Disturbing Trend in Medical Marijuana Laws

TASedlak

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Disturbing Trend in Medical Marijuana Laws
By: T.A. Sedlak (Author of Anarcho Grow)


Yesterday, January 11th, New Jersey's legislature passed a bill to legalize medical marijuana. However, their bill is noticeably different than those already passed in thirteen other states. New Jersey is the first state to legalize marijuana for medical patients, but not allow patients to grow their own. Instead patients are forced to purchase their marijuana from government run dispensaries.


While most proponents of medical marijuana appear happy that New Jersey patients can at least legally possess their medicine, others look at the bill as a step back. The facts are that dispensaries often charge steep prices that medical patients can't afford. Many patients are already encumbered by large medical bills, and forcing them to purchase their pot from the state is a burden. They're happy that they can now possess it, but more has to be done.


New Jersey's decision doesn't appear to be a singular case either. There is currently a bill in the Wisconsin state legislature to legalize medical marijuana, and Senator Tim Carpenter (Dem) recently tacked on an amendment that would continue to make it illegal for patients to grow their own. However, there is little buzz about this within the medical marijuana community in Wisconsin. Like folks in New Jersey, many people in Wisconsin just want to get possession legalized.


Still, there should be a simultaneous movement for the legalization of possession and cultivation. Proponents should not only tell people to write their representatives supporting legalization bills, but also tell them to let their representatives know the legalization of cultivation is necessary. Otherwise, the movement is just going to switch from “Legalize our Medicine” to “Stop Taxing our Medicine.” Let's try to get them both passed at once.
 

Delusional

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A "disturbing trend" would mean this is something occurring all over the country. As you stated, this is not the case...

"New Jersey is the first state to legalize marijuana for medical patients, but not allow patients to grow their own"

Your own statement contradicts your own title, how ironic. Nonetheless, thanks for sharing.
 

ruderalis88

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interesting stuff

it's not really much of a contradiction (cause Wisconsin is about to be the 2nd state to now legalise private mmj growing)

and apart from that it wasn't bad at all

:bigjoint:
 

jjmd

Well-Known Member
Disturbing Trend in Medical Marijuana Laws
By: T.A. Sedlak (Author of Anarcho Grow)


Yesterday, January 11th, New Jersey's legislature passed a bill to legalize medical marijuana. However, their bill is noticeably different than those already passed in thirteen other states. New Jersey is the first state to legalize marijuana for medical patients, but not allow patients to grow their own. Instead patients are forced to purchase their marijuana from government run dispensaries.


While most proponents of medical marijuana appear happy that New Jersey patients can at least legally possess their medicine, others look at the bill as a step back. The facts are that dispensaries often charge steep prices that medical patients can't afford. Many patients are already encumbered by large medical bills, and forcing them to purchase their pot from the state is a burden. They're happy that they can now possess it, but more has to be done.


New Jersey's decision doesn't appear to be a singular case either. There is currently a bill in the Wisconsin state legislature to legalize medical marijuana, and Senator Tim Carpenter (Dem) recently tacked on an amendment that would continue to make it illegal for patients to grow their own. However, there is little buzz about this within the medical marijuana community in Wisconsin. Like folks in New Jersey, many people in Wisconsin just want to get possession legalized.


Still, there should be a simultaneous movement for the legalization of possession and cultivation. Proponents should not only tell people to write their representatives supporting legalization bills, but also tell them to let their representatives know the legalization of cultivation is necessary. Otherwise, the movement is just going to switch from “Legalize our Medicine” to “Stop Taxing our Medicine.” Let's try to get them both passed at once.
The only reason NJ did this is becaus PA right next to it leagalized gaming. there fore they lost revenue on taxes earned from their gaming industry. why travel 100 miles to gamble when you can do it in your own backyard. Governments will try to make money any way they can!!! Including screwing the sick, unfortunately.
 
MMJ patients can still buy from their connect.....isn't like the government has special chemical detection that can differentiate between gov't bud and street bud.
 

growone

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this seems to be exactly what is happening
just heard that NY has restarted its medical legislation from last year when the state legislature had a meltdown
however, this time NO cultivation allowed by patients, just dispensary's
this would royally suck, we've been waiting a long time for NY to make move on this bill
dispensary's would be fine for some, but a whole lot of others would find this undoable from cost
hoping this is not true, last year the talk was it would strictly patient grown(with designated caregivers)
 

doc111

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this seems to be exactly what is happening
just heard that NY has restarted its medical legislation from last year when the state legislature had a meltdown
however, this time NO cultivation allowed by patients, just dispensary's
this would royally suck, we've been waiting a long time for NY to make move on this bill
dispensary's would be fine for some, but a whole lot of others would find this undoable from cost
hoping this is not true, last year the talk was it would strictly patient grown(with designated caregivers)
I want to know if these mmj states which aren't allwoing cultivation have a provision setup for where the medical marijuana is going to come from. If patients can't grow their own who will? The state? They better get on it then because they are gonna need to grow a whole lot of medicine! :bigjoint:
 

growone

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I want to know if these mmj states which aren't allwoing cultivation have a provision setup for where the medical marijuana is going to come from. If patients can't grow their own who will? The state? They better get on it then because they are gonna need to grow a whole lot of medicine! :bigjoint:
probably not the state, i'd figure there would be a licensing/dispensary setup
like some others have said, money thing probably
not going to make enough with just some people going to dispensary? they want it all taxed
 

doc111

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probably not the state, i'd figure there would be a licensing/dispensary setup
like some others have said, money thing probably
not going to make enough with just some people going to dispensary? they want it all taxed
It's about $$ for sure. Almost seems like it's the only thing they are good for. :fire:
 

TASedlak

Member
Thanks for the responses, everyone.

And to address an issue raised: While the legal route for medical patients in states with this law will be to get it from a state run dispensary, I imagine it will be people contracted through the state. There will probably be some people in the state licensed to grow for the dispensary. Also, there will probably be some sort of restrictions making it so dispensaries can only have enough to distribute to their clientele that are signed up with them. However, I assume there will be a lot sold under the table that comes from illegal grow shops.

While Michigan's system is restrictive (people can grow their own, but there are no dispensaries), I find it preferable. There are medical clubs set up where people get together and barter and sell to each other without state intervention. I'll be meeting with people who belong to these clubs at the Michigan Caregivers Cup at the end of the month and doing a write up on them.

Thanks again for the responses.
 

growone

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Conservative elements in NJ weren't comfortable with patients growing their medicine, dispensary only. Seems that thought has crept into the NY legislature, conservative elements again.
But I recently see 'conservative' elements in Colorado want to derail the dispensary system. And isn't this what's been happening in LA? I mean WTF! Conservatives are ping ponging from 'grow your own' is evil, no wait, it's the dispensary's are wicked!
Maybe just want to be assholes in general. What ever system it is, they don't like it.
 

bkbudz

Active Member
I live in both NY and NJ. When I first read the NJ bill I noticed that the plant limit was only 6, but imagine my surprise when I reread the passed bill and it was amended to prohibit cultivation.

The requirements are stringent and will exclude many patients who could benefit from marijuana. Anxiety, stress, depression, migraines, anorexia are not covered. Pretty much the big C, HIV/AIDS, MS. Luckily for myself, wasting syndrome and severe nausea as the result of a disease or treatment of the disease are covered.

I was hoping NY would allow cultivation, since I cannot afford to buy as much bud as I need. It is disturbing that they are now considering this amendment, especially since marijuana is the largest cash crop in the state. I will continue to grow, but I still look forward to the day when I can grow without fear of persecution or prosecution. As much as I love walking down the street in Brooklyn with a blunt in my mouth, I can definitely deal with smoking in my house.

NJ has been in a budget deficit of several billion dollars for years now. The state could still tax dispensaries and sell licenses the way they do for tobacco and alcohol. With more dispensaries and patients, there would be a larger tax base. Shit, I'd pay special taxes to grow a few plants legally.
 

Dan Kone

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Yesterday, January 11th, New Jersey's legislature passed a bill to legalize medical marijuana. However, their bill is noticeably different than those already passed in thirteen other states. New Jersey is the first state to legalize marijuana for medical patients, but not allow patients to grow their own. Instead patients are forced to purchase their marijuana from government run dispensaries.

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Wow. That is quite disturbing.
 

newbie72

Active Member
From what i understand...the caregivers cup in MichiganYPSI....this weekend is all smoke and mirrors to raise money to screw us all....the proceeds of the event are lining some pockets of those that are pushing the bill in Michigan where you have to buy from a dispensary, and there will only be 10 licenses given to HUGE MONEY COMPANIES. If you provide money to this event....and the bill passes... Ten licenses will be given out and the only growers in MICHIGAN will be these people that the Freedy I mean Greedy politicians appoint! Not "you and Me" the caregivers and the patients appoint! I wonder who will get the licenses...??Phamacuitical companies? Politicians "relatives" that own the biggest greenhouses in the state? Hmmmmm....if you go to the caregives cup you are giving money to a politician that wants to grow your medicine for you and me for there profit....and regulate you..If you go to the cup you are foolish....I'm just sayin! Pay attention to who you want to have the right to grow your medicine, you, your caregiver or them!
Anyone want to comment???Let it rip...stay away...and pass it Onnnnnnnnnn Brothers and sistahs! If you are going to enter the cup think about the value of your entry fee 2.5 oz of meds plus a 100$ So there getting say $800 bucks from each entry...? hmmmmm.....thats alot of loot! Plus the ticket cost and the advertisers fees plus all the booth fees...think about how much cash people are gonna give to someone that wants to take your right to grow your meds....I'm just saying.....passs it on!
 
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