DIY Closet DWC Grow - First grow ever

Hulk, you get clones?

nah i need to change my oil on my truck didnt want to drive that far dam rain has been messing me up with working on my truck, i found a new place never been to right by my pad went and checked it out didnt really like it to much nugs were nice just the place was ghetto got some cowboy chronic and blueberry humbolt haze..... i just found out about the weedtracker and weedmaps ...and found a few more that are close by shit the list i was going by didnt have nearly as much as those two sites........ i did see some that said they take care of bigbear even some that will deliever to you up there that be sweet but i dont know about that deliever busniess ........i just built my self a small aero....once the clones have a little roots i will put them in there and start new clones........your still letting the clones veg ??? if so when you going to turn the lights to flower??

Hulk Nugs said:

your still letting the clones veg ??? if so when you going to turn the lights to flower??

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My plan is to use Uncle Ben's - Topping Technique to get 4 main cola's on each plant. For that I am going to wait until there are 5 nodes. They all have 2 fully developed and some have 3 fully developed. So I guess another week until they are ready to top.

I'll be cutting above the second node, so that will take the height down to maybe 5" by that point. Then I'll keep vegging them (and their four heads) until they are about 16" I think. Of course I'm going to start scroging them, so it's not really about height. I guess I want the screen filled 75% before I switch the lights. I'm guessing 4 weeks till I change?

Then 8 weeks of flower.

nice that time will fly by before you know it, you will be watching the colas get bigger and biggger and bigggger .......i just found some seeds that i had from a while ago i have saved up seeds over the years from dank bags .....threw 5 into a cup of water letting them germ and crack .....what breaks threw the seed first you know ?? is it the root or the stem? i believe its the root but its 4 am and i just waked and baked .....dam rain is making me be the timer for my rooms oh well i get to wake up and blaze a bowl and check on my girls then hopefully back to bed....... i need to look into it at night the temp gets down to 63 i bielive thats fine but want to look into it

Im not experienced however I am well read, and IE believe it is the tap root that comes through first.

Don't know about seeds. But here's a quote from Earl about temps:

Earl said:

As long as you don't freeze your plants,
you won't have any shock.

If you look at my 4 inch grow,
the highest temp during most of the grow has been around 63ºf

My room has a recording thermometer
and the daily temp range is 55º-63º

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Alright guys, some updates.

I'm not going to be able to get the 4 cola think. I guess you have to have opposing nodes, all mine are alternating. I'm still going to top though, just going to do it sooner.

I'm not using Hydrogen peroxide. It kills all the good bacteria too. I wrote to Dutch Masters and the frickin professor wrote back talking about all kinds of stuff I didn't understand. Anyhow, no H2o2.

I lowered my light 3 chain links. I'm down to 23" off the plant tops. We'll see what they think by the end of the day.

I also got delivered my supplements. DM Zone, Silica, Max G+F, Potash+. The Penetrator is back ordered, and Liquid Light is in the PO Box.

Roots are looking good and a lot longer. Plus there are many more poking through.

I put in about 1/3 the amount suggested for the supplements I got. Added 40 mL Max Grow, 10 mL Silica, 10 mL Zone.

The Zone is the root treatment stuff. It's really yellow and it kinda smells. It makes the water FIZZY. This is my first grow, and I just put the stuff in a few hours ago, but I swear I can tell the plants like it. I feel like the roots really like it. They are blowing up. I guess it could be the other stuff too.

I'm going to add 10 mL more of the Zone. That will bring me to 2/3 the recommended amount for week 1 veg.

I'll post pics later tonight.

I'm still reading your past posts, but I'm smiling for ya...

Yes, come ride, they rent and I have some gear you can use. I don't know if you'll beat me to the bottom of the hill my friend. I usually beat my bike to the bottom... then I have to dodge it as it tumbles past... lol

oh yeah, see if you can get those stones under the root mass that forms. If what happened to me happens to you, you'll see a mildly darker area in the center of the roots. Nothing drastic, but it looks as though it could be better... Rig the stone to get bubbles into THAT area.

I think the roots head for the bubbles, because the one plant by the meter, I forgot to hook back up last night, so the airstone was off to one side. That plants roots were all coming out that side with none poking through the bottom.

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The roots probably went to the wet side of the rockwool, not the airstone. THe splash of the bubbles "soaked" the path the roots took thru the wool I imagine.

It's also snowing like crazy, which is fun because a bunch of flatlanders came up for the holiday weekend and I'm going to watch them dig all day with their kids screaming how cold it is and their wives complaining they aren't going fast enough.

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I'd go buy a gas powered snow blower and send your kid (or the neighbors) to the rentals and charge $20 bucks. Pimp those little fuckers...

but i dont know about that deliever busniess ........i

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I'm a little hesitant also. ~Knock, Knock, KNOCK!~ "who is it?" ~JigFresh, this is Sargeant Stadinko, would you be so kind as to open the door and put these handcuffs on and tell us how you know Partick Dahmer (the delivery guy who also happens to be Jeffery Dahmers love child, who now has your address. and loves the taste of whatever herb he's been delivering you...) A little far fetched, but I'm am too.

and my final 2 cents (didn't there used to be a cents key on a typewriter???): Keep a log

pics tomorrow

The plants have Blown Up. For once, I can finally tell a difference. I opened the door today and they were reaching up at me, (more light daddy, more food). Since the girls are so happy I lowered the light another 2 links. I am also going to give them some more nutes today. Not too much. The DM Website suggest 800 ppm for the first week. I'm at 400 and thinking of going up to 600 or so.

drynroasty said:

keep a log

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you're starting to sound like Al B. talking about you killing yourself with your heater ducting. I was in school longer than you have been, I know how to pay attention. I got a log, make entries 5-6 times a day. I write down everything except opening the door and misting them. Plus I got so many pictures, it's sick. But really, I do appreciate the help, and pretty much do whatever you suggest right away. Keep it coming.

Speaking of advice, can you tell me about topping. What I mean is: I am going to top some if not all of my plants, do you think I should let one or two grow natural to see the difference, or is there no point? I don't know if, with the screen, topping is pretty much always a good idea. (not like there is right or wrong)

It is really nuts to see these plants/ roots growing so quickly. I mean I've been reading for a couple months about how much they grow, but to see it with my own eyes is just crazy. I swear you can practically see them growing just looking at them.

Seriously technology is just nuts. Amazing.

The 2 roots pics are taken 10 hours apart. Can anyone tell a difference?

Survolte said:

Im not experienced however I am well read, and IE believe it is the tap root that comes through first.

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I think everyone reading this post is a first timer, or close. We totally welcome whatever knowledge you have or think you have, however attained. There is way to much stuff out there for one of us to read, so between the few of us we have much more covered. I want everyone's suggestions, and if it's crap I won't use it. So no worries. I'm not going to blame anyone when something goes wrong.

But I am handing out free joints to everyone who helps .

Also, congrats to RIU. I noticed a new sponsor in the past couple days, GotVape or something. Good stuff, we'll be able to keep uploading pics onto riu's server space.

wow I'm impressed,
your first grow+++++++++++ mad rep
Good to see some people actully do there "homework" before they get going

good luck- can't wait to see your jungle in a couple of months

scooby snacks said:

wow I'm impressed,
your first grow+++++++++++ mad rep
Good to see some people actully do there "homework" before they get going

good luck- can't wait to see your jungle in a couple of months

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Thank you. That means a lot.

Apparently when I was a kid I didn't walk until after everyone else, but when I did I never fell down. I guess I've always liked doing things right.

Lesson to the youngsters out there: Time spent in preparation saves 10x's the time spent later trying to fix things you should have before you started. I know you "really" want to get going, but just smoke, chill and wait a little bit. It will be so much more worth it. It's like all that stuff Yoda was talking about (except the darth vader part). Ready you must be, umm, for plants to grow (supposed to sound like yoda).

RollItUp.org helped a lot too.

More deliveries and more plant life. UPS came on schedule with the RO filter. I also was able to drive the little car to town to get my Liquid Light (DM foliar super stuff). The plants are taking off. They look great. Oh, and my roots have roots (see pic below).

I added another 60 mL+ 60 mL of DM Adv. Grow A+B. 10 mL Silica, 40 mL of Max Grow. That brought the ppm to 590. If the plants still look alright by tomorrow I may pump things up to 800.

Right before the girls went to bed (12mid-4am) I cut one of them. Plant #1 was a good half-inch, or inch taller than any other plant, skinnier too, so I cut her above the second node. I am going to cut at least 2 more of them, and maybe all, what do you guys think?

I also made a cheap ass reflector thing to keep all the light down on the plants. Pretty fancy, huh.

That's Lewis sticking his tongue out at you.

Today wasn't too exciting. The plants have gotten bigger, fuller. The plant I cut last night didn't look like it grew much until the afternoon, but it is going now. Roots on all look more and longer.

I bit the bullet and sprayed my DM Liquid Light on the girls. I used the recommended strength. Only after I sprayed them did I think about starting out with a lesser amount. I say bit the bullet because if you read and believe some of the things people have said on this site about the stuff you would think it would kill my plants. Also some others said it worked great, but without the penetrator it would mess thing up big time. I just sprayed and believed.

I sprayed at 3pm. It is 9:15 and the girls look to have a better color. They already looked good, but the green is more fuller, kinda darker. I feel like the leaves are 'reaching up' more. Not stretching, but perky.

Oh, and I set up the RO filter. I am running the initial setup.

whoa...nice roots

The plants are looking great. Bigger roots, more leaves, everything is bigger. And the color is just perfect. I feel like that liquid light really worked. I can't wait to mix it with the penetrator (sounds so dirty).

I added more nutes. It was down at 550 ppm. I added 60 +60 mL of Grow A+B. 38 mL Max Grow, 10 mL Silica, 5 mL Zone. I ended up adjusting it with 200 mL of the 10% pH down I mixed up.

Since plant #1 handled being cut so well, I went ahead and cut another one. This time it was #5. She got topped above her third node. She was the tallest by 1/2" - 1". Now all are pretty much the same height. I know the point of topping isn't to get different clones exactly the same height, but I figure the ones that are outgrowing the others could stand to be a bit more bushy. If I end up topping them all, should I top the two 'tall ones' twice?

I also installed the RO filter and flushed it. Man that water sure does taste like nothing. I taste my tap (160ppm) and it tastes like 'water', then the RO and it tastes like 'water flavored with nothing'. I guess that's the point, but it's just kinda weird.

Is is me or does anyone else HATE the grass 2 green ad? The one that says 'get paid to stay at home and smoke' and has a picture of a white guy with messy hair, a little beard thing and stupid goggles. Is that what they think pot smokers look like? I guess there are some that do, but how many of those idiots grow pot, and would be on this site. I'm not saying they are on the wrong website, but I bet that guy makes a lot of other people here laugh too.

I take tons of pictures. If anyone wants to see more of something let me know (and no you can't see any more of my body).