DIY Closet DWC Grow - First grow ever

Hulk Nugs said:

right on jig sounds like you have the right girl by your side. i second what smoote said i dont have a dehumidifier, i have a humidifier and that will spill every were if i dont have it level and all. I still have to go back and read about the updated info smoote hooked us up with thanks for that smoote. Oh yea you need two dehumidifers ??

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No problem. Remember to use the info as a starting point. I feel customization of your grow to be best suited for your needs is essential... mostly for your sanity. I hate being too frustrated or working harder than i have to. So adjust and play with your formula until its what you want it to be. Thats what i did and the benefits were great. Haha i'm trying to do that with my DIY hydro nutes right now and its going so good.

Oh and if anyone here is into planted freshwater aquariums that's where my real expertise is and i could talk your ear off. You guys are a good set of growers, the conversations are good and the rapport is even better. Classy guys here.

Alright so the mother's on her way down for easter so i got some cleaning to do.

Edit: Got a new thread and question Jig, if you're up for it. It's a simple question but i just want that reassurance you know?

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/182952-starting-seeds-out-medium-sorta.html

what's up greenpheonix, ontheDL... glad to see you pop in. I was trying to get quantum high last night after the inspiration... I just passed out.

smoote, my light barely fits in my closet now, there is just no room for any vent adaptors, I will add it to my building instructions for other though.

Again, thanks for the co2 info. I got some supplies and will be upgrading today.

I'm going to try the dehumidifier in a different place today, after hours of operation last night there was zero water, not a drop. I don't think it is non-functional, I just think with the config of the closet the moisture does not spread throughout the space. I think it is all trapped below the reflector. I really need to get a couple more fans to help with that situation. I am worried about mold as the gravity makes the buds super dense and my humidity gets up to around 60% overnight.

About aquariums... I've never really cared so much about them, but after doing all the shopping and research for this grow, I kinda fell in love a bit with coral aquariums. I think it would be fun to have a big ass setup like that (someday). Lots of money and lots of space, but the corals sure are beautiful. Can we all see a pic of one of your aquariums, you can post it on the thread if you want.

About the thermostat, I know I explained, but will again. During the day if I have the door closed it used to heat up pretty good, 93 f maybe. That was before I taped up my light good. Now the temps even with the door closed stay pretty low, like around 76. Long story short, my temps don't really change at all. If anything I need a repeating timer for the exhaust fan for fresh air, but I can't really use the thermostat because it just stays the same temp.

Thanks for all the input on karma. It was interesting to see what you guys thought or think, whatever.

Hope everyone is having a good Easter, whether you celebrate it or not.

Good luck with mom there smoote, and I took a swing at your question on the other thread.

And don't worry, I didn't buy that huge thing of protein mix just for the co2. I had it becuase I was not eating any animals for lent and needed a little supplementation. I'm having shrimp today, hell yeah.

While your girlfriend or wife may not actually be growing the pot in your garden they are probably the biggest part of the whole operation. Because if you have one (at least serious) you will be having to explain/ deal with the fact you will be spending lots of time, money, effort, and emotion on the plants and the set up. This in not only true with growing but everything in life.

My 'secrets' to a great relationship (most of the time it's great) are two things: Communication and Honesty. I know I sound like a relationship book. Now here's the REAL SECRET... marriage counseling.

I don't know how you guys feel about going to a therapist, I know most guys are like 'that shit is girly... that's bullshit... I don't need to talk to someone to fix things'. I always hated the idea of counseling/ therapy... but I had a breakdown thing, I call it my midlife crisis (only it happened at 22). So that got me into therapy, not for very long, but it opened me to the possibility. Don't get me wrong, I have been to 6 different people over the course of my life now and only 2 were worth anything. So it is not super easy, BUT.... me and my wife find so much we gain from going together.

I think the biggest thing you get from counseling is you understand how your partner feels and where they are coming from. The doctor doesn't really do to much, just really steers the conversation or asks good questions here and there. But really it is like a conversation between me and my wife, only we direct it to the doc so it changed the whole dynamic. We started going before we got married for a few months. We have gone a few times since we've been married, not really because we don't get along, but because every time we go, we have a better relationship. It's like a refresher course in how to really understand each other.

So all that has allowed us to be more open and honest. We can ask eachother anything because we will say no if we don't want to. There isn't weird pressure to do things that we think we are expected to. If I want something I say it. Doesn't mean it will happen, but it is out there and we can talk about it. So I can ask my wife 3 times if she feel like going to home depot for me, and she says 'i don't really feel like it', but sometimes she does feel like it.

I know that doesn't answer the question of how to make your wife less afraid of hardware stores, but it is what I got. If it were my wife I would ask why she doesn't like going into them so bad and see if there is away to fix that.

One thing that's great about my wife is that she never thought she was going to get married, she's an independent girl, so she doesn't have much problem going anywhere by herself. She's also a big girl so she doesn't so much have to worry about getting attacked or something (i'd like to see them try it).

Funny thing about the honesty... We met on craigslist (that's funny right there). She posted looking for an "Educated Redneck" I wrote back and said I'm educated, like drinking beer, and enjoy nascar. That might make me a redneck. I said my intro to her, and at the end (because I was tired of wasting time and playing game) I said: "I'm a great guy but have 3 issues:
1. I smoke tons of pot
2. I don't have a car
3. I'm 3 years younger than you
I figured if she ever responded to that, then she could deal with me. She wrote back and after about the worst first 1st year people can have we pulled through.

I'm like Dr. Laura and shit.

edit: I read this to the Wife and she reminded me... I go into her makeup store with her and don't act all sullen. I have bought Tampons by myself at the drug store (and they were the only thing I was getting). I also help her pick things out at home, online, or in the store, so I guess a little back scratching here and there doesn't hurt either.

Shouts out to Threepete23 for the love on youtube...

Thanks man.

My mix ended up being:

~2 L RO water
2 packs (1.5 Tblspn) - Yeast
2 cups - Sugar
1 Tblspn - Molasses (grandma's brand)
2 teaspn - Protein Mix (vanilla flavor)
1 teaspn - Baking Soda

I mixed the yeast with 1 cup water and 1/4 cup sugar with a wisking thing (my wife uses it to make froth on her coffee or something, I don't drink coffee).

The mix is nasty looking and not too hard to make (only made a small mess, haha).

Smoote this better work, .... just kidding, it was fun to mix all that stuff together. I'm sure it will be great.

Thanks for divulging some of your secrets jig. We have a very open and rather balanced relationship as it is but certain things are still a struggle. I totally hear you on the worst first year ever. We sit down and air out our feelings every so often and our petty open but i usually end up dominating the situation. The change in dynamic you mentioned seems like a good compromise. We will have to give it a shot. I think she's been wanting to try it anyway.

Whoa that is a lot of protein mix. That molasses looks perfect, the picture made me laugh, make sure there is ammonium sulfate in it. You won't regret the extra ingredients and will see an immediate increase in co2 production. The maintenance will be a lot easier as well with my tips. When you made your first reactor you said that you heard a slight hiss when you opened the bottle after a duration of time, this time it will be more like a whoosh.

As for the aquariums i am linking a few pictures, one is my 20 gallon, one is my 10 gallon, the third is the tank that inspired me to really push my designs to fruition, the last is just one that i like of one of my mollies.

Salt waters fun but the work, money and equipment that it takes just out weigh the aesthetic value for me, so thats why i went for freshwater. I can't say how or when i became interested in the hobby but after seeing that third aquarium design i really fell head over heals for the hobby.

In the 20 gallon the moss or "trees" on the right and mixed in with the rocks on the left have grown quite a bit since this picture, so it doesn't do it justice.

The 10 gallon is the one where everything that i had learned just clicked and i really got my shit together. With the 20 i felt like Sisyphus but with the 10 i felt as if i had been in the hobby for 20 years.

The fourth photo's just for fun, i really love my gold dust mollies.

Hope you enjoy.

Edit: saw the pic of your reactor looks good. It brought back so many memories, i can give you some info on a dirt cheap mechanical set-up when you're interested.

I love the needle valve, good idea to add in some control. Remember though that the yeast are constantly creating co2 so as you limit its flow that the container will begin to pressurize. This means watch how much to limit, and NEVER NEVER NEVER close off the out put fully, the bottle will explode and that nasty mess will be everywhere. Not first hand experience but read about it a few times.

what's up greenpheonix, ontheDL... glad to see you pop in. I was trying to get quantum high last night after the inspiration... I just passed out.

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Oh no! ... What were you toking on? ... Maybe you need to invest in some Kali Mist or some form of Haze lol

LOL nice jig. Relationship advice. Shit had me rolling man. Its true tho u really do need to pay particular attention to this subject when growing when there is a significant other. I figured an equal balance to the equation is kinda like just giving them the same amount of attention. As well as when moneys spent make sure u remember to spread the love cause wifey will get butthurt.
Smoote man nice aquarium. Im a saltwater guy myself. Im gonna have to hit ur journal man.
Cool thread bro nice.

check mine out. 100 gallon that I have wanted to swap to reef, but just haven't done it. No live plants, but now that I have some skillz, I may add plants or go salt.

onthedl0008 said:

Smoote man nice aquarium. Im a saltwater guy myself. Im gonna have to hit ur journal man.
Cool thread bro nice.

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Thanks for the love. Salt water is a lot of fun, i mean the live rock and corals are so beautiful. Just not my kind of beauty. Though if i hadn't started growing i probably would have ended up going saltwater.

No journal yet but one's on the way. I have a blueberry clone just about ready for my dwc's

drynroasty: nice tank, not a bad layout even though the plants are fake. Plants are lot less expensive and can be just as beautiful... little bit of endorsement. I love how you combined both of your loves in one room. Now if only i had more space in that grow room of mine ... Your parrot cichlid looks big too!

Smoote1987

drynroasty: nice tank, not a bad layout even though the plants are fake. Plants are lot less expensive and can be just as beautiful... little bit of endorsement. I love how you combined both of your loves in one room. Now if only i had more space in that grow room of mine ... Your parrot cichlid looks big too!

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I still haven't read your post entirely, but I already know that I will be using that recipe for my tank and my box, you rock. I tried live plants long ago, but the didn't live very long. Now that I know about the co2, I will surely try them again. I would much rather have live plants, but I will need info on the snail control, if you wouldn't mind. Polly not on Jig board though... hehe. Again, thanks, and I'm glad to become acquainted with another fart smeller like the many others adding to these pages.

Jigfresh, I believe you about the balance in a relationship. My girl is the total opposite of me, but I love her to death, and that's why I'm still alive... lol. Seriously, just ask her. Just kidding and didn't make me say that, I swear. So as I was saying, I will try...

Finally, she is not looking over my shoulder, nosey bitch, Goddam!!! I cannot get a fukin breath.

Anyhow,

GreenphoeniX said:

Oh no! ... What were you toking on? ... Maybe you need to invest in some Kali Mist or some form of Haze lol

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When i go to the store I usually ask for the heaviest indicas they have. Right now I am smoking Jasmine x Romulan, Cheese, and Chocolate Nepal... the choc. stuff is crazy, seriously smells like chocolate.

I usually like to mix it up with a sativa, but becuase of the grow, I've had to buy small orders.

It would be great if after harvest I could trade someone with a nice sativa, otherwise I'll be taking naps til the next harvest.

Glad the rest of you are all getting along. And glad you enjoy the thread DL.

Hey everyone. Today marks the end of week 4. The only things exciting to report about today is the dehumidifier doesn't do anything in the closet (it works elsewhere, I tried it). Something to try and improve next grow. I pulled some more leaves and a few tiny flowers (poor little things). I slightly angled the light in the direction of the taller growth. Sort of just aligning the planes of the reflector and the growth (not the screen, or true level). I also topped of the rez with 2 gal. 30 mL of A+B flower, 20 mL Cal-Mag, 20 mL FloraNectar, no pH adjustment needed.

Pictures taken are spread out throughout the past few pages... none of plants, just co2 stuff and dehumidifier stuff.

We have rounded the bend... Week 5 is upon us. I am not nervous like the first few weeks, but I am still wary that something will happen before everything is all done. Sometimes I feel like the pot is in jars curing, then I remember I'm more than a month away, and they are so fragile. I'm not worried about doing something stupid and killing my cats, but I do worry about doing something stupid and killing the plants. I think the scariest was putting that big dehumidifier above the plants. That is over with and I took it down with no damage, so no worries.

I made up my new co2 mix as you read (if you have been following). I don't have a meter so it's hard to tell, but it appears to be working really well, better than before (i guess, hard to tell, but I think so).

I tried the dehumidifier on the ground in front of the door to the closet, it seemed to lower the humidity from around 55 to 45, but nothing worth all that power and heat, plus I think it was heating the rez. I wouldn't want to run things like that anyways, but I thought I would try to see what happened. So yeah, robotninja, I think we are doomed to the humidity presently in our rooms (unless you have better luck).

Also, it has become more and more apparent which leaves and flowers are going to get shaded over the next few days. So here is what I was thinking... the gravity is going to go in not this rez change (in 3 days) but the next (in 11 days). By then a lot more stuff will be totally in the dark, but I don't want to be pulling stuff while the gravity is in effect. I also don't want to pull anything in the days leading up to the gravity use. It apparently stresses the hell out of the plant, and you shouldn't use it if the plant is under any stress. So I am trying to pull as much as I can now. I'm not going crazy, but I can tell what is now, and what will be soon in total shade.

Question: I have had my ppm really high most of the grow, I've had the lights really close to the plants, they are in hydro with tons of bubbles, I'm going to be using gravity... I think those are things that can make a plant finish early (not sure)... do you guys have any guess as to whether or not I might finish a few days early (I'm not talking about 2 weeks early or something)? It doesn't really matter, and I'll be checking trichs, I'm just curious.

I took some pics today, the ones with the lights out are great I think, you can actually see how many flowers there are. It's nuts. There are even a ton just below and level with the screen that are not visible from above. I tried to take pics below as well, but they don't really do it justice.

Oh, and I forgot to tell you.... when I do any kind of work with the plants now my fingers get sooooo sticky, and stinky.... it's too much. I swear there are drops of resin in there some places. I keep smelling my fingers, like ahhhhhhhhhh. My wife says it smell like pot and cat shit. I think it smells like grapefruit and fuel. All I really know is it STINKS.... I can't wait till the whole closet smell like that, some carbon will definitely be in order.... by the way, if someone is really low tolerance, could they get high just from smelling it?

Hope everyone had a good Easter.

finally got a few pics of my 1st step of my system we talked about. not the best camera, the bunny was mailed to me, by a old friend, to add to a pic or 2, to prove i didnt download others garden, to say is mine.


now, how do i take pics from my puter, to post in here?

i am too burnt out/stoned to figure this picture posting in here, will sleep on it,and get back to you.

here is the myspace page i opened up for a joke, for a friend out of country to see what i been up to.


http://www.myspace.com/467100030

jigfresh said:

We have rounded the bend... Week 5 is upon us. I am not nervous like the first few weeks, but I am still wary that something will happen before everything is all done. Sometimes I feel like the pot is in jars curing, then I remember I'm more than a month away, and they are so fragile. I'm not worried about doing something stupid and killing my cats, but I do worry about doing something stupid and killing the plants. I think the scariest was putting that big dehumidifier above the plants. That is over with and I took it down with no damage, so no worries.

I made up my new co2 mix as you read (if you have been following). I don't have a meter so it's hard to tell, but it appears to be working really well, better than before (i guess, hard to tell, but I think so).

I tried the dehumidifier on the ground in front of the door to the closet, it seemed to lower the humidity from around 55 to 45, but nothing worth all that power and heat, plus I think it was heating the rez. I wouldn't want to run things like that anyways, but I thought I would try to see what happened. So yeah, robotninja, I think we are doomed to the humidity presently in our rooms (unless you have better luck).

Also, it has become more and more apparent which leaves and flowers are going to get shaded over the next few days. So here is what I was thinking... the gravity is going to go in not this rez change (in 3 days) but the next (in 11 days). By then a lot more stuff will be totally in the dark, but I don't want to be pulling stuff while the gravity is in effect. I also don't want to pull anything in the days leading up to the gravity use. It apparently stresses the hell out of the plant, and you shouldn't use it if the plant is under any stress. So I am trying to pull as much as I can now. I'm not going crazy, but I can tell what is now, and what will be soon in total shade.

Question: I have had my ppm really high most of the grow, I've had the lights really close to the plants, they are in hydro with tons of bubbles, I'm going to be using gravity... I think those are things that can make a plant finish early (not sure)... do you guys have any guess as to whether or not I might finish a few days early (I'm not talking about 2 weeks early or something)? It doesn't really matter, and I'll be checking trichs, I'm just curious.

I took some pics today, the ones with the lights out are great I think, you can actually see how many flowers there are. It's nuts. There are even a ton just below and level with the screen that are not visible from above. I tried to take pics below as well, but they don't really do it justice.

Oh, and I forgot to tell you.... when I do any kind of work with the plants now my fingers get sooooo sticky, and stinky.... it's too much. I swear there are drops of resin in there some places. I keep smelling my fingers, like ahhhhhhhhhh. My wife says it smell like pot and cat shit. I think it smells like grapefruit and fuel. All I really know is it STINKS.... I can't wait till the whole closet smell like that, some carbon will definitely be in order.... by the way, if someone is really low tolerance, could they get high just from smelling it?

Hope everyone had a good Easter.

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Hey jig,

For the co2, put the outlet in a glass of water and you will see the co2 bubble out. Do this every so often to gauge what's coming out of the reactor. I consistently got a bubble rate of around 3 bubbles per second. With the basic mixture eventually ended up there but that was the peak and then it fell and didn't stay at 3 bps for long. You may want to think about including a bubble counter eventually.

I felt like i was on safari looking at your pictures. Sorry about the dehumidifier it was a good attempt. Hmm about the finishing early, can't say. However one thing that i have noticed with going to hydro from soil was that tremendous increase in growth rate and that the window of when to harvest is slightly more narrow. LIke it went from a week for me to 4-5 days. I think this is a consequence of the increase of growth rate. I haven't noticed an earlier finish though.

Oh man i LOOOVVVEEEE the smell of my fingers when I'm done gardening. Carbon filters going to be a must from what you described, well only if you want some degree of discretion. If not just let it go i love that smell. There's a really good carbon filter from home depot that I've been able to use with some success if you would like me to link you to it. If not there's some great DIY tutorials that work very well.

That would be nice if you could get a contact high from just smelling it... if you ever grow weed like that.... kiss-ass.... and me at your door with a blunt leafed and gutted waiting for that magical substance.

On a side note the wife absolutely loves the smell, she regularly just opens up one of our jars and just sticks her face in it for a few minutes. She always comes out with the biggest grin on her face. Oh man and if i smell like it she can barely control herself.... ... if you get my drift. So i say bathe in the shit and see what happens the next time your around your wife

Edit: Yea definitely drynroasty, not here anymore though, i think we've taken up enough space with our fish talk , thanks for letting us go jig. I transferred my blueberry clone to a dwc bucket last night so a journal is close, i'll be glad to continue talking there.

Dude, your plants are looking great. How many are there?

And I don't know what is wrong with myspace but the ad next to your pictures was for "gay thug guys"

Also... do your girls like penut butter... that's one way to fatten them up, haha.

jigfresh said:

Dude, your plants are looking great. How many are there?

And I don't know what is wrong with myspace but the ad next to your pictures was for "gay thug guys"

Also... do your girls like penut butter... that's one way to fatten them up, haha.

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Thanks, told you, i know what i am saying, when i advise you on a subject.


aint much to say about the ad, but on a side note, all the hottest ladys, are surrounded by gay men, you know!


i got 54 of them. i got paperwork for 45, but i figure, after i thin down my numbers in a few days, when i go 12/12 for 10 days, to thin males out, this will gave room for 20 to 30 more.

All I really know is it STINKS.... I can't wait till the whole closet smell like that, some carbon will definitely be in order.... by the way, if someone is really low tolerance, could they get high just from smelling it?

to bad that dont work!!

you got to remove the water molecule, if i remember right, to activate the THC, this is why you need to heat the oil,when you cook with it, or just put it in alcohol, alcohol will remove water, or, you got to put it in oil, then heat oil, to cook water out of it, then it will be psychoactive.