Like I said in my earlier post, I also started a Dinafem Cheese with these. Then, I got the cheese mixed up with the autoflower pots. But I have one plant doing awesome, just like my seedlings in the past, so I am thinking it is the Cheese, whereas the three seedlings that looked sickling and identical are prob the three autoflowers. I will se what they do, as they are prob in some shock.

Swale84 said:

I removed the seed casing. A couple days later they looked worse. I am sure I didn't over water them. I have them now in my jiffy mix, so hopefully they come around. Like I said in my earlier post, I also started a Dinafem Cheese with these. Then, I got the cheese mixed up with the autoflower pots. But I have one plant doing awesome, just like my seedlings in the past, so I am thinking it is the Cheese, whereas the three seedlings that looked sickling and identical are prob the three autoflowers. I will se what they do, as they are prob in some shock.

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got any pics? you could have some sort of pest eating at their roots or something of that sort, but plenty of things come into play when a seedling starts to wither. hows your temps?